Is Taiwan getting invaded worth world war 3
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Dollars don't shoot.
Military power isn't directly measurable in money. It depends very much on how it's spent.
ah, but the things that dollars buy and maintain do shoot don't they? A powerful military is not feasible without the cash to back it up and maintain it.
Well, it does make a huge difference whether your military spending is optimized towards getting the most bang for the buck... or towards getting the most profit for the suppliers.
Which the pentagon is known for.....not. The pentagon is known for being one of the worst managers of the budgets given to them. 2019 saw $40 billion or so unused or poorly invested. 2020 data is probably going to be released by July this year.
Can you prove the Chinese are better by a wide enough margin to actually matter?
As hominem much? Shifting goalposts?
Anyways, the Chinese budget is $196 billion and according to when I was in China for RAND, around 90% to 95% of their budget was being used properly with the rest being funneled unsuccessful. The IMF and World Bank groups supported the assertion of the CSIS that the Chinese efficiency ratio as per their budget.
Now if you actually believe that the Chinese military is a small enough threat to not even matter then the foreboding argument or debate would be useless. Our interviews in America showed this to me in amplitude. Nonetheless, I will dig up the pentagon papers and UK government papers for the Chinese military and post it here, preferably by day after tomorrow.
It does make sense that projecting force so far away from our home waters is disproportionately expensive versus projecting force over their own home.
The Chinese don't necessarily need to be better in order to be a threat, especially in their own home waters where they can stack numerically superior land-based aircraft strikes against the limited air wing of our carriers.
The Chinese don't necessarily need to be better in order to be a threat, especially in their own home waters where they can stack numerically superior land-based aircraft strikes against the limited air wing of our carriers.
If you find people asking you to substantiate a claim as insulting and dishonest, your not going to last very long on the internet.
Conversations drift and people ask questions. Maybe this isn't up to the strict and superior standards of the BLAND Corporation but alas, we lowly peasants on the anonymous internet often fall short of God's perfection.
Truly I am the very depiction of god's perfection. 😃😉
If you find people asking you to substantiate a claim as insulting and dishonest, your not going to last very long on the internet.
Conversations drift and people ask questions. Maybe this isn't up to the strict and superior standards of the BLAND Corporation but alas, we lowly peasants on the anonymous internet often fall short of God's perfection.
I just reading The currency war vol5 by Song Hongbing - he is writing mainly about Middle East,but he belive that USA would fall about 2040 thanks to spending too much of its budget on paying debts.
And since he is important member of chineese financial elites,China leaders probably belive that USA after 2040 would be no issue no matter what democrats would do - so,they would wait till then.
China is strange place when politicians really thing about next generations,so they could do that.
And since he is important member of chineese financial elites,China leaders probably belive that USA after 2040 would be no issue no matter what democrats would do - so,they would wait till then.
China is strange place when politicians really thing about next generations,so they could do that.
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ShieldWife
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Yeah, honestly, if China is just patient, they could wait until the USA becomes too bankrupt and dysfunctional to really project our power around the world, must less fight China in their own back yard.
Airedale260
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Song isn’t actually considered credible in the West. His stuff is a combination of conspiracy theories and wishful thinking on the part of the Chinese.
Anyway, as far as Taiwan goes, any president refusing to take action would get absolutely crucified in the press. Not to mention, as has been repeatedly pointed out, it completely shits away any U.S. credibility on defense obligations. Not to mention that we have several close allies in the region who are going to be very
But more to the point, it doesn’t gain them anything except additional ire. The U.S. would absolutely take the opportunity to wreck the PLAN, and they can and will, alongside Korea and Japan, who have their own reasons to fear a China determined to invade Taiwan.
LindyAF
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West doesn't "consider credible" someone who predicts it will collapse, imagine my shock.
A random Chinese nobody publishing a book that *incidentally* mentions a belief that the US will economically collapse for absurd reasons does not constitute credible evidence.
The fact that he claims the U.S. Federal Reserve doesn't really exist and is only a cover for a secret clique of private banks controlled by the Rothschilds. . . is clearly delusional.
LindyAF
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I don't know Song Hongbing and haven't read him. If he is a Chinese nobody, who the Chinese don't take seriously, than sure. If he's someone they do take seriously, then sure it isn't exactly evidence, but it's at least a perspective I don't think should be immediately dismissed.
He is not random nobody in China,and he wrote volumes 1 and 2 of his book about past of western economy which lead to situation when Fed must lead to USA downfall.
Not for absurd reason,but every state in which 50% of budget must be payed for paing percents of national debt must fall.
Not national debt itself - it become larger every year.
And Fed is actually not USA state agency,but group of private banks,some of them belongs to Rotschilds.Others to Morgans,but it is less then 20 families who rules USA using Fed.
Airedale260
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Ninja’d
Yeah, that’s nice that he wrote a multipart story that’s a masturbatory fantasy for the CCP (which is probably why he got it published) but that doesn’t make it any more accurate than The Little Red Book.
The rest is so much conspiratorial bullshit that I can smell it coming off my screen...
Edit because this is getting off topic, but I want some serious, academic-level citations for all of these claims.
As far as Taiwan goes, like I said earlier, no, the Chinese will not risk World War III unless they feel to do otherwise is national suicide.