Alternate History The War to End All (Human) Wars

Eparkhos

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I don't think this is against the rules, and as this story is both OC fictional material and AH, I'm putting it in two forums. As before, please let me know what you think of this so I can stop or go forward.
 

stevep

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Interesting and distinctly worrying. Not sure if the world at the time can do anything about that left of technological superiority, at least in open warfare. However it sounds like their resources are relatively limited.

It could be their intelligence is as well IF that is their primary vessel as that's a rather odd place to make their 1st landing. If its just a sub-unit and the big ship is still up there, which I fear is more likely then there is likely to be a lot worse happening, quite possibly around the world. Not sure if the 5 figures in the last chapter are 'marines' in armour or some sort of machines but either way they seem to be very lethal.
 

Eparkhos

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Interesting and distinctly worrying. Not sure if the world at the time can do anything about that left of technological superiority, at least in open warfare. However it sounds like their resources are relatively limited.

It could be their intelligence is as well IF that is their primary vessel as that's a rather odd place to make their 1st landing. If its just a sub-unit and the big ship is still up there, which I fear is more likely then there is likely to be a lot worse happening, quite possibly around the world. Not sure if the 5 figures in the last chapter are 'marines' in armour or some sort of machines but either way they seem to be very lethal.
Glad you're following this one too.

The craft which have been seen are in fact just scouting craft. The Jedzans are many things--vicious bastards, for one--but they aren't stupid. The transport ship is parked at Lagrange Point 3, safely positioned 2 AU from Earth directly through the Sun. There are twelve of the 'platter' dropships, and each carries six assault craft, which in turn carry a half-dozen or so stethric, and a few other types which I'll keep secret for now.

The figures in the last chapter are stethric, which are essentially cyborgs. As you'll soon see, the Jedzans do quite a lot of genetic engineering and the like, and one of their vassal species was by-and-large morphed into ideal, heavily-augmented foot soldiers.
 

stevep

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Ah I was wondering why the aliens were making their existence known in such a fashion rather than say some broadcast demanding submission, probably accompanied by the destruction of a capital or three to make clear their power? Mind you the sheer backwardness of human communications, with radio still in its infancy would make that more difficult as well.

I wish they were as stupid as Turtledove's lizards but that would be too much to hope for. Especially with the lower level of technology and the fact it sounds like their going to hit the main centres of economic and technological power very had this is going to be extremely nasty. Sounds like the US may escape large scale attack for the moment but looks like everybody's going to suffer. And that both major river valleys in China are going to be under new 'ownership' shortly, although that could be a challenge for all involved.

If their not too brutal, at least initially, there are plenty of opportunities for finding unhappy subjects across most of the world. :(

Of course that reference to an ancient "Ullian lifeboat" is interesting. Because it mentions a 3rd race, gives an hint of a prior contact with aliens and given we're talking about very advance - technologically anyway - that could be a very large object, by human standards. I.e. is it actually one of the Martian moons?
 

Eparkhos

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Ah I was wondering why the aliens were making their existence known in such a fashion rather than say some broadcast demanding submission, probably accompanied by the destruction of a capital or three to make clear their power? Mind you the sheer backwardness of human communications, with radio still in its infancy would make that more difficult as well.

I wish they were as stupid as Turtledove's lizards but that would be too much to hope for. Especially with the lower level of technology and the fact it sounds like their going to hit the main centres of economic and technological power very had this is going to be extremely nasty. Sounds like the US may escape large scale attack for the moment but looks like everybody's going to suffer. And that both major river valleys in China are going to be under new 'ownership' shortly, although that could be a challenge for all involved.

If their not too brutal, at least initially, there are plenty of opportunities for finding unhappy subjects across most of the world. :(

Of course that reference to an ancient "Ullian lifeboat" is interesting. Because it mentions a 3rd race, gives an hint of a prior contact with aliens and given we're talking about very advance - technologically anyway - that could be a very large object, by human standards. I.e. is it actually one of the Martian moons?
First of all, thanks for commenting.

