Fleiur
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I see. Can't we do both at the same time?
Why Men and Women Should Stop Hooking Up.
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LifeisTiresome
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The majority is what affects society.
Sure. But we are talking about societal problems here. No, grit you teeth and work hard by an individual will fix this.
And frankly, Ship. I'm not going to further reply to you beyond this. Take it as victory if you want. I don't wish to bother getting into an argument match. We are never convincing or making each other see the others pov here.
Your replying is you keep saying that divorce and love over and over again. You are doing nothing but preaching to a choir. Society is the issue, culture is the issue. Telling it to people on here is of no relevance.
Not all is of no consequence. They still ascribe to the system, taking advantage of what feminists do and doing nothing against what feminists do. Feminists pushing for boys to be destroyed in education for example. Women don't do much of anything aka they support what feminism does.
Shipmaster Sane
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This is patently wrong, on many different levels.
Enough hard work and enough teeth gritting from enough individuals would fix it.
What you chose and chose not to respond to is your business, if I see something I want to respond to, I'm going to. If you respond to me or refer to something I said, I'm also going to respond.
Yes, it's just that one deserves the extra effort spent while the others goals don't due to a lack of guarantee in achievement.
LifeisTiresome
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Agreed. The issue that plagues @Fleiur is a cultural and social issue. Trying to fix this when every instituition and culture is a product of the Left? Good luck.
Laws are easier to try and fix. Though I don't think fixing the laws would improve marriage rates at any rate. That is a culture issue.
Fleiur
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Of course. I am not denying that. People have also free will and can think in spite of what the pop culture, mainstream medias, celebrities, social medias are saying and/or endorsing. I am encouraging people to save themselves for marriage and to stop hooking up. Members and lurkers can read this and you'll never know, it might change their mind if they are planning to hook up and give in. So I don't think it is for nothing.
Groaning about how unfair or bad things are is easy, but you're never going to build up anything without a positive end in mind. Otherwise, you're just am aimless nihilist.
That is not true. There are a lot of men and women who fight against abortion nowadays. Like I said, it takes two to tango so, it's not only the job of the woman. Feminism should be rejected by both men and women.
Fleiur
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Political change isn't easy, but, as the Left has proven, time and time again, it goes hand in hand with culture. So, we cannot retreat there.
Fleiur
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Having partners before marriage is a recipe for jealousy and conflict later on.
Waiting until marriage is good and satisfying because you get to discover sex together and discover how to have great sex together. There's no comparison between current and previous partners.
The more you treat sex like a bodily need, the more difficult it is to turn it into something more with someone you love.
I had my first sexual experiences with my first long-term partner. We were together for almost seven years. And the sex wasn't that great then, to put it in polite terms, and it's even worse when I look back at it now. Your, let's say, romantic idea of discovering sex together completely forgets that people have different sex drives, needs and different kinks that they want to have satisfied to live happily. So imagine I married my first long-term relation - boy would I be miserable today.
Making sex dependant on the institution of marriage in this day and age will only have one result, that being to make marriage even more of a disposable commodity than it already is.
Making sex dependant on the institution of marriage in this day and age will only have one result, that being to make marriage even more of a disposable commodity than it already is.
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Insert "Kinks are for sinners! Kinks are non christian!"
I think this is a major thing people need to focus on. Sexual life does make a relationship. You may get lucky and find the person you forst have sex with should they be your wife. Is perfect. You may end up same as above and find it...lackluster. perhaps they found it worse, or they loved it. Sex is a mutual thing, or at least it should be.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Some take it well but others don't?
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Fleiur
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It's not romantic. It's backed up by studies:
Frequently Asked Questions About Sexual Health
WebMD answers common questions about circumcision, male menopause, birth control, and more.
www.webmd.com
Basically.
Ome can't make blanket statements about everyone though....It's not romantic. It's backed up by studies:
Frequently Asked Questions About Sexual Health
WebMD answers common questions about circumcision, male menopause, birth control, and more.
Fleiur
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But it is a general rule based on evidence.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
If there's ever a doomer post to start with it would be trying to do what's socially conforming and get a shitty relationship and the one who had sex before marriage did it better.
Doesn't always happen but some people probably did.
Guncannon
Pessimistic Pilot
I won't comment on marriage as an institution other than it's more prone to change/combine with the domestic partnership rather than decline into obscurity. Too many legal strings attached to it; even if the traditional marriage disappears, you can bet the domestic partnership will have changes made to it.
As for the hooking up: While hook up culture is toxic in nature, I don't think people should wait until marriage to have sex. Sex helps strengthen the bond between two people who are romantic companions. You can't stop teenagers and young adults from hooking up, and the attempted suppression yields worse results for everybody. Better to promote safe sex than let people who know nothing knock each other up. The more experience you have with intimacy, the better and more open you'll be with your partner IMO. Still, it's better to hold off on sex in a relationship and get to know one another more before diving into it, and you don't need to be married to do that.
Also an online study of 2000 people from Brigham? Color me skeptical in their sample size.
As for the hooking up: While hook up culture is toxic in nature, I don't think people should wait until marriage to have sex. Sex helps strengthen the bond between two people who are romantic companions. You can't stop teenagers and young adults from hooking up, and the attempted suppression yields worse results for everybody. Better to promote safe sex than let people who know nothing knock each other up. The more experience you have with intimacy, the better and more open you'll be with your partner IMO. Still, it's better to hold off on sex in a relationship and get to know one another more before diving into it, and you don't need to be married to do that.
Also an online study of 2000 people from Brigham? Color me skeptical in their sample size.
ShieldWife
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I'm involved with my local conservative home schooling community and to see the families there is a huge white pill. There are stable marriages with wives who reject feminism, they frequently have 5 or more kids, and they home school their children to pass along their values instead of sending them to public school. Of course, these people are a minority at the moment, but with the average family having over 5 kids and some having 10 or more, they are rapidly growing and their tendency to avoid mainstream leftist culture protects them from it's corrupting influence. I think that this movement may be the future of Western civilization.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
I find school experiences to be interesting. The more wild ones describe sex in the school so there's teen pregnancy.
Shipmaster Sane
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Life is about more than fun.