Military US Military Is Scared Americans Won't Fight For Globalism

Just make a 'military memes' thread ind kick the stuff there. ;)
If you want to start a thread for that, that's fine. But the staff know that occasionally people will want to post memes outside of those, and that's fine, just don't turn non-meme threads into meme threads.
 
Or jist actually look at what one can do in the Army.
Free housing, free Healthcare, q steady paycheck and experience
That's a fair argument. But you will always want more. See in that case you will attract people who will have a mercenary mindset, they are willing to fight and risk their lives for pay and bennefits. But they won't go into suicide missions, and won't be all "rah rah we are the best we want to spread our system/ideology and convert everyone else to this awesome way of life!" That's what neo cons want they don't go to war for reasons of empire or to maintain power for the most part. No they want to spread democracy. And a mercenary will say "Fuck democracy, and fuck the constitution I'm not willing to sacrifice for it." Yes they are willing to fight for it and defend it, but they won't be as devoted or fanatic.
 
It's why I am of the opinion that women's rights are likely going to become non existent in the future. The next womens rights movement will look back on the feminists of today with contempt.
Well, it’s not like ‘modern feminism’ doesn’t deserve it. Then again, feminism was always crazy.

 
It's why I am of the opinion that women's rights are likely going to become non existent in the future. The next womens rights movement will look back on the feminists of today with contempt.

Unless feminism reforms itself with in a certain window to time the only rights women will have are those they win on the battlefield and we both know that once the lead starts flying and people start dying who is going to bolt.
 
That's a fair argument. But you will always want more. See in that case you will attract people who will have a mercenary mindset, they are willing to fight and risk their lives for pay and bennefits. But they won't go into suicide missions, and won't be all "rah rah we are the best we want to spread our system/ideology and convert everyone else to this awesome way of life!" That's what neo cons want they don't go to war for reasons of empire or to maintain power for the most part. No they want to spread democracy. And a mercenary will say "Fuck democracy, and fuck the constitution I'm not willing to sacrifice for it." Yes they are willing to fight for it and defend it, but they won't be as devoted or fanatic.
Mercenaries tend to get out after a short while
 
Korea we didn't serve Beijing. We were not even there as an invading force just there to help get the country back up from under what it jad during the Japanese hold over it.

No you served a bunch of homosexual internationalist billionaires that worstip false gods who had infiltrated and subverted society oh and their allies in the CIA.

FDR created a tyranny within America and the US IC seized it and took it over. Yeah, eventually they became China's dogs but they were leading America into pointless bullshit for gain long before that.
 
Mercenaries tend to get out after a short while
I'm not saying actual mercenaries aka foreign fighters being paid to serve a foreign nation. When I say mercenary I mean your primary motivation is financial. I mean for example if the main reason you do a job is to make a wage sure you might be loyal. But would you be willing to do something that is almost certain death aka a suicide mission if there is another option available? Not really people only do that for causes that they believe in, whether it's their nations ideas, religion, political causes, etc.
 
I'm not saying actual mercenaries aka foreign fighters being paid to serve a foreign nation. When I say mercenary I mean your primary motivation is financial. I mean for example if the main reason you do a job is to make a wage sure you might be loyal. But would you be willing to do something that is almost certain death aka a suicide mission if there is another option available? Not really people only do that for causes that they believe in, whether it's their nations ideas, religion, political causes, etc.

Seems you gotta use the term PMC nowadays since too many people have conflated the term "Mercenary" with foreign volunteers thanks to successful propaganda efforts.
 
If you want to start a thread for that, that's fine. But the staff know that occasionally people will want to post memes outside of those, and that's fine, just don't turn non-meme threads into meme threads.
I occasionally post stuff here, but not memes.

TBH I often forget about a lot of threads until I suddenly get an unsolicited alert for them.

The wierd thing is I do not get updates for threads I am actually interested in, though!
 
I occasionally post stuff here, but not memes.

TBH I often forget about a lot of threads until I suddenly get an unsolicited alert for them.

The wierd thing is I do not get updates for threads I am actually interested in, though!
The way thread alerts work is either OP alerts or alerts on unread posts (which only happen if everything in the thread is read).
 
The way thread alerts work is either OP alerts or alerts on unread posts (which only happen if everything in the thread is read).
And let me guess, if I have blocked people I do not get any messagesif that person posts in a thread I follow?
At the same time, I can see threads created by people I block in "latest activity" and get alerts from them if I post there.

