namar13766
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One of the things people will have to keep in mind about Clancyverse war technological research and development is that they’re neither limited by a shortage of researchers and infrastructure like the Inner Sphere nor Warriors not wanting to ruin their way of life like the Clans.
The Clans took 120 years, from the moment Strana Mechty was colonized, to invent 80% of their armaments as seen in 3050. Not only that, ATMs & Heavy Lasers had been 'sat on' by the Scientist Caste since the early-2900s because the Warrior caste didn't want them. Because they were too paradigm breaking for their honor code:
The Heavy Laser breaks the mold for lights, in that new trainees in their 1st Trial of Position could bumrush an opponent, and pull the trigger, and have extremely high odds of winning. Even if the trainee has crap piloting skills.
ATMs outrange anything on the field that isn't a an AC2/LBX2 plinking, and get horrifically nastier if you get close, and hit hard enough to force an opponent to close to a range that is dictated by the ATM user.
For that matter, ProtoMechs had been in secret development since 2970 or abouts.
Remember, the Improved ER PPC the Wolverines developed was created while Nicky was still alive, and the modern Clan version came out immediately after his death.
That's all within 40 years of the Clans' creation.
Wars of Reaving goes occasionally into detail that due to the various Clans' Warrior castes not wanting something that would rock the boat too much, there were/are hundreds of weapon variations of things the Scientists/Society had tucked away. Throwaway lines from that whole event about various 'rejected' items that sounded like an ER version of a VSPL, a scatter laser, and the infamous Railgun. Ferro-Lamellor for Mechs was available in 2800...but it had originally been prototyped for conventional vehicles so nobody (outside Hell's Horse, maybe, and they didn't invent it, so never knew of it) wanted it, so it got sat on for decades. And all of those had gathered dust for upwards of half a century or even mutliple centuries.
So @Spartan303, what, if any, are going to be the hard limits on what the Clancyverse will develop from the knowledge of the Minnesota Tribe?
The Clans took 120 years, from the moment Strana Mechty was colonized, to invent 80% of their armaments as seen in 3050. Not only that, ATMs & Heavy Lasers had been 'sat on' by the Scientist Caste since the early-2900s because the Warrior caste didn't want them. Because they were too paradigm breaking for their honor code:
The Heavy Laser breaks the mold for lights, in that new trainees in their 1st Trial of Position could bumrush an opponent, and pull the trigger, and have extremely high odds of winning. Even if the trainee has crap piloting skills.
ATMs outrange anything on the field that isn't a an AC2/LBX2 plinking, and get horrifically nastier if you get close, and hit hard enough to force an opponent to close to a range that is dictated by the ATM user.
For that matter, ProtoMechs had been in secret development since 2970 or abouts.
Remember, the Improved ER PPC the Wolverines developed was created while Nicky was still alive, and the modern Clan version came out immediately after his death.
That's all within 40 years of the Clans' creation.
Wars of Reaving goes occasionally into detail that due to the various Clans' Warrior castes not wanting something that would rock the boat too much, there were/are hundreds of weapon variations of things the Scientists/Society had tucked away. Throwaway lines from that whole event about various 'rejected' items that sounded like an ER version of a VSPL, a scatter laser, and the infamous Railgun. Ferro-Lamellor for Mechs was available in 2800...but it had originally been prototyped for conventional vehicles so nobody (outside Hell's Horse, maybe, and they didn't invent it, so never knew of it) wanted it, so it got sat on for decades. And all of those had gathered dust for upwards of half a century or even mutliple centuries.
So @Spartan303, what, if any, are going to be the hard limits on what the Clancyverse will develop from the knowledge of the Minnesota Tribe?