But is art made of these things being murdered and raped because they are opposing sports teams?
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bintananth
behind a desk
I'm sure you could find some if you went looking for it. Sports fans can be horrible people when it comes to rooting for "their" team.
Fr'ex: In 1994 Andrés Escobar was murdered by gunmen 10 days after he scored an own goal during the World Cup.
Not when you've seen the things I've seen at these games. This aspect of it just keeps conveniently getting ignored.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
Why would changing the mascot fix any of that though?
Well, yeah. This is all based on the mascots, after all.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
If they're really acting that hateful towards Native Americans though, I don't think it would just go away simply because the team's mascot is different. Getting rid of bigotry is not that simple.
It gets rid of an excuse.
They would just use the new mascot.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
And gives them another one in the form of their beloved team's mascot being changed to appease offended Native Americans. So really, I don't see how the situation has changed at all for you.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
They wouldn't be doing it to a representation of a Native then, would they?
Go back and read through the thread.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
Actually, that's exactly what I'm suggesting they'd be doing.
So why would I have a problem with it?
Terthna
Professional Lurker
Because that's your whole reasoning as to why the team shouldn't use a representation of a Native American as their mascot?
Terthna
Professional Lurker
And my contention is that they'd still be doing that, just for a slightly different reason; with the intention of targeting actual Native Americans, instead of just the sports team using their image.
hyperspacewizard
Well-known member
The guy more than likely doesnt hate Native Americans or hold any kind of plans to do violence to them. Context is important its a crazy fan having fun is it in bad taste maybe but the guy isnt bad for doing it. I could just as easily see them doing it to viking or spartan head are the Scandinavians and Greeks supposed to get up in arms about that if or when it happens?
Plus that a fan of an opposing team why punish the fans of the orginal mascot for what someone else did.
Thoughtlessness doesn't really make it any better, you know. And so what if you think other people are cool with it? Why are you using such an obvious logical fallacy as the basis for your argument? Is it because you can't actually address any of the things I've brought up?
hyperspacewizard
Well-known member
What exactly do you think is wrong Im having a hard time even grasping it. Because literally everyone else in the conversation seems to think its free speech issue why reading back on your previous post you think its something else.
It looks like to me you somehow think its slander and that because the team name is Indians all native american tribes would have to give permission for it to be okay. Then you started talking about how bad the fans of other teams are.
Did I get all of your issues right am I correct in what your arguments are?