Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
It's a yes and no. Staff were getting layed off but there's higher staff members who'd resign from memory to presumably go somewhere else.
Who else dreads this year?
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Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
So I found some entertainment media that's focused on politics. Anyone watched Our Cartoon President?
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Nope, but I’m pretty sure if we complain about that we’d be called hypocrites or just as bad as SJWs
Also, let me guess, it portrays the Democrats or their candidates like AOC as being rather infalliable and noble beings without any idiocy?
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Saw bits of it and they make fun of both sides although it depends on a person's bias.
They don't hold back at the democrat debates.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Link?
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
LifeisTiresome
Well-known member
Well its a bit more complicated then that. The question is, what do we mean when we say right wing. What do I mean? The right wing of the US years ago was basically Evangelical christians. But the right wing of now is a hodgepodge of different groups, some of whom like republicans and some are just voting republican cause Trump while others are only doing it cause of the craziness of the left which overlaps with those who vote for the republican despite hating the republicans who they call cuckservatives.
Now I bring this up as well as quote the @The Name of Love cause many or some of those current right wing aren't Christians or Traditionalists and even hold it in contempt but they hold values like "Repeal the 19th" aka take women's rights away.
They hate the modern world as it is right now and how it in their mind(I'm not saying it doesn't) demonizes them while demanding things of them. This is an example of your point @The Name of Love .
This article: Broke men are hurting American women’s marriage prospects
On youtube, we have youtubers make videos on it and comments are saying take women's rights away cause in their opinion. Everything wrong with the world is cause of women and their empowerment aka feminism.
The left create articles like this while at the same time demonizing men for the wage gap even though men are basically failing and women are rising but women want to marry rich men who are shrinking cause to rise women up, men are being made to fail is some of their arguments by the people in the youtube comments.
What do you guys think?
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CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
I’m pretty sure as far as many SJW types are concerned they’re all that combined with much worse still
A Left-Right Dichotomy which denies or would refute how there are black guys who wear MAGA Hats exist and are accepted by their white counterparts sorta worsens things
Hollywood’s used to a set of stuff or cliche’s that are easy to bash and decide to lump in with anybody they consider “Right Wing” even before I guess
Darmani
Well-known member
I...Damn not sure how to take this.
If so old how find your way to this spinoff fanforum.
Moreover do you not see why Trump scares the younger gen and those who ARE prone to oppose neocons? As an example the infamous "trans support group suicide" tweet. Progress was being made a little at a time at personal cost...and then Trump ran on a platform playing to racial politics and promising to turn back the clock and highlight illegal immigration (always a racial issue, we don't care about the passing expired visa college students; its always the idea of border crossing eroding economic sturdiness and social tradition)
I don't even agree with all of it. But calling these guys the same as 'swearing hippies' ... well maybe but I'd have to understand why call those 60s guys that and what you call and say motivates these guys.
The Name of Love
Far Right Nutjob
The idea that the Right was only Evangelicals implausible. It would be like saying the Left is only Marxists. While Marxist are a part of the Left, they aren’t the whole story. Party politics is necessarily a matter of coalition-building. Coalitions are necessarily made up of different factions that want different (and sometimes contradictory) things, but vote together.
The Right has, for the past few decades, been made up of Christian “Moral Majority” types, Beltway Libertarians, and foreign policy and crime hawks for the past few decades. Racially and economically, the party is made up of white middle class people and rural America as its base, with its leadership being made up of mainly wealthy Jewish (and a few non-Jewish white) Neocons.
The Left has been made up of a lot more people. Old-fashioned workers’ rights types, Progressive “SJW” types, Marxists and Neo-Marxists of varying stripes, Clintonian Neoliberals, feminists, non-white racial identitarians (of Jewish, Black, and Hispanic flavors), Muslims, LGBT activists, Social Gospel-type Christians, and Atheist activists. As you can imagine, this is a very - ahem - diverse coalition compared to the Right’s, which is why the Left wing is so self-contradictory at times. I have no doubt that once immigrant demographics makes right-wingers a marginal electoral threat, you can expect this coalition to just tear itself apart. Speaking of demographics, the Left pretty much owns all non-whites, who will apparently vote for them no matter what, as well as the commanding heights of wealth and influence of all races. And of course, poor people who are dependent on government handouts also vote Left. Interestingly enough, the same kinds of people who run the Republicans also run the Dems: Jews and non-Jewish whites. This is probably because of money, as Jews and Whites have the highest average salaries and tend to be the best educated.
