Crossover Westeros & Essos Are ISOT’d to Warcraft’s Azeroth

[CarlManvers2019]

What do the powers of Westeros and Essos do when they find themselves, maybe in between the conflicts of the Horde and Alliance

Also, how long till any of the two go crazy due to marriage proposals and interhouse politicking?

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

You will have to specify where these two enormous continents are.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

You will have to specify where these two enormous continents are.

Wherever is closest to Azeroth and Kalimdor without falling into Maelstrom

Presumably ROB somehow warps reality so that they can be really near em without causing horrible stuff to do with earthquakes and gravity

Tywin will try getting Lannisters into Stormwind

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Wherever is closest to Azeroth and Kalimdor without falling into Maelstrom

Presumably ROB somehow warps reality so that they can be really near em without causing horrible stuff to do with earthquakes and gravity

Tywin will try getting Lannisters into Stormwind

I'm pretty sure Westeros and Essos are a lot bigger than the continents on Azeroth. Didn't it only take three days to sail from the northernmost point to the southernmost point of Kalimdor as of warcraft 3?

Westeros, plus the lands beyond the wall, is like 5000 miles long. Essos is of similar size. The continents of Azeroth are probably only a couple hundred miles long. The biggest effect this scenario would have would be essentially isolating the four continents from each other, as an entire hemisphere's worth of landmass (and presumably the sea that separates the two continents) would have appeared in between them.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

To put it in perspective, this scale is extremely generous to WoW

I just put stuff the first place I thought of, but you get the idea.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

To put it in perspective, this scale is extremely generous to WoW

I just put stuff the first place I thought of, but you get the idea.

Okay.....wow....I think there will be lots of expeditions from then on

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Okay.....wow....I think there will be lots of expeditions from then on

As important as the staggering difference in landmass-scale is the difference in the scale of personal power. There are more casters in single cities in warcraft than there are on the entire planet of Planetos, and even leaving that aside, things like firearms and bizzare steampunk machines are commonplace. Even leaving all that aside, due to the exaggerated scale of Warcraft (even the film version and lore-centric art, before someone thinks this is just about the graphics) every polity is fielding an army of men each easily a match for Gregor Clegane. He would be considered average in Azaroth and anyone else would be considered painfully anemic.

That said I really havent kept up with the lore-politics of Azaroth for like... half a decade now, so I cant actually tell you who would do what.


Also, you have to specify a time period for both sides.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Also, you have to specify a time period for both sides.

Wrath of The Lich King for World of Warcraft and Robert's Rebellion for ASOIAF

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Wrath of The Lich King for World of Warcraft and Robert's Rebellion for ASOIAF

Well, contact will be limited and slow between the various groups. If they're fairly close together, traders and pirates etc might start mapping out the opposing shorelines they stumble across trying to sail in their usual ways. Actual interaction would be extremely low for years (except, perhaps, for piracy) if only because of the tremendous language barriers in place.

That said, the time period for Warcraft is something of a bad Omen. The odds that Arthas would not sense the coming of the long night or, indeed, become a focal point of the power of the Great Other itself, seem to me to be nil. If Arthas were to invade Westeros from the north, he would be virtually unopposed, and his army of undead would swell a hundred times in size. I cannot say if the canonical forces that opposed him would have the wherewithal to move to oppose him in a foreign conquest.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

That said, the time period for Warcraft is something of a bad Omen. The odds that Arthas would not sense the coming of the long night or, indeed, become a focal point of the power of the Great Other itself, seem to me to be nil. If Arthas were to invade Westeros from the north, he would be virtually unopposed, and his army of undead would swell a hundred times in size. I cannot say if the canonical forces that opposed him would have the wherewithal to move to oppose him in a foreign conquest.

Given how they can barely withstand Wights(albeit including ones that were animals), they’re not gonna be able to stand up to the more magical, magitek, golem-esque and once already near-superhuman-before-death type of Undead

That said, back to Game of Thrones-politics(not Seasons 6-8 shit)the Houses will have significant problem even allowing them into the North to fight Arthas’ forces

They will probably want to do things like marry Jaina against her will and scare them away with marriage proposals from Walder Frey

Think of it like MuvLuv, the threat is confirmed to exist and is constantly attacking, but the REAL enemy to focus on is the other nations fighting it....well mostly the politicians between each other

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Given how they can barely withstand Wights(albeit including ones that were animals), they’re not gonna be able to stand up to the more magical, magitek, golem-esque and once already near-superhuman-before-death type of Undead

Arthas could break any army in Westeros single handedly. Thats the problem, theres nothing that operates at a similar scale to him.

That said, back to Game of Thrones-politics(not Seasons 6-8 shit)the Houses will have significant problem even allowing them into the North to fight Arthas’ forces

Allowing? How exactly would they stop tanks and airships from moving wherever the fuck they wanted?

