EU Vienna's statue controversy

[Marduk]

King Sobieski monument erected in Kraków after Vienna says it’s too controversial

A monument of Polish king Jan III Sobieski has been placed on a platform trailer in front of the Papal Window in Kraków.

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A monument of Polish king Jan III Sobieski has been placed on a platform trailer in front of the Papal Window in Kraków.


The monument has been put on temporary display to remind people of its existence after authorities in Vienna withdrew from a long-term plan to erect it on Kahlenberg hill in Vienna, from where the Polish king launched his history-changing attack 336 years ago.

The mayor's reasoning is quite... is quite eyebrow raising:

Fearing that the monument may be perceived as anti-Turkish, Vienna mayor Michael Ludwig said that it was not an appropriate time to erect military monuments.

It will stand in Kraków for a maximum of two weeks according to local authorities in the city. Later, it will move on to Nowy Sącz, Brzeg and Nysa, places that are connected with the life of the king, and possibly to Warsaw, where it would stand in front of the Royal Castle.

And there won't be a similar controversy in any of these cities, i (do not) wonder why...

 

[Lanmandragon]

Hey you guys got the crazy statue people to? Did not know that but it's unsurprising. Personally I'd say it being "anti-turkish" is a reason to erect it. As opposed to a reason not to that's just me though.

 

[Arch Dornan]

I say erect it. Not because of the Turks or religion but because he ensured the geographical lines changed.

 

[almostinsane]

The mayor is a cuck.

 

[Guardian Box]

The mayor's reasoning is quite... is quite eyebrow raising:

That's completely idiotic. Any monument honoring someone who fought someone else could be construed as being against the other side, therefore necessitating it's removal by this retarded logic.

Is he going to speak out against monuments honoring those who fought the nazis as well, since they can be construed as anti-german? Don't reply, we all know the answer to that.

 

[Cherico]

considering how Austria rewarded Poland for saving them by helping partition their country, maybe this is a good thing.

because eventally people will ask how did we reward Poland for helping us?

 

[PsihoKekec]

Not surprising, Austria startes shitting on Poland the moment Turks retreated, some accounts describe the Leopold's reception for Sobieski to be at the verge of diplomatic snub.
Also, mayor of Vienna bending over for multiculturalism and his Turkish voters in particular is nothing new.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

The mayor's reasoning is quite... is quite eyebrow raising:

The mayor is a traitor and coward. The statue shouldn't just be there, it should have loudspeakers installed that play a select number of songs that mock the invading Muslims and praise the Glory of God and His Earthly Soldiers that fought against the invading hordes. Like this one:

Don't reply, we all know the answer to that.

No, because germans are white and too meek to commit terror attacks.

Also, mayor of Vienna bending over for multiculturalism and his Turkish voters in particular is nothing new.

Like I said, Traitor and coward.

 

[Arch Dornan]

The mayor is a cuck.

If the Polish failed the city called Vienna he's the mayor of may not be called Vienna anymore.

He should at least realise that the cucking cuck.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Cucks tend to ignore the history.

 

[Arlos]

Who is the mayor exactly?

 

[PsihoKekec]

Socialists control Vienna since WWII.

 

[prinCZess]

This seems weirdly insulting and/or overly complimentary to Turkey? Like...From a basic standpoint.
Because the only way it makes much sense is if the mayor thinks modern Turkey under Erdogan is comparable to the Ottoman sultanate in their resurgent era? Which seems oddly in-line with the style of thinking and comparisons his political opponents would likely make in the negative sense because they see Turkey as a nation of outsiders and Muslims etc. etc. in the same vein as the Ottomans of yesteryear, and then a good deal overly complimentary to Erdogan in the positive sense--because the dude is decidedly not no Mehmed or Koprulu, but he and his proponents in Turkey would adore to have the comparison made because looking back to the Ottomans as some kind of symbol has been Erdogan's schtick ever since he jumped into power on the backs of rural support who just aren't as inspired by Ataturk's secularist reforms as by the preceding centuries.

So this seems like a cluster of opposing thought on the part of the mayor even absent the silliness of being so concerned over a statue to a centuries-old historical figure central to the city's past. Like...If Sobieski was known for ordering some kind of mass execution of the Ottomans I could see the argument from that angle, but to my understanding the victorious folks were no more brutal than was typical of 1600s era military forces, and were more preoccupied with looting the Ottoman encapment afterwards than massacring folks, so...This seems silly.

 

[Marduk]

Oh but the thing is, dollars to donuts that the Turks he's concerned about aren't the ones in Turkey, it's the ones in Vienna, as mentioned on a different occassion here.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2017/04/16/vienna-police-alert-ahead-turkish-referendum/