US Biolabs In the Ukraine

[Tiamat]

The idea of infecting birds with disease to spread around is as old as biological warfare. Studies and theories were made on it back in WW1 and Interwar not to mention WW2 and the Japanese Gamer House in Manchuria known as Unit 731. But no one has ever put it in action because it's not only really hard to control it also invites complete fucking hell onto you as you are pretty much giving anyone who gets a single citizen sick a casus beli to push your shit in. Not to mention the treaties and whatnot.

Oh, it is indeed an old idea that's been well researched for millenia, and with an obvious list of problems as you mentioned.

Personally, I would use infected furries on the local populace. Both cuddly, and terrifying all at the same time.

 

[Captain X]

Look, the real fucking shame of this whole situation is that Biden's administration is such a five alarm dumpster fire of gaslighting and just straight lies; that the fucking Russians somehow look like damn beacons of truth and disclosure. The Whitehouse has lied so long and so hard about so many things the last couple years, and are such flaming incompetents that I'm ready to give literally anyone else the benefit of the doubt.

Yeah, because the Russians haven't been dishonest about any of this at all, have they?

 

[Arch Dornan]

Yeah, because the Russians haven't been dishonest about any of this at all, have they?

Governments past, present and future will be lying to us all the time for something although the presence of US offshoring biolabs isn't surprising.

 

[Cherico]

Governments past, present and future will be lying to us all the time for something although the presence of US offshoring biolabs isn't surprising.

I'm actually not upset about the sleasy bio weapons research I'm upset that were outsourcing that stuff this is the kind of shit you keep at home

 

[Arch Dornan]

I'm actually not upset about the sleasy bio weapons research I'm upset that were outsourcing that stuff this is the kind of shit you keep at home

It's either the glowie or the pencil pusher who thought it would be cheaper and would bypass the red tape for that to happen. Comes with being a global superpower and you get this.

 

[Cherico]

It's either the glowie or the pencil pusher who thought it would be cheaper and would bypass the red tape for that to happen. Comes with being a global superpower and you get this.

My money is on pencil Pusher

 

[Tiamat]

These articles refer to the bio labs in Ukraine everyone is talking about. Worth a read, they're actually old Soviet Bio Labs that the Defense Threat Reduction Agency were assisting the Ukrainian government in getting modernized. Not exactly a secret, either.

Threat Reduction Program Extends Reach to Ukrainian Biological Facilities | Arms Control Association

www.armscontrol.org

Biological Threat Reduction Program

The U.S. Department of Defense’s Biological Threat Reduction Program collaborates with partner countries to counter the threat of outbreaks (deliberate,

ua.usembassy.gov

E7: Ukraine | Biosecurity Challenges of the Global Expansion of High-Containment Biological Laboratories: Summary of a Workshop | The National Academies Press

Read chapter E7: Ukraine: During July 10-13, 2011, 68 participants from 32 countries gathered in Istanbul, Turkey for a workshop organized by the United S...

www.nap.edu

 

[Sobek]

 

[Zachowon]

I like how when it Is found out there sre old Soviet ones no one comments snd just chim3s in saying ot is US built ones..

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

I like how when it Is found out there sre old Soviet ones no one comments snd just chim3s in saying ot is US built ones..

I didn't know scientists of the soviet union still live and are capable of operating modern research tools.

 

[Zachowon]

I didn't know scientists of the soviet union still live and are capable of operating modern research tools.

They were being modernized by the US to be up to date so we don't have a Wuhan with a random dris3se being researched

 

[GoldRanger]

More proof the USA was cooking something unhealthy in Ukraine.

"The Russians are extremely careful about credibility" hahahahaHAHA! The Russians are pathological but shitty liars, they're caught in a lie like once a month on average during the last decade.

 

[Agent23]

"The Russians are extremely careful about credibility" hahahahaHAHA! The Russians are pathological but shitty liars, they're caught in a lie like once a month on average during the last decade.

Yeah, sure, because they have pushed shit like the Ghost of Kiev...oh, wait, that was the Ukrainians.
And it isn't like a high ranking US official didn't didn't just confirm that there were dangerous, US-funded biolabs in Ukraine or anything...
...oh, no...wait...

 

[GoldRanger]

When I first heard mention of American “biological warfare labs” in Ukraine, it was a video on Regis Tremblay’s channel (American expat living in Yalta) and it seemed like fringe bait. Oh well, now it’s been confirmed straight from the horse’s mouth. What other dirty little secrets will be aired?

