MMO Warframe - Ninjas play free

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What is Warframe?




It's a MMO Loot shooter where you play as a Space-Ninja fighting against three Sci-Fi factions: the Grineer, the Corpus, and the Technocyte.
The game has been out of closed beta since 2013, and has been steadily growing since then, adding new content, weapons, characters, game-modes, and modifications for said characters and weapons every few months. You can play solo or in a team of four, and join a clan for more goodies and happy hunting. Once you get far enough, you can get your very own spacefighter, called a Railjack. The game also includes plenty of quests and two open world maps that will increase in number.

The most recent dev-stream (a regular stream where the developers of WF showcase their plans and ideas for future content) reveal a new character called Protea, along with new weapons like a hand-shotgun with a laser-bayonet put on.


It is a fun game, with high speed gameplay and a welcoming community. Give it a try, it's free after all, and if you have questions, feel free to ask.

EDIT: And yes, the stuff you see in these trailers, you can do them in-game too.
 

robertliguori

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Bumping this for a reminder. If anyone has been vaguely interested in Warframe previously, then this Saturday is TennoLive, the COVID-adapted version of the game's yearly convention. You can get some neat in-game rewards for logging in and watching, so feel free to do that, and a new game update, the Heart of Deimos, will be revealed as well. Check it out if this sounds interesting to you.

 

Urabrask Revealed

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Bumping this for a reminder. If anyone has been vaguely interested in Warframe previously, then this Saturday is TennoLive, the COVID-adapted version of the game's yearly convention. You can get some neat in-game rewards for logging in and watching, so feel free to do that, and a new game update, the Heart of Deimos, will be revealed as well. Check it out if this sounds interesting to you.

Don't you need Twitch Prime to get the rewards for that or something?
 

robertliguori

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It's an all-day event in Eastern Standard Time, from 12:30 PM to sometime after 5:00 PM, and then streaming of the new content right after; there are separate rewards for watching during the main event and the streaming.

My googling suggests that CET is 5 hours past EST, so yes, 10:00 PM, but with events beforehand that are also probably worth watching.
 

Urabrask Revealed

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The Tennocon 2020 is online now, watch it here.
https://www. twitch . tv / warframe
Do that for 30 minutes if you have already linked your twitch account to your warframe one, then you get a Hydro Prime and a new secondary weapon.

EDIT: Alright. Hydroid Prime has his own trailer now, your life-support section of the ship will gain new features such as feeding it excess resources to gain more abilties and unlocks, and even sacrifice warframes you either don't use or just have too many of them to change one of three abilities of other warframe, Ultimate Abilities excluded.

Deimos, the moon of Mars, turns out to be a fucking mass of technocyte. A whole moon, it even looks like these moons from Dead Space.

The Warframe setting has technology that allows for a servo-skull with split personality to exist. The Technocyte is also capable of creating its very own ecosystem.

One thing's for sure, this technocyte world is beautiful in a twisted way.

Deimos will feature insects you can ride like skateboards.

Deimos also features Mechs called Necramechs you can pilot. They are about a little higher than an average human, so Minimechas really, but it's possible.

And the stream has concluded.
 
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Husky_Khan

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Sotnik

Tencent has become the parent company of Digital Extremes, which created and developed and currently owns the game franchise Warframe as well as having worked on other franchises like Homefront (irony) and Unreal over the years. Digital Extremes issued a statement regarding Warframe in particular and their current situations as a game company.


They insisted that their development team will retain creative control over Warframe and other games they will develop in the future.

Tencents gaming portfolio in the West now includes 40% in Epic Games, 29% in Funcom, 5% in Activision Blizzard, 5% in Ubisoft, 5% in Paradox Interactive and significant ownership of Platinum Games and complete ownership of Riot Games.
 

Val the Moofia Boss

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I just finished Warframes latest story quest "The New War". It was a wild ride and the man in the wall really saved our bacon.