One of the big things I'm trying to reflect in this story is that any alien species advanced enough to attack Earth wouldn't be stupid, so while the Jedzans will think differently than the humans would, they aren't The Race levels of idiotic. So yes, the Jedzans will be coming down on pretty much every city in Europe, which will almost certainly cripple human resistance in one blow, although the US and Japan will be sheltered for a little bit.

I should also note that the two population belts referred to the Yangtze and Ganges Plain, and if the Jedzans aren't too blatant about their plans they should be able to take them both fairly easily. Ditto with the various colonial empires.

Finally, I slipped up on the whole 'Ullian' part, as I meant to put 'Alressim'. But no, the aliens haven't had prior contact with the humans. Although, some items floating around in space are entirely possible (hint hint).

Next update should be out soon.
 

stevep

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First of all, thanks for commenting.

One of the big things I'm trying to reflect in this story is that any alien species advanced enough to attack Earth wouldn't be stupid, so while the Jedzans will think differently than the humans would, they aren't The Race levels of idiotic. So yes, the Jedzans will be coming down on pretty much every city in Europe, which will almost certainly cripple human resistance in one blow, although the US and Japan will be sheltered for a little bit.

I should also note that the two population belts referred to the Yangtze and Ganges Plain, and if the Jedzans aren't too blatant about their plans they should be able to take them both fairly easily. Ditto with the various colonial empires.

Finally, I slipped up on the whole 'Ullian' part, as I meant to put 'Alressim'. But no, the aliens haven't had prior contact with the humans. Although, some items floating around in space are entirely possible (hint hint).

Next update should be out soon.

Ouch that's going to be very bad for Europe. China might welcome their new overlords at 1st but suspect they will wear out their welcome pretty soon. Ditto with India unless the Jedzans are willing to offer the Indians at least as much as Britain was giving them already, which I suspect not by the description. Also be interested to see how religious issues are handled.

Are Jedzans, M’kazi, Ullian and Alressim from some game or novel series or something? They didn't mean anything to me and a quick look on Wiki and Google don't seem to show anything. Was assuming they were your own invention initially.

The US and Japan will get an early break but are likely to get attention later. Unless their very lucky and the Jedzan have used up all their heavy stuff by then.

This is going to be very dark for everybody I fear. Until we can start taking down some of their hopefully very limited units humanity will have very little we can do. A lot might depend on the nature of those "prefabbed cultivation machines ". If their involved in producing new troops then we can't afford to have them get set up. If their to produce say some vital items that they need - obvious equivalent would be the drug the Jem'Hadar need in the Star Trek series DS9 - then that might be a game changer. With the huge tech advantage the aliens have even with very few numbers we need something else its going to take possibly decades to wear them down. Plus by what I read of their nature then I suspect if they were losing them might go for a 'burnt earth' ending.
 

stevep

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Eparkhos

Ouch that got very nasty very fast. :mad: :eek: Not sure why they escalated so quickly to devastate most/all of London since they had only made their call for surrender the same day? Asquith obviously hadn't heard anything about it. Have other major cities been similarly destroyed?


One point with the 1st of the two posts. A British soldier in WWI would have missed by a mile not a kilo. ;)

No problem with not replying quickly. I tend to long replies anyway as I think over possibilities and much rather you write the chapters that reply in detail to what I ramble on about.

Steve
 

ATP

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In short term they win.In long term everybody,including those who start serve them,would wait for the moment when they could kill them.
 

stevep

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Eparkhos

One thing I forgot to ask. Those dinos who appeared on the western front - or near it. Are they they 'stethric' mentioned in the opening post? If so they sound tough but potentially vulnerable to western arms in suitable situations, not to mention possibly mines and other traps. However would depend as well on how controllable they are and how fast they breed.

Steve
 

Eparkhos

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Sorry for the long delay and any low-quality writing, I'm quite sick. I'll do responses tomorrow, longer update to follow as well.
 

ATP

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Poor Rasputin,and poot Petersburg.Well,this time,at least,Rasputin would die quickly.
 

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