"Biological research facility" != "Biological WARFARE lab".

For fucks sake, people, stop with the hysterionics.

 

[GoldRanger]

Yeah, sure, because they have pushed shit like the Ghost of Kiev...oh, wait, that was the Ukrainians.
And it isn't like a high ranking US official didn't didn't just confirm that there were dangerous, US-funded biolabs in Ukraine or anything...
...oh, no...wait...

Ghost of Kiev is standard wartime propaganda to lift morale, nothing remarkable. When Russians lie (which is often) they lie regarding actual important shit on an international level. Such as Putin saying there's not going to be any invasion of Ukraine, not a chance, just days before it happened, but we conveniently memory holed this right?

 

[Agent23]

Ghost of Kiev is standard wartime propaganda to lift morale, nothing remarkable. When Russians lie (which is often) they lie regarding actual important shit on an international level. Such as Putin saying there's not going to be any invasion of Ukraine, not a chance, just days before it happened, but we conveniently memory holed this right?

This thread is about US-funded biolabs in Ukraine.

There are US-funded biolabs in Ukraine.

Moreover, the fact that the USA is in contact with the Ukraininas and trying to help them destroy stuff at those biolabs before the Russians can get their hands on them is an admission of guilt.

Keep trying to shift golaposts and whataboutising though.

 

[GoldRanger]

This thread is about US-funded biolabs in Ukraine.

There are US-funded biolabs in Ukraine.

Moreover, the fact that the USA is in contact with the Ukraininas and trying to help them destroy stuff at those biolabs before the Russians can get their hands on them is an admission of guilt.

Keep trying to shift golaposts and whataboutising though.

"Shifting the goalposts" yeah sure, the specific Russian accusation was biological WEAPONS. A "biolab" could be a cancer research facility for all we know, and destroying it means nothing, for all we know they don't want their patented treatments disclosed and lose money. Nothing about this is shifting any goals, and nothing that was said proves Russia's accusations.

 

[Agent23]

"Shifting the goalposts" yeah sure, the specific Russian accusation was biological WEAPONS. A "biolab" could be a cancer research facility for all we know, and destroying it means nothing, for all we know they don't want their patented treatments disclosed and lose money. Nothing about this is shifting any goals, and nothing that was said proves Russia's accusations.

Oh, so the Ukrainian and US governments would be in a hurry to destroy a cancer research facility?

Yeah, that makes sense, after all Brandon is most beloved leader, ever.

 

[Sobek]

You people are talking through each other, not to each other.

This entire debacle comes from the fact there are Biolabs in Ukraine that the USA imediatly went to hide the existence of when the war began, and Russia seized on it for propaganda.

You can argue the reasons for them and what they are actually doing, but trying to defend from Russian lies by spewing more lies helps no one and only makes the Russians look better by comparison.

What the US should be doing is being honest and said from the start that these labs exist, make the distinction that Russian claims about the purpose of the facilities is what was propaganda and not the existence of the labs themselves. That would have saved a lot of face and allowed people more calm.

Except that is not what they did. They lied hard, and are now backpedaling. And making it look worse by constantly implying Russia is gonna pull a false flag because the trust in western media and institutions sure is high enough for people to take that threat seriously after so many straight up lies right?

 

[Agent23]

You people are talking through each other, not to each other.

This entire debacle comes from the fact there are Biolabs in Ukraine that the USA imediatly went to hide the existence of when the war began, and Russia seized on it for propaganda.

You can argue the reasons for them and what they are actually doing, but trying to defend from Russian lies by spewing more lies helps no one and only makes the Russians look better by comparison.

What the US should be doing is being honest and said from the start that these labs exist, make the distinction that Russian claims about the purpose of the facilities is what was propaganda and not the existence of the labs themselves. That would have saved a lot of face and allowed people more calm.

Except that is not what they did. They lied hard, and are now backpedaling. And making it look worse by constantly implying Russia is gonna pull a false flag because the trust in western media and institutions sure is high enough for people to take that threat seriously after so many straight up lies right?

When you try to hide something from a potential enemy, then you try to destroy it when that potential enemy is about to get his hands on it, well, that "something" looks more and more incriminating.

A picture is worth a thousand words, and the face of Swineland when she was asked that question definitely told me she is afraid of something.

The White House's game-playing denials of bio labs in Ukraine
Glenn thinks so, too.
He also covers the 2001 anthrax attacks.