What has happened in the past decade is that the Dems have started moving away from working class politics and towards concerns about “diversity,” a policy that’s very, very good for business. Meanwhile, non-college educated white working-class men have made a shift to voting right-wing since Trump, possibly because they are attracted to Trump’s anti-war and nationalistic rhetoric. These events are causing a huge upset, a realignment that happens only once a generation. What will come of it, I don’t quite know.
What I do know is that as the Left becomes more diverse, they are going to ratchet up the anti-white, anti-male, anti-heteronormative rhetoric that will drive disenfranchised white men into the arms of the right. The Republicans won’t know what to do with them because they will be pressured to pander to non-whites too, so they’ll be pushed into the reactionary dissident right-wing. That’s where things will get interesting. What I’m hoping is that, by that point, the far right will have decent leaders that will channel all that energy and anger into positive community-building.
The Right has, for the past few decades, been made up of Christian “Moral Majority” types, Beltway Libertarians, and foreign policy and crime hawks for the past few decades. Racially and economically, the party is made up of white middle class people and rural America as its base, with its leadership being made up of mainly wealthy Jewish (and a few non-Jewish white) Neocons.
The Left has been made up of a lot more people. Old-fashioned workers’ rights types, Progressive “SJW” types, Marxists and Neo-Marxists of varying stripes, Clintonian Neoliberals, feminists, non-white racial identitarians (of Jewish, Black, and Hispanic flavors), Muslims, LGBT activists, Social Gospel-type Christians, and Atheist activists. As you can imagine, this is a very - ahem - diverse coalition compared to the Right’s, which is why the Left wing is so self-contradictory at times. I have no doubt that once immigrant demographics makes right-wingers a marginal electoral threat, you can expect this coalition to just tear itself apart. Speaking of demographics, the Left pretty much owns all non-whites, who will apparently vote for them no matter what, as well as the commanding heights of wealth and influence of all races. And of course, poor people who are dependent on government handouts also vote Left. Interestingly enough, the same kinds of people who run the Republicans also run the Dems: Jews and non-Jewish whites. This is probably because of money, as Jews and Whites have the highest average salaries and tend to be the best educated.
What has happened in the past decade is that the Dems have started moving away from working class politics and towards concerns about “diversity,” a policy that’s very, very good for business. Meanwhile, non-college educated white working-class men have made a shift to voting right-wing since Trump, possibly because they are attracted to Trump’s anti-war and nationalistic rhetoric. These events are causing a huge upset, a realignment that happens only once a generation. What will come of it, I don’t quite know.
What I do know is that as the Left becomes more diverse, they are going to ratchet up the anti-white, anti-male, anti-heteronormative rhetoric that will drive disenfranchised white men into the arms of the right. The Republicans won’t know what to do with them because they will be pressured to pander to non-whites too, so they’ll be pushed into the reactionary dissident right-wing. That’s where things will get interesting. What I’m hoping is that, by that point, the far right will have decent leaders that will channel all that energy and anger into positive community-building.
It’s all about demographics; the elites of both parties like mass immigration because it gives them a slave wage class for the rich corporations (just read this) and the Dems especially like it because it gives them a reliable voting demographic (watch this). So bellyaching about how evil people who oppose immigration are isn’t going to cut it. These trends are actually happening, and shouting people’s concerns with cries of “racism!” while our rent-seeking elites pick our pockets isn’t going to make them go away.
Doomsought
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Its ultimately a rule of law issue, illegal immigration is human trafficking, and with the laborers come drugs and sex slaves- this is actually why we seperate children, because they might be sex slaves and we need to check every single one when they come in illegally.