Bleh, XenForo is a peice of crap.
 
I'm not saying actual mercenaries aka foreign fighters being paid to serve a foreign nation. When I say mercenary I mean your primary motivation is financial. I mean for example if the main reason you do a job is to make a wage sure you might be loyal. But would you be willing to do something that is almost certain death aka a suicide mission if there is another option available? Not really people only do that for causes that they believe in, whether it's their nations ideas, religion, political causes, etc.
I know people that are in solely for money and thwy still would chase the money going to a PMC not staying in...
 
Seems you gotta use the term PMC nowadays since too many people have conflated the term "Mercenary" with foreign volunteers thanks to successful propaganda efforts.

I'm coming to this a little late, so I might be missing earlier context, but it seems like he's more discussing the specific motivation, rather than corporate structure. Wagner for example is a PMC, but I get the sense a lot of them join partially out of a loyalty to Russia, though the higher pay than normal military I'm sure was a big motivation to go Wagner rather than military. I believe the French foreign legion had some similar elements. The motivation to join was patriotism, the higher pay scale/situation just determined where one went.

Meanwhile, there are a lot of regular US soldiers who's primary reason to join is for pay. Between being a truck driver for an oil field or the Army, the army's offer was in some way more lucrative. You probably get a better idea of the mercenary vs patriotic soldier in those fields where very lucrative civilian options are readily available: for example its my understanding its traditionally been hard to hold onto pilots in the Air Force, because they can just quit and make 3-4x as much as a civilian pilot once they have some flight training and experience.

So, I believe that is the comparison being made: motivation of patriotism vs mercenariness. And obviously everyone practically is a mixture of both. The number of people who would be soldiers no matter how bad pay got, or would never fight for the US military no matter how good the pay/benefits got, are fairly small populations.

Almost everyone has a price, patriotism helps determine where that price is. Like there is probably some price china could pay zachowon to turn traitor, but taking him at face value his price would probably be much higher than anything he could give China. Bribing him would probably be possible, but not cost effective.

Edit: well, patriotism and fear determine the price. There's probably a good number of people who do have something they would be perfectly happy to sell at a price China would be happy to buy, except for the fear of US retaliation. The Chinese were able to apparently recruit a fair number of ex-pilots for about $250k a person. Partially because they are apparently not technically breaking any laws, so there is no formal punishment. The number of soldiers willing to sell out the US for 100k if punishment was unlikely for doing so is probably quite high.
 
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I'm coming to this a little late, so I might be missing earlier context, but it seems like he's more discussing the specific motivation, rather than corporate structure. Wagner for example is a PMC, but I get the sense a lot of them join partially out of a loyalty to Russia, though the higher pay than normal military I'm sure was a big motivation to go Wagner rather than military. I believe the French foreign legion had some similar elements. The motivation to join was patriotism, the higher pay scale/situation just determined where one went.

Meanwhile, there are a lot of regular US soldiers who's primary reason to join is for pay. Between being a truck driver for an oil field or the Army, the army's offer was in some way more lucrative. You probably get a better idea of the mercenary vs patriotic soldier in those fields where very lucrative civilian options are readily available: for example its my understanding its traditionally been hard to hold onto pilots in the Air Force, because they can just quit and make 3-4x as much as a civilian pilot once they have some flight training and experience.

So, I believe that is the comparison being made: motivation of patriotism vs mercenariness. And obviously everyone practically is a mixture of both. The number of people who would be soldiers no matter how bad pay got, or would never fight for the US military no matter how good the pay/benefits got, are fairly small populations.

Almost everyone has a price, patriotism helps determine where that price is. Like there is probably some price china could pay zachowon to turn traitor, but taking him at face value his price would probably be much higher than anything he could give China. Bribing him would probably be possible, but not cost effective.

Edit: well, patriotism and fear determine the price. There's probably a good number of people who do have something they would be perfectly happy to sell at a price China would be happy to buy, except for the fear of US retaliation. The Chinese were able to apparently recruit a fair number of ex-pilots for about $250k a person. Partially because they are apparently not technically breaking any laws, so there is no formal punishment. The number of soldiers willing to sell out the US for 100k if punishment was unlikely for doing so is probably quite high.
Thier recruitment apperently backfired.
The chinese
 
While Vets Wait for Care, VA Spends Millions on Transgenderism
There's money for transgender hormones, not cancer treatments.
August 23, 2023 by Daniel Greenfield 60 Comments

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The Veterans Affairs scandals that disgraced the Obama administration never went away. Instead the VA has stonewalled groups like Concerned Veterans for America (CVA) who have been seeking information about wait times for veterans. It's not that the VA doesn't have the money to treat vets, but that the money continues to be wasted on radical woke agendas.

