Vanderbilt football mess
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I'm amazed that the kick was so bad, but not surprised by the coach's firing given his record:
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The Monday After: It's time for Vanderbilt to change its philosophy and embrace an option offense
I make my annual plea, and then a look at the Thanksgiving weekend that was in college football
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Oh it is horrible. I think she either purposely made her kick short so she had no worry about having to try and tackle, OR she had never really practiced and could not compare to her soccer daysI'm amazed that the kick was so bad, but not surprised by the coach's firing given his record:
The Monday After: It's time for Vanderbilt to change its philosophy and embrace an option offense
I make my annual plea, and then a look at the Thanksgiving weekend that was in college football
I've heard a number of reports saying it was intentionally short (for.....reasons, I guess) and apparently she's done much better kicks in practice, so it could be. It being intentional sounds plausible, if dumb...then again, they lost 41-0, so there's a lot of dumb to go around.
By on the other hand, if she had punted the ball into the stands and hit some dude in the face with it, the headline would have been how she used her moment in the spotlight to take on the patriarchy head on by nailing this clearly misogynistic fan (as evidenced by him retweeting Jordan Peterson or something) with her first drive, thus proving women are the best or something.
By on the other hand, if she had punted the ball into the stands and hit some dude in the face with it, the headline would have been how she used her moment in the spotlight to take on the patriarchy head on by nailing this clearly misogynistic fan (as evidenced by him retweeting Jordan Peterson or something) with her first drive, thus proving women are the best or something.
The entire story stinks to high heaven. I'm not sure about it being a publicity stunt. The (now fired) Coach stated that their Special Teams had been stripped down due to Covid-19/WuFlu restrictions so they asked her to kick some balls (hurr hurr) so if it was a publicity stunt, it was a timely one at worst.
The fact that there's a huge cottage industry of anti-Woke and right wing media shitting on her because the liberal mainstream media is fawning over her (I honestly didn't hear anything about it until someone linked me the terrible story on the Daily Wire about it) is pretty shitty in itself.
Like this is an incredibly shitty article written by Matt Walsh. Somehow she manages to conflate her one kickoff at halftime with Vanderbilt losing 41-0, the Coach being fired, and proving that women cannot compete with men ever.
Just barely looking into the story I could see video of her on Twitter kicking field goals with a football in practice successfully. I could see she was a member of a championship soccer team and while the dynamics are different due to shape and everything... mass wise... kicking a football and a soccer ball isn't particularly shocking in terms of leg strength.
Also the ball was poorly positioned apparently. It was leaning in towards her and the laces weren't fully pointed outward. But you know, he's a man. He knows how the play the game clearly. It's the womans fault still. The only thing I'd fault her for (besides the cringe speech) is that the ball could've gone out of bounds first.
The fact that so many articles are stating that women are incapable of kicking a football is either stupid or hilarious or sad or some combination thereof. Women can kick footballs. They've been doing it in female football leagues for years. They've been doing it in soccer for years. Sarah Fuller was able to do it in practice leading up to this game repeatedly. Women are capable of kicking a football successfully.
I'm sorry if this is shocking to the Daily Wire's Matt Walsh or any other idiots but it's obvious that this was an onside kick. Not "lol women can't kick a ball, only men can" sort of nonsense. The team was down 27-0 at the half and were kicking off the ball. They were already losing and probably wanted to maximize the amount of possessions they got and that's what you do with an onside kick. All of this talk that she, being a woman, is incapable of kicking a ball... or that she was afraid she would have to tackle someone is pretty eye roll inducing.
Here's a newsflash. Women are physically capable of kicking footballs. They have that physical capability and it's not some super rare thing only transwomen or GI Jane types can do or something. Kickoffs. Field Goals. Points after Touchdown kicks. Punts. Those are almost wholly due to mental game and form, not direct physicality.
Also there's claims that she beelined it straight for the sidelines after the kick. I saw the video... it shows her running to the sideline after the play is over. Unless she's so slow she can't run to the sideline in a few seconds. She hanged back (like kickers and punters always f'ing do) saw the play was over and began prancing over to the sidelines showing off those thicc assets of hers in those tight football pants.
It's a fucking kick. I get that she's a woman and she should remain in the kitchen or whatever but if there's a problem with the story, it's how the sports media is presenting this as some sort of messianic moment in sports. Not with Sarah Fuller making an onside kick. People who are dumping on her are just being shitty.
I bet the halftime speech was cringe though.
Unless she decided to drop some balls and do a Beto O'Rourke... stand on a table and be like "You guys are fucking losing! The only reason I'm here is because the only winners on this campus is the Girls Soccer team. Oh you don't like being called losers by a girl... sorry I don't speak bitch." and so on and so forth. In which case she could probably be the new Coach.
