What if the Institute helped Nazi Germany?

[Scooby Doo]

Let's say in 1939 the Institute at the end of a Institute ending in Fallout 4 is teleported into Berlin. The Institute board of directors is dissolved with an absolute leadership being placed under Erich von Manstein. (So he decides how Institute resources and tactics will be used)


Assuming the transition in leadership goes smoothly, can the allies still defeat a Germany that's able to replenish entire Battalions in months if not weeks as well as rapid teleportation and easy access anti tank weaponry?

What about spies infiltrating the Allies? How could such technology effect the war?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Not sure how the Allies could win with all of those assets brought to bear and no peer opponent.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Not sure how the Allies could win with all of those assets brought to bear and no peer opponent.

I was thinking that the Allies could still bring their overwhelming industry to bare, if Germany doesn't prioritize Gen III Synth production on a large enough scale then a couple thousand extra infantry a month won't make a difference when Russia is artillering Berlin into rubble.

 

[King Arts]

Let's say in 1939 the Institute at the end of a Institute ending in Fallout 4 is teleported into Berlin. The Institute board of directors is dissolved with an absolute leadership being placed under Erich von Manstein. (So he decides how Institute resources and tactics will be used)


Assuming the transition in leadership goes smoothly, can the allies still defeat a Germany that's able to replenish entire Battalions in months if not weeks as well as rapid teleportation and easy access anti tank weaponry?

What about spies infiltrating the Allies? How could such technology effect the war?

Yeah I think the Germans can win. They would have knowledge of nukes, and can also create legions of robots and teleport them into places they haven't been able to go to like London, or America.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Yeah I think the Germans can win. They would have knowledge of nukes, and can also create legions of robots and teleport them into places they haven't been able to go to like London, or America.

Do you think Hitler incompetence can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

 

[King Arts]

Do you think Hitler incompetence can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

I mean even he would be smart enough to know that decapitation strikes would cripple the other nations.
So teleporting armies into London Moscow or Washington can’t just be ignored and it will affect the Allie’s logistics.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Only way for the Nazis to lose I feel is fractional infighting within the Von Manstein directed Institute or between Von Mansteins Institute factions and the Nazi German factions.

 

[Scooby Doo]

I mean even he would be smart enough to know that decapitation strikes would cripple the other nations.
So teleporting armies into London Moscow or Washington can’t just be ignored and it will affect the Allie’s logistics.

Hitler says to only use the teleporters for his SS Troops because only the ubermench loyalists are allowed to travel using the power fo the valkries


bam he knee caps his armies.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

With the institute they just build some high altitude planes and nuke allied industry into the stone age with impunity.

 

[King Arts]

Hitler says to only use the teleporters for his SS Troops because only the ubermench loyalists are allowed to travel using the power fo the valkries


bam he knee caps his armies.

Is Hitler secretly trying to get the Allie’s to win.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Is Hitler secretly trying to get the Allie’s to win.

Nah he's just trying to show boat the superiority of German tech Hax by being inefficient as possible with it.

 

[ATP]

Nah he's just trying to show boat the superiority of German tech Hax by being inefficient as possible with it.

Well,in OTL he did it,for example almost stopped production of Me 262 demanding to turn it into bomber.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Well,in OTL he did it,for example almost stopped production of Me 262 demanding to turn it into bomber.

Hmm how well do you think it would go if he told his general to use Synth production to support the invasion of Stalingrad? Could the flow of a couple extra hundred/thousand a month of reinforcements make a difference?

 

[King Arts]

Hmm how well do you think it would go if he told his general to use Synth production to support the invasion of Stalingrad? Could the flow of a couple extra hundred/thousand a month of reinforcements make a difference?

It could, but he might decide to not provide the armies at the front with resources to "punish" them for the "failure" of winning fast enough.

 

[Bassoe]

Do you think Hitler incompetence can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

How long is he going to remain in charge anyway when his Institute "advisors" can have him swapped for a more manageable robotic replica? Starting paranoid witch hunts for infiltrators has been underrated so far in this discussion.

 

[Scooby Doo]

How long is he going to remain in charge anyway when his Institute "advisors" can have him swapped for a more manageable robotic replica? Starting paranoid witch hunts for infiltrators has been underrated so far in this discussion.

We're going with the Institute is Evil and won't betray the Germans because they get unlimited human experimentations route.

 

[ATP]

Hmm how well do you think it would go if he told his general to use Synth production to support the invasion of Stalingrad? Could the flow of a couple extra hundred/thousand a month of reinforcements make a difference?

Maybe,but...

It could, but he might decide to not provide the armies at the front with resources to "punish" them for the "failure" of winning fast enough.

Hitler was retarded like that.

We're going with the Institute is Evil and won't betray the Germans because they get unlimited human experimentations route.

Hitler stupidity would kill not only him,but them,too,so they must replace him.Unless...what about evil Institute letting Hitler die,and then join soviets? or,to have more fun,part would join soviets,and another USA,and remain in contact ?

 

[Agent23]

Manstein probably has Hitler and the other top nazi leadership replaced with bots.

 

[ATP]

Manstein probably has Hitler and the other top nazi leadership replaced with bots.

You have a point - they are loyal to Manstein,and he wanted victory.Since he was only nationalist,not genocider,then he would probably replace Himmler and worst SS goons,too.

 

[Scooby Doo]

You have a point - they are loyal to Manstein,and he wanted victory.Since he was only nationalist,not genocider,then he would probably replace Himmler and worst SS goons,too.

Yeah good catch! Institute is loyal to him not Hitler so if it's in character for Manstein to launch a coup then he can do it, but the question now is WHEN would Man stein launch the coup? Would he keep the Institute's infiltration abilities secret to himself or would it escape from an SS officer conducting an inspection?