I used to be really into Warframe until the storyline ground to a halt with the next quests taking years to come out, and the game becoming incredibly grindy. As someone who doesn't have a railjack and a necramech and who last did the Sacrifice quest, how much time is required to get caught up to do the New War? Or should I just watch the cutscenes on youtube?
 

ShadowsOfParadox

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I used to be really into Warframe until the storyline ground to a halt with the next quests taking years to come out, and the game becoming incredibly grindy. As someone who doesn't have a railjack and a necramech and who last did the Sacrifice quest, how much time is required to get caught up to do the New War? Or should I just watch the cutscenes on youtube?
I got my Necramech building within three days, the longest Necramech related farm was that I was getting no Damaged Pod drops from Iso Vaults, those are tradeable between players though.(well, ok, also there's the standing cap which might time gate you a bit harder)

They also massively dropped the resource requirements for Railjack so it shouldn't take much farming to get what you'll need for it, you will want hitscan pilot weapons for the quest if you are going into it without a decent chunk of intrinsics.

Also, gonna be honest, I think you'll lose something if you only watch the cutscenes, the whole of the quest is amazing and they did a very good job IMO, of tying the gameplay to the narrative.
 

Doomsought

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They also massively dropped the resource requirements for Railjack so it shouldn't take much farming to get what you'll need for it, you will want hitscan pilot weapons for the quest if you are going into it without a decent chunk of intrinsics.
Even then, farming the resources is pretty easy, you just need to do some void fissure defense on level 15+.
 

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Yeah, me. It was good, overall, but it has had its weak points. The first thing that comes to mind is how
the quest treated your own character as the sole Tenno in the origin system, which doesn't make sense. The sentients would've need to throw every one of them into the void, and that just doesn't work statistically.

I did like the sneak peek at the Zahriman Ten-Oh, especially the scenery where you can see the technocyte form limbs and other things. The sneaking parts were annyoing. I thought once you were the Operator again, you could massacre the archons or whatever they were, but instead you were still vulnerable to their brainwashing tools. The drifter's pistol should've been a sidearm, not an Amp.

I liked that ultimativly, the sentients are human in their sentiments and tend to act accordingly. I doubt that Erra is dead, and I also doubt that the mother has already played her role.

The reveal of what the MitW is was hilariously and disturbingly straightforward. "Man in the Wall", indeed. No wonder two people of vastly different origin could agree on what the Void-entity is called. Helps there was some foreshadowing to it.
Overall, I enjoyed the quest and look forward to the next Acts.
As an aside, which voice did you chose?
 

ShadowsOfParadox

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I really do wish the Sirocco got new animations, I do kind of understand why it didn't, but I still wish it did.

The part about other Tenno is kind of... hmmm, how to put this... I kind of think, given T.A. and what we see when Drifter gets her own Void Powers that either, the Player Tenno is actually the only Tenno, and every other Tenno is an Eternalist Alt, or, the Player Tenno is the one who made the deal with the Man in the Wall and every other Tenno therefore depends on the Player Tenno... alternatively, given the Deal, it's possible that ANY Tenno getting tossed back into the Void like that results in all Tenno windup back in the Void for however long that is. It's also worth noting that the ONLY place your Tenno is treated as the only Tenno by the narrative is the bit where Ballas tosses you into the Void and that's that. So, really, I'm pretty sure it's a matter of "There's one Tenno who made the deal to "save them all" and if that Tenno winds up back in the Void so does everyone else"... or it's just more of the usual "Cinematic Quests are Solo and don't really worry about what there being a bunch of Tenno doing it actually mattering"... though, with Eternalism we actually have an answer for how that makes sense... kind of... god Eternalism is weird.
I picked Lotus, Natah was betrayed, Margulis a false memory, Lotus the least painful I think.
 

robertliguori

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I feel like I missed a lot. A bit part of it is that I've kind of gotten de-invested in the Lotus as a character in the intervening time since the last story quests, and throughout NW, I really didn't have any solid evidence that any of Lotus's personas were more or less real than the others.