But that isn't the worst case scenario, the worst case scenario is the same thing happing to the US as what happened to Mexico to create Texas.
But that isn't the worst case scenario, the worst case scenario is the same thing happing to the US as what happened to Mexico to create Texas.
The Name of Love
Far Right Nutjob
Yes. In the 1820s, Mexico invites a bunch of white American settlers to be part of Tejas. Within a few decades, Tejas - now Texas - is part of America now and there’s a huge war between Mexico and America.
Now, think about how the reverse is happening to America right now...
Darmani
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No way you're asian and support Trump WHYYYYY he's friends with Kim Jong Un AND Russian Badman j/k
But seriously how come threat of race doesn't disenchant on the right wing for blacks like me and some others as it does for the techno queer twitterati?
*sigh*
It was a company running adbots on an international platform. For a globalist outlook on a thread with MAN Non-usians spreading their opinions and hot takes this insistence Facebook and twitter users got exposed to Russian generated adds and bot content so conspiracy always bothered me. Post Mueller its just petty and low. The jokes old at the least.
The US is NOT in threat of seceding territory to Mexico none of the immigrants, even illegal, want that.
BUT I will concede that they are exploited, extremely. The problem is they are the most punished both ways, by the exploiters, and then the law. I mean Tyson just got found out ... we con't unjuntion, break them up or significantly punish the people funding the immigration violation and making it viable AND attractive.
This is how it becomes/is a race issue. It mostly starts when its felt welfare is overtaxed and people do a survery of the demographics of who is on it. Or the local area the language and skin hues seem to change.
So there is prejudice attached to the issue, foundationally, doesn't make it not an issue and we police it terribly
The Name of Love
Far Right Nutjob
Really? None of them? I constantly see Mexican immigrants waving Mexican flags and shouting about how terrible America is. Sure, we won't secede territory to Mexico, but this will cause instability.
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Darmani
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Instability is the natural state of things. And being a citizen or having a love of home country isn't a sign of treachery. Even if that WAS the intent
its PERFECTLY LEGAL (like burning the US flag or mocking our president.. alot)
If they are waving the Mexican flag ask WHY what is their context and why does it matter?
And i case you think I'm just defending them because I agree I had a similar argument post June around July 4th, many were mocking fairweather "gay allies" putting out the same product with pride flag labels now that its hip and profitable. Some pointed out, yes, its a ploy but SO IS EVERYHTUING from corporations (this seems to the develping rational for dialing back the asshole identarianism, it can get hijacked by the insincere) but this same personobjected something the older American flag design
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Hmmm
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The Name of Love
Far Right Nutjob
Why do we want people who hate us to come to our country? That's all I'm asking. Is that "bigoted"?
Doomsought
Well-known member
Because to have a functional society, you need to have a people unified by a national myth. The people waving around Mexican flags are not us, and do not want to become part of us, they just want our wealth.
That is almost the entirety of the difference: Half the hoops that legal immigrants have to go through are a ritual to prove that they want to be part of us, that they want to become Americans.
Darmani
Well-known member
You can love your heritage AND our country. I want people coming to do both AND set time to celebrate it. Similar to those africa signals and so on.
If
IF
they feel divided, isolated from their nation I want them accepted and embraced. I know for some asian americans they've been held and felt like they are the country of their great grandparents origin and not america And THEY hold strong traditions and symbology
that make them enemies?
I am not saying there aren't critics and assholes. But for me America isn't perfect or the best because their is nothing else but because we are rich enough to allow differences to grow and make it as equally america as where others come from.
That said
I STILL oppose illegal immigration and the industry that encourages it to the detriment of our lower and working class.
These Mexicans don't, they state quite clearly they hate the USA and want to the place they live in to be mexican territory.
That makes them very suspect.
LifeisTiresome
Well-known member
An example of the framing by the left.
A swedish scientist advocates for cannibalism cause of climate change. He called the taboo against it conservative. A Conservative taboo that would stop this and it must be gotten rid off.
They have indoctrinated people to see "conservative" as being bad hence cause being against cannibalism is being conservative. Said attitude is bad and must be abolished.
So progressive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!