Floridaman
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More than that, if the election is regarded as a sham by half the country, you don't have a country period you have a civil war.
Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)
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And a civil war that would bring end to the world economy
Floridaman
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If not the world itself, since there hasn't really been a civil war in a nuclear power.
It would bring end to the world should they try to intervene. The military would split, with the grunts choosing one side and the rest splitting up heavily
I wouldn't say you necessarily get civil war, a country can endure a surprising amount of sham elections if it remains stable enough economically. Now, if the economy goes to shit on the other hand then things get interesting.
Floridaman
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Those only hold true in countries where the people have no expectation of their vote counting, that isn't the case in the US. Also regarding the economy, have you looked outside.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
‘F*cking Torn Apart Again In 2022’ — Virginia Democrat Allegedly Lights Up Caucus Call On Election Performance
Democrats in the House of Representatives reportedly voiced their concerns about the future of the party with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi on Thursday.
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They're hurting.
‘F*cking Torn Apart Again In 2022’ — Virginia Democrat Allegedly Lights Up Caucus Call On Election Performance
Democrats in the House of Representatives reportedly voiced their concerns about the future of the party with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi on Thursday.
They're hurting.
If Biden wins the Dems eat themselves alive. If trump wins they STILL eat themselves alive
Was talking to my parents who are old style republicans who don't like trump because he can be a dick, which is "unpresidential". I was having a hard time convincing them that some fishy shit was going on and that I should just be "graceful in defeat"(sound familiar?
). Anyway I finally started to get through to them when I pointed out that Biden was pulling in more votes than Obama in 2008 in some areas.
). Anyway I finally started to get through to them when I pointed out that Biden was pulling in more votes than Obama in 2008 in some areas.
Floridaman
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‘F*cking Torn Apart Again In 2022’ — Virginia Democrat Allegedly Lights Up Caucus Call On Election Performance
Democrats in the House of Representatives reportedly voiced their concerns about the future of the party with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi on Thursday.
They're hurting.
As I said this is literally the worst case. With the election being as it is, the presidential race is gonna be considered a joke regardless of what happens. Congress is split, and can't do anything even if it wanted to. The bureaucracy has destroyed any feeling of good will people had in it, so no one will obey them either. The military which is the only part the populace has any trust in does not want to intervene, and the economy is dangling on a cliff.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Nobody got what they wanted. They both won something but it was not the total victory they wanted.
I've lived in a very blue area, that sometimes seems purple, and in a hard-D family my whole life.
I know the Dems, I know how they operate, I know their rhetoric, I know their motivations, and I know how blind (willfully or not) many of them are to so many things.
I am an ex-Dem who donated a lot to Trump, I know what awaits me if Trump loses, and a red Senate/redder House and conservative SCOTUS won't be enough to stop it with the Covid lockdowns/mandates already overriding many Constitutional rights/barriers to tyranny.
Those are good analogies, but I'd also point to the 1st Marines on Guadalcanal or the Taffies at Samar.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
The Republicans do appear to finally respond. Graham is going to help fund the legal defense.
I'm aware the lockdowns and Corona have a put a dent in the economy. The thing is, for it to get to the point where civil war becomes an actual thing you need a lot more then just a dent in the economy. For perspective, prior to Syria going up in flames it's economy had one of it's central pillars in agriculture get nuked by long running droughts to the point it went from making up 27% of the economy and a quarter of the workforce to 17% of the economy a few years later and pushed a lot of unemployed families into the cities while the costs of basic necessities like food went up because it went from exporting wheat to importing it. The US isn't near that point yet as far as I can tell.
Now if for some reason after winning Biden mandates a nationwide multi month lockdown or something equally stupid and blows up the economy as a result then you can start worrying.
Floridaman
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Uh at this point 40% of small businesses which actually employ the majority of people in the country are not coming back. Also they are already talking a second lock down, and Biden promised a 3 month national lock down. And Europe has just entered another.
The former can be papered over long enough to keep going with sufficient spending in the form of handouts and the like (at least so long as you can get congress to actually agree to pass a stimulus bill...). Far from ideal but survivable if handled properly. The latter on the other hand is where you can start being concerned. With that said, politicians and breaking promises go hand in hand. Particularly politicians who lack the support of both the judicial and legislative branches of their own government.
Floridaman
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As someone in finance, no, no it can't the stimulus bill or loan for businesses was no where near sufficient, especially since said loan was to go to paying employees. Meaning there was nothing left for overhead. Not helped when you had people damaging the property for several months.
KilroywasNOTHere
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So what do you think is likely to happen? Think we can make it through this or do you think most of us won't live to see the end of the decade?
He went from flapping in the direction the wind is blowing, Lindsey Graham...to Punished Lindsey. I'm so proud. Trump must have given him a Spine for Christmas or something. Maybe some balls.
@7 Gold Eye Heals the Wise. Do you still have that meme of Punished Lindsey? I must have it.
Floridaman
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Oh people will live, the end assuredly isn't nigh. Remember people survive North Korea as well. The thing is the comfort people have grown accustomed to in the post war era is hanging by a thread.