I was also completely unenthused at Ballas as a villain, especially because I brought good ol' Excalibur Umbra (and was thus also disappointed to see him keep falling over in the cut scenes). I was particularly not thrilled to have the grand system-spanning conflict reduced down to a domestic dispute, and had more or less checked out entirely when we had Ballas and Lotus playing out the same old tired, predictable, and horribly-inappropriate-to-type empowered-woman-confronts-her-abusive-partner narrative. We had no support into the idea that Ballas was somehow able to suborn Erra or the Sentient's greater plan, and I never got any reason why the Sentient plan wasn't "Fly in, eat the Sun, grofit declare victory over the Origin system."

To me, the Ballas story is over. He had his villainous bits before, and we (and Umbra) wrecked his shit (before, you know, Lotus messed things up). Bringing him back and saying "Yup, he's in charge now." with no explanation was, to my mind, a weaker part of the story than the whole Eternalism paradox stuff. And along with that, I still have no mental timeline for who the Lotus was since this arc began, and how her actions are meant to make sense along that line. I feel like everyone is the Drifter; I feel that characters' motivations, actions, and even histories can be picked up and discarded at a whim by the plot. Erra is the mastermind; Erra is a dupe. Teshin is our valued mentor and the first and only one to warn us about the New War; Teshin is casually killed and his death is completely un-remarked-upon. The Stalker is an implacable loyalist who hates the Tenno for disrupting the old Empire; the Stalker is just chilling with Space Grandpa when he not out a-stalking. And Space Grandpa himself is both an ancient and feared vanguard of the precursor to the New War, who has remained completely dedicated to the destruction of the remnants of the Orokin empire in order to protect his own people, and Space Grandpa whose motivations can be reduced to a weird relationship with his mitosis-babies. (And taking a weapon from him is a terrible / great idea). Under Eternalism (or, to use the technical term, bad writing), you cannot dream of who you want to be, because you cannot be anything other than what the plot tells you to be here and now in this moment, which is completely disjoint from anyone you've been and anyone you will be.

Also, the Archons have the stupidest damn designs of anything I've seen in Warframe, and that's saying something.

To me, New War did not expand the universe of Warframe. It made it cramped and claustrophobic. I feel like the writing staff of Warframe has let the memes of the community about Space Mom and Space Grandpa too heavily into their own considerations, and the need to bring Ballas back and recast him into Generic Male Abuser #3872 instead of following up in Erra and the promise of the threat of the Sentients, and his relationship to Lotus/Natah, feels uncomfortably like Current Year meddling and plot-rewrites.

Warframe needs a reboot, and has for some time. It needs a consistent editor to find a way to tie things together, and to be on-hand when new material is written to ask "Is this story redundant with what has gone before? Does it contradict or ignore lore we've established? And if so, how can we tweak things to keep the story fresh, and build on what we've done before instead?"
 

ShadowsOfParadox

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I feel like I missed a lot. A bit part of it is that I've kind of gotten de-invested in the Lotus as a character in the intervening time since the last story quests, and throughout NW, I really didn't have any solid evidence that any of Lotus's personas were more or less real than the others.

I was also completely unenthused at Ballas as a villain, especially because I brought good ol' Excalibur Umbra (and was thus also disappointed to see him keep falling over in the cut scenes). I was particularly not thrilled to have the grand system-spanning conflict reduced down to a domestic dispute, and had more or less checked out entirely when we had Ballas and Lotus playing out the same old tired, predictable, and horribly-inappropriate-to-type empowered-woman-confronts-her-abusive-partner narrative. We had no support into the idea that Ballas was somehow able to suborn Erra or the Sentient's greater plan, and I never got any reason why the Sentient plan wasn't "Fly in, eat the Sun, grofit declare victory over the Origin system."

