Star Trek STAR TREK: THE LAST STARSHIP......

MikeKozlowski

Fear God But Dread Naught
Kirk trotted down the corridor, weaving through the other shuttle passengers and shooting a quick glance at his wrist chrono only to discover for the fourth time in the last couple minutes that he was, indeed, still late. Half turning, half skidding around one final corner, Kirk saw the holosign that said



17 DELTA
DEPARTING
SSM
ID REQUIRED
The wisdom of advertising a Special Shuttle Mission was lost to Jim Kirk, but on the other hand there were plenty of SSMs launching from here every day - VIP transports, special maintenance teams, couriers, even photo opportunities. One more, he considered, probably didn’t stand out.

The shuttle from Blue Ridge, tucked neatly into the ops bay, was one of their standard personnel shuttles, gleaming white and christened BIG MEADOWS in perfect 304mm Starfleet Standard font, sitting quietly three pads down from everyone else in the busy terminal. Kirk slowed to a more or less dignified, purposeful walk as he came up to the Security CPO and showed his ID. A quick scan, the smile and salute, and Kirk ducked into the open hatch. Everyone was there and looked up as he came in, but only Scotty held his gaze for a moment with a mildly disapproving look. Sitting down next to Spock, Kirk quickly buckled in and sat back to catch his breath.

The pilot was polite and professional, giving his safety briefing the way he clearly had several hundred times before and blessedly unimpressed with his passengers. Just as well, Kirk thought as the shuttle lifted off with a bump, then smoothly accelerated away with a slow, steady increase in gees. Almost involuntarily, Kirk closed his eyes and relaxed, the lost night’s rest still weighing on him. His brain reflexively started to run through all the things he’d have to do once he got aboard, and just as suddenly remembered - he wasn’t in command this trip. Someone else had the conn this time; someone else had all the responsibility.

Now that was an odd feeling. It was one thing to let someone else ferry you around for a couple hours in a shuttle or hopper, but…dear Lord, how long had it been? Back on the Farragut. A lifetime ago.

They cruised northwest across the Pacific, passing hoppers and other shuttles in silence, flashing anti-collision lights and beacons tracing their paths across a black velvet backdrop. The NorthAm Pacific coast glided smoothly below, greens and browns and whites all discreetly veiled by clouds that slid past to reveal the Aleutians, and then Siberia and the lush forests that seemed to roll out forever beneath them - and then a bump as the reaction motors forward fired, and