They will probably want to do things like marry Jaina against her will and scare them away with marriage proposals from Walder Frey

You're memeing. They don't even speak the same language, they wouldn't even know who to propose what to.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Arthas could break any army in Westeros single handedly. Thats the problem, theres nothing that operates at a similar scale to him.


Allowing? How exactly would they stop tanks and airships from moving wherever the fuck they wanted?


You're memeing. They don't even speak the same language, they wouldn't even know who to propose what to.

Ok, got a point there

That too, I guess they will just grumble and proceed to try sucking up to both or either the Horde and Alliance

Same language? I’m pretty sure Westerosi=English=Common Tongue, and yeah, may need to know info as to who’s high up in Horde and Alliance for that

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Same language? I’m pretty sure Westerosi=English=Common Tongue

I have never heard of such canon statements, where are you getting this from?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I have never heard of such canon statements, where are you getting this from?

Okay, sorry they sound like they’re all speaking and using english, even use english words like Icecrown and Stormwind

 

[Husky_Khan]

I definitely dig the map but it would be neat if it was some manner of unexplored region in regards to "What is West of Westeros" and nothing beyond Kalimdor (due west of it) or East of the Eastern Kingdoms could be inferred as being explored yet for the purposes of this thread and you'd still have your fun Maelstorm in the center and generally continuous history and geography for the most part.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I definitely dig the map but it would be neat if it was some manner of unexplored region in regards to "What is West of Westeros" and nothing beyond Kalimdor (due west of it) or East of the Eastern Kingdoms could be inferred as being explored yet for the purposes of this thread and you'd still have your fun Maelstorm in the center and generally continuous history and geography for the most part.

Say, would the Free Cities and other Essosi powers raid either continents on sight or wait for an expedition to see its defences?

Because they’d really want some Elven slaves for one

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

I definitely dig the map but it would be neat if it was some manner of unexplored region in regards to "What is West of Westeros" and nothing beyond Kalimdor (due west of it) or East of the Eastern Kingdoms could be inferred as being explored yet for the purposes of this thread and you'd still have your fun Maelstorm in the center and generally continuous history and geography for the most part.

I put them together specifically so there'd be any interaction. Spread them out more, and it would be a hundred years minimum before any significant interplay between them outside of tiny individual scale stuff, and the settings would be completely different by then, kind of invalidating the idea of combining them at all.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I put them together specifically so there'd be any interaction. Spread them out more, and it would be a hundred years minimum before any significant interplay between them outside of tiny individual scale stuff, and the settings would be completely different by then, kind of invalidating the idea of combining them at all.

So, no intervention or trying to take advantage of the War of The Five Kings in order to say, take advantage of Westeros’ land and resources?

Would be better for the Horde to harvest huge amounts of lumber from Westerosi who can barely fight back than fighting and raiding Night Elves for it, then again there will be the problem of distance

Say, would the Maesters and Sept convulse over all the magic and better technologies? I think the latter will be sad that they don’t have any actual healing superpowers

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Say, would the Free Cities and other Essosi powers raid either continents on sight or wait for an expedition to see its defences?

Because they’d really want some Elven slaves for one

The world is a big place, I'm sure that someone, somewhere, would attack someone.

Also, I want you to seriously imagine the logistics of trying to enslave races for which Gregor Clegane would be considered average. If a Warcraft person got their hands on you, for even a second, they could snap your bones like twigs.

So, no intervention or trying to take advantage of the War of The Five Kings in order to say, take advantage of Westeros’ land and resources?

Would be better for the Horde to harvest huge amounts of lumber from Westerosi who can barely fight back than fighting and raiding Night Elves for it, then again there will be the problem of distance

I had forgotten about the Horde's lumber rustling. Considering the scale difference, I dont think the Horde is going to exhaust the forrests of Westeros, though such efforts might eventually lead to colonies, considering how open and undefended Westeros is.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I had forgotten about the Horde's lumber rustling. Considering the scale difference, I dont think the Horde is going to exhaust the forrests of Westeros, though such efforts might eventually lead to colonies, considering how open and undefended Westeros is.

The Horde goes off to establish a colony Beyond-The-Wall, sure it’s really cold but contrary to the tv show it has a surprising amount of life

Unlike, Robert E Howard’s story of Beyond The Black River, the Wildlings never become a threat to the Horde colonists

Wildling Barbarism must now deal with the existence of “Civilization” encroaching their lands after the Others are easily dealt with

Would probably result in lots of Wildlings trying to raid Horde settlements for resources and women, because they like dem Blood Elf women, only to be horribly slaughtered repeatedly

Also, the Haunted Forest becomes no more and the wildling tribes living there get very desperate