To me, the Ballas story is over. He had his villainous bits before, and we (and Umbra) wrecked his shit (before, you know, Lotus messed things up). Bringing him back and saying "Yup, he's in charge now." with no explanation was, to my mind, a weaker part of the story than the whole Eternalism paradox stuff. And along with that, I still have no mental timeline for who the Lotus was since this arc began, and how her actions are meant to make sense along that line. I feel like everyone is the Drifter; I feel that characters' motivations, actions, and even histories can be picked up and discarded at a whim by the plot. Erra is the mastermind; Erra is a dupe. Teshin is our valued mentor and the first and only one to warn us about the New War; Teshin is casually killed and his death is completely un-remarked-upon. The Stalker is an implacable loyalist who hates the Tenno for disrupting the old Empire; the Stalker is just chilling with Space Grandpa when he not out a-stalking. And Space Grandpa himself is both an ancient and feared vanguard of the precursor to the New War, who has remained completely dedicated to the destruction of the remnants of the Orokin empire in order to protect his own people, and Space Grandpa whose motivations can be reduced to a weird relationship with his mitosis-babies. (And taking a weapon from him is a terrible / great idea). Under Eternalism (or, to use the technical term, bad writing), you cannot dream of who you want to be, because you cannot be anything other than what the plot tells you to be here and now in this moment, which is completely disjoint from anyone you've been and anyone you will be.

Also, the Archons have the stupidest damn designs of anything I've seen in Warframe, and that's saying something.

To me, New War did not expand the universe of Warframe. It made it cramped and claustrophobic. I feel like the writing staff of Warframe has let the memes of the community about Space Mom and Space Grandpa too heavily into their own considerations, and the need to bring Ballas back and recast him into Generic Male Abuser #3872 instead of following up in Erra and the promise of the threat of the Sentients, and his relationship to Lotus/Natah, feels uncomfortably like Current Year meddling and plot-rewrites.

Warframe needs a reboot, and has for some time. It needs a consistent editor to find a way to tie things together, and to be on-hand when new material is written to ask "Is this story redundant with what has gone before? Does it contradict or ignore lore we've established? And if so, how can we tweak things to keep the story fresh, and build on what we've done before instead?"
I pretty strongly disagree with, like, everything here. In particular, the part where you say that the story is a "current year rewrite", because we've had hints that this sort of relationship was a thing for... well... at least as long as we've had Ballas's name. Consider the Detron Crewman Synthesis where Ballas gets the Sentients approved while appearing to be against it, he absolutely COULD have gotten Margulis off. In the cinematic that kicked this whole thing off we get introduced to Ballas by him doing the brainwash. Early in the New War we get proof that the brainwashing isn't absolute. And Hunhow has CONSISTENTLY been "The Orokin are dead, I don't really like anyone left, but mostly I want my kids to be happy." Honestly, the part that was weird to me was always Ballas being the wretched thing he was in the cinematics, when I saw him standing properly in the last cinematic I was like "Ah, so he was faking the whole time and has always been in charge, got it." Really, my only question now is "Why do we have the Paracesis at all?" And, tbh, I'm pretty sure it's because Ballas did wanna kill Natah and needed the Paracesis for it... well, that or the Paracesis was secretly an Anti-Tenno weapon the whole time... but it could also be that Ballas decided we'd need the Paracesis to last long enough for him to get everything in position.

But yeah, that's my big question after New War, why do we have the Paracesis?
 

robertliguori

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I pretty strongly disagree with, like, everything here. In particular, the part where you say that the story is a "current year rewrite", because we've had hints that this sort of relationship was a thing for... well... at least as long as we've had Ballas's name. Consider the Detron Crewman Synthesis where Ballas gets the Sentients approved while appearing to be against it, he absolutely COULD have gotten Margulis off. In the cinematic that kicked this whole thing off we get introduced to Ballas by him doing the brainwash. Early in the New War we get proof that the brainwashing isn't absolute. And Hunhow has CONSISTENTLY been "The Orokin are dead, I don't really like anyone left, but mostly I want my kids to be happy." Honestly, the part that was weird to me was always Ballas being the wretched thing he was in the cinematics, when I saw him standing properly in the last cinematic I was like "Ah, so he was faking the whole time and has always been in charge, got it." Really, my only question now is "Why do we have the Paracesis at all?" And, tbh, I'm pretty sure it's because Ballas did wanna kill Natah and needed the Paracesis for it... well, that or the Paracesis was secretly an Anti-Tenno weapon the whole time... but it could also be that Ballas decided we'd need the Paracesis to last long enough for him to get everything in position.

