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The ST cast generally wasn’t very good honestly.

Like I don’t think any of them were particularly memorable, charismatic, or appealing.

The best was Driver but that’s a low bar.
 
The ST cast generally wasn’t very good honestly.

Like I don’t think any of them were particularly memorable, charismatic, or appealing.

The best was Driver but that’s a low bar.

I'm not sure that's the case. Aside from Ford, who was almost visably counting the minutes left until he dies, everyone in the cast seems to have been doing thier best, and in other works they've done really well. Boyega was awesome in pacific rim, for example.

Laura Dern did a great job playing Holdo and very convincingly played the role of the film's villian and easily convinced the audience she was actually a traitor to the rebellion. It's not her fault the story and script were stupid.

Even Kelly Marie Tran did a good job as far as I can tell. Sure, most of what she did was insane, but again, she's just following the script.

I think the only really bad actor was Dominic Monaghan, who was way too enthused in all his lines. You should not sound happy when suggesting the best tactical opition is a mass sucide attack.
 
Eh I disagree. Daisy Ridley’s acting was pretty limited, her attempts at conveying emotion are laughably unbelievable. Driver does the angsts bad boy villain passably well. Boyega doesn’t really do much, and neither does whoever player Poe.

Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill give rather staid performances too.
 


Free to finally speak his mind.


“I’m the only cast member who had their own unique experience of that franchise based on their race. Let’s just leave it like that. It makes you angry with a process like that. It makes you much more militant; it changes you. Because you realize, ‘I got given this opportunity but I’m in an industry that wasn’t even ready for me.’”

“Nobody else in the cast had people saying they were going to boycott the movie because [they were in it]. Nobody else had the uproar and death threats sent to their Instagram DMs and social media, saying, ‘Black this and black that and you shouldn’t be a Stormtrooper.’ Nobody else had that experience. But yet people are surprised that I’m this way. That’s my frustration.”

“[W]hat I would say to Disney is do not bring out a Black character, market them to be much more important in the franchise than they are and then have them pushed to the side. It’s not good. I’ll say it straight up. Like, you guys knew what to do with Daisy Ridley, you knew what to do with Adam Driver. You knew what to do with these other people, but when it came to Kelly Marie Tran, when it came to John Boyega, you know fuck all. So what do you want me to say? What they want you to say is, ‘I enjoyed being a part of it. It was a great experience…’ Nah, nah, nah. I’ll take that deal when it’s a great experience. They gave all the nuance to Adam Driver, all the nuance to Daisy Ridley. Let’s be honest. Daisy knows this. Adam knows this. Everybody knows. I’m not exposing anything.”

Poor guy. *plays a little violin*
 
I never understood the hate for a black stormtrooper. Oscar Issac did a great job as a hot shot pilot. He really played his character well.

So..who had more emotions, Ridley or Hayden?
 
He was the one redeeming feature of the first sequil. The sexist bitch notice that people liked him, and decided to turn him into a minstrel show for the next two movies.
I still liked him in TLJ and TRoS. The last he was pretty good in
 
I felt like Boyega did an excellent job for what he had. He just got handed a terrible position from movie 2 onward, possibly because Disney didn't want a black person ruining their sweet sweet Chinabux (See also his picture shrinking in Chinese posters).

Daisy Ridley I feel kinda accidentally typecast herself. She did a great job of being a girl completely out of her depth in the first movie. The problem is her default expression is still "Deer in the headlights" towards the end of movie 3 when she should have just a touch more confidence and experience.

Adam Diver practically carried the movies. He was the only one in the prequels to both have a well defined role and also had the chops to do it, plus his role didn't change between movies. I feel for the actor, it couldn't have been easy playing a part where you fail at every single thing you set out to do for three movies straight and then get yeeted.

Oscar Isaacs... I didn't care for him. I think that's more personal opinion and the fact that I seem to instinctively dislike his appearance rather than any lack of skill on his part, though he like most of the cast seemed to get hosed by what he was handed to do.
 
I've not seen Boyega in anything else, but still suspect his role suffered from neglect or intentionally being written as a C3PO esque comedy part rather than a serious one it deserved. Thus his bait and switch from jedi status and janitorial past jobs that come up in the first two movies as plot points (dunnow if the third carries on that pattern).

Driver definitely seemed to be doing a good job with what he was given. Ditto for whoever the actor was for Hux--who also seemed like Boyega to suffer from the part being comedic rather than anything else. And I actually think Hamill acted his part very well--ive issues with the part again, but Hamill seemed to at least be enjoying the role (as opposed to Ford, who seemed more reserved or tired in general--though part of that may also have been thd character).

Probably the best acting in my opinion came from the blink and miss-him part of Captain Canady, the dreadnought CO in the second film. Mark Jones played a very good 'done with all of this bullshit on my side and all the MFing rebels on our MFing planet' Imperal military officer very well. It's too bad he gets immediately thrown away--he'd have made a more interesting durantogonist (i think it's called) to Kylo Ren than Hux did.
 
“we can’t have intimidating villains because that would make fascism cool”.

>something ST defenders have unironically said.

The EU had plenty of villains with menace and presence. I can not think of a single antagonist in the old EU that is not superior to the FO.
 
Hell, steal a page from the stuff they nuked. Have the honest to goodness Sith return. What if there was another sect that was waiting for the Jedi and the Baneites to nuke themselves? Or have a droid rebellion.

Droids want their freedom and will do what they have too to get it. Including reactivating the factories from the Clone Wars.
 

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