After a prolonged battle, Concerned Veterans for America uncovered documents showing that the VA has manipulated wait time numbers to misleadingly portray appointments a month and a half away as having a zero wait time. This is a continuation of the waiting lists scandal under the Obama administration a decade ago that we were told had been successfully resolved.

The Trump administration and a Republican Congress passed the VA Mission Act to allow veterans more access to health care outside the system, but the VA obstructed veterans from getting 'community care'. Veterans who couldn't get timely health care were warned against going outside the system and subjected to extra layers of obstruction by the VA bureaucracy.
The VA violated the VA Mission Act and its action likely led to illness and possibly deaths.

A USA Today investigation revealed that "VA administrators are overruling doctors' judgments and preventing them from sending their patients outside the VA health care system."

The VA's goal is to keep veterans from leaving the system to save money.

While the VA can't seem to care for veterans, it is busy offering transgender procedures that include hormones, pre-op evaluation, and post-op care. The VA handles everything from using the right pronouns to storing sperm and eggs, and even hair removal and fake breasts.

Veterans with cancer are not being treated in a timely manner, but those whose mental problems lead them to think that they're really women are getting fast tracked to castration.

Chris Beck, a former Navy SEAL who was turned into the poster boy for transgenderism, described being fast-tracked after an hour-long meeting at the VA.

Even while the VA was fighting efforts to track accurate wait times, VA Secretary Denis McDonough announced that he planned to offer castration and other gender mutilation surgeries. McDonough is not a doctor and had not served in the military, he was an Obama aide, part of the administration that was responsible for the original VA wait time scandal.

As a reward, Biden appointed him to head the VA. "Be they veterans of color or LGBTQ+ veterans, our job is to get them all the service and the care that they've earned," McDonough explained his priorities. What about veterans who aren't members of a minority group? They don't matter.

McDonough estimated that transgender surgeries might cost as much as $71 million. And he was eager to move forward even at a time when the VA was back to playing musical chairs with medical appointments and putting veterans through hell to save a few thousand here and there.

Within the active duty military health care system known as 'Tricare', personnel are being hit with 10% fee increases even as Tricare now covers hormones and offers waivers for "medically necessary gender affirming surgery". There have been over 250 transgender surgical procedures which have cost millions of dollars and deprived genuinely sick people of care.

It's not just active duty military personnel at risk of dangerous, unproven and permanently damaging procedures and medications, but also their family members.

In the final year of the Obama administration, the doors were thrown open to "gender affirming care" for vulnerable children and teens from military families resulting in a quadrupling of the numbers of patients: many of them teenage girls who are at the worst risk of being mutilated.

There were 500 children as young as 10 years old who were potentially subjected to indoctrination leading them to dangerous hormones and procedures that could destroy their lives.

Rather than fighting our enemies and healing our troops, the military health care system for both active duty personnel and veterans had been warped into serving woke sexual identity politics.

The Department of Defense even dedicated $1.1 million to studying prostate cancer in transgender 'women'.

The DOD's promotion of transgender indoctrination is particularly destructive during a time when active duty personnel and veterans are suffering record rates of suicide and mental illness. Pushing them toward an identity and its associated procedures that have been shown to increase, rather than decrease, symptoms of mental illness and suicide rates is unforgivable.

The Biden administration has made identity politics into its north star and disloyal military brass have put that agenda ahead of warfighting capabilities, military readiness and the welfare of the troops. While there's no money to provide cancer treatments for veterans at the VA, there's plenty of money for hormones, fake breasts and transgender counseling sessions.

Veterans may have to wait months for an appointment to treat urgent medical problems, but appointments for transgender counseling are fast tracked as medically necessary. Active duty personnel are being hit with more Tricare fee hikes at a time when military salaries are not keeping up with the inflationary cost of living, but someone has to pay for the hormones.

Biden and his disloyal military brass have betrayed the country at every opportunity. They have lost wars, empowered enemies and undermined America. They have taken the military hostage to promote abortion and they are killing active duty personnel and veterans through their obsession with transgender identity politics.

Our veterans and active duty military personnel deserve the best. Instead they and their families are being treated like guinea pigs for a social experiment being performed on the country.
 

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