But yeah, that's my big question after New War, why do we have the Paracesis?

I do not buy that Ballas planned to get shanked by Umbra, rebuilt as a half-Sentient abomination, and tugged around on a leash. I could be convinced that Ballas managed somehow to Annatar-lord-of-gifts Erra, but only if we got a lot more Erra, and if we got that relationship extended.

But I am certainly willing to be convinced; if you can give me a quick rundown of "Here is who this person is, here is what their broad goals are, and here is what they are doing to achieve that goal." for Lotus, Erra, and Ballas as of Sacrifice, in your own view, I'd be appreciative, since I can't get a good read from there. Up to there, it was fairly clear, at least to me.

My own take at that point is that Erra, representing the Sentient threat as a whole, wanted the entire Origin system cleansed, since from the perspective of the Sentients (which were literally sentient tools), literally all of the humans were the Golden Lords, and they would always be a threat to Tau. Lotus was originally the equivalent of a Mimic Prime among the Sentients who got caught up into the Tenno's void magic bullshittery and ended up being changed, such that she ended up with a new personality that was a synthesis of her old Natah persona and the person she chose to emulate (Margulis), and Ballas wants Margulis back, but really wants to keep dicking around the Origin system as the Last Golden Lord, and that symbolically, he is a mirror to us the Tenno, in that he wants the Lotus to be someone that she's really not.

Hunhow (and later Erra) perceive the Lotus persona of the Lotus as nothing but Tenno void-magic bullshittery, and the actions of Hunhow are enough to (partially) dislodge it. Erra, as of the intro quests, seemed to be being set up as the Sentient equivalent to the Orokin of old, and was implied to have been modifying Lotus's memories per her dialogue in the Ropalolyst boss fight, and him literally parading around the Last Golden Lord as a trophy supported that read to me.

As for Hunhow, again, we've seen that accepting a weapon from him is a very bad idea, per the Stalker, and his attempted takeover of Suda in Octavia's quest does not read as passivity to me.

To me, the Paracesis was pretty clearly meant to be what it was up through Sacrifice; a weapon designed to fight the Sentient made by the Orokin, because at the time the Orokin were getting their shit pushed in by the Sentient. Ballas was originally pretty agnostic to the whole Tenno / Sentient conflict brewing because both sides also wanted him dead, and gave us the blueprint for it even after our shanking of him in Sacrifice because he wanted us to free him from what the Sentient was doing to him.

I do not get where Ballas got the magic mind-control cheat codes to All The Sentient Except Hunhow. I have no characterization of Erra any more because we now don't know what was actually his intention and what was Ballas puppeting him. And because I don't know when the hell any of this was going on, and we never got any "This is when Ballas got his ability to puppet Sentients", we're left with the apparent assumption that Ballas could have single-handedly stopped the original Old War by waving his stick, but didn't, for Reasons, and that he is capable of magically mind-controlling the entire Origin system, including the Tenno if he can get a VR headset onto them, but didn't do that before, for Reasons.

It just doesn't gel for me.

Now, all this being said, I don't want to be purely negative. I got a little exasperated with the mandatory Drifter and Operator sessions, but I really did like the combats of the first two Archons with such limited tools, as a contrast to the third fight, which purely demonstrates that operator-in-Warframe is just that ridiculously powerful. I wished we'd gotten a full song version of the dark and defeated We All Live Together remix, because as usual, the music was great and set the mood for the subjugated Origin system perfectly. And I liked the implication from the use of red and black color bits in the Veil that it was based in the original source of Orokin mind-fuckery: kuva. And I wish that more was done with the intro quest bits from the various factions, and that there was more of a payoff to them, but I did enjoy all three of the playthrough bits.
 

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