Regardless it was clear the speech didn't work.
The fact that there's a huge cottage industry of anti-Woke and right wing media shitting on her because the liberal mainstream media is fawning over her (I honestly didn't hear anything about it until someone linked me the terrible story on the Daily Wire about it) is pretty shitty in itself.
Like this is an incredibly shitty article written by Matt Walsh. Somehow she manages to conflate her one kickoff at halftime with Vanderbilt losing 41-0, the Coach being fired, and proving that women cannot compete with men ever.
Just barely looking into the story I could see video of her on Twitter kicking field goals with a football in practice successfully. I could see she was a member of a championship soccer team and while the dynamics are different due to shape and everything... mass wise... kicking a football and a soccer ball isn't particularly shocking in terms of leg strength.
Also the ball was poorly positioned apparently. It was leaning in towards her and the laces weren't fully pointed outward. But you know, he's a man. He knows how the play the game clearly. It's the womans fault still. The only thing I'd fault her for (besides the cringe speech) is that the ball could've gone out of bounds first.
The fact that so many articles are stating that women are incapable of kicking a football is either stupid or hilarious or sad or some combination thereof. Women can kick footballs. They've been doing it in female football leagues for years. They've been doing it in soccer for years. Sarah Fuller was able to do it in practice leading up to this game repeatedly. Women are capable of kicking a football successfully.
I'm sorry if this is shocking to the Daily Wire's Matt Walsh or any other idiots but it's obvious that this was an onside kick. Not "lol women can't kick a ball, only men can" sort of nonsense. The team was down 27-0 at the half and were kicking off the ball. They were already losing and probably wanted to maximize the amount of possessions they got and that's what you do with an onside kick. All of this talk that she, being a woman, is incapable of kicking a ball... or that she was afraid she would have to tackle someone is pretty eye roll inducing.
Here's a newsflash. Women are physically capable of kicking footballs. They have that physical capability and it's not some super rare thing only transwomen or GI Jane types can do or something. Kickoffs. Field Goals. Points after Touchdown kicks. Punts. Those are almost wholly due to mental game and form, not direct physicality.
Also there's claims that she beelined it straight for the sidelines after the kick. I saw the video... it shows her running to the sideline after the play is over. Unless she's so slow she can't run to the sideline in a few seconds. She hanged back (like kickers and punters always f'ing do) saw the play was over and began prancing over to the sidelines showing off those thicc assets of hers in those tight football pants.
It's a fucking kick. I get that she's a woman and she should remain in the kitchen or whatever but if there's a problem with the story, it's how the sports media is presenting this as some sort of messianic moment in sports. Not with Sarah Fuller making an onside kick. People who are dumping on her are just being shitty.
I bet the halftime speech was cringe though.
Unless she decided to drop some balls and do a Beto O'Rourke... stand on a table and be like "You guys are fucking losing! The only reason I'm here is because the only winners on this campus is the Girls Soccer team. Oh you don't like being called losers by a girl... sorry I don't speak bitch." and so on and so forth. In which case she could probably be the new Coach.
Regardless it was clear the speech didn't work.
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PsihoKekec
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Eh, it was a pooch kick. You do them intentionally so that the kick returner doesn't get the ball. Preferable when you're special team is rather...lackluster. You kick it to someone who isn't likely to run the ball for a big return.
Sure, it might also have been done to reduce the risk of her having to become a tackle. But plenty of teams do pooch kick to limit return, especially if your special team defense sucks, or the other teams returner is good.
But odds are given that Vanderbilt is pretty shitty, it was intentionally done to try and limit a return lol. They got absolutely destroyed in the game afterall.
Bear Ribs
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Don't call her the first woman kicker in college Football. That was Liz Heaston all the way back in 1997. And she made an impressive showing and scored points. It feels tremendously disrepectful to Heaston for Fuller to be stealing that glory.
Fuller is the first to play specifically in a Power 5 Conference game and the "Power 5 Conference" part that makes this such a nothingburger seems to be getting buried in 1 point type in favor of "FIRST WOMAN KICKER!"
Fuller is the first to play specifically in a Power 5 Conference game and the "Power 5 Conference" part that makes this such a nothingburger seems to be getting buried in 1 point type in favor of "FIRST WOMAN KICKER!"
Ah, so it's another one of those "erase victories of the past so the present seems more progressive" moments.
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I'll put something witty here eventually.
Yes and no. Yes, it was dumb to say "First female kicker"
But, Liz played in Division 3, this was Division 1, and not just D1, but Power Five. This is the best level of college football, so it is still a big achievement. But it also shouldn't be used to downplay the actual first female kicker.
Whitestrake Pelinal
Like a dream without a dreamer
Grown men playing with their balls is so passé. We need more fit young women demonstrating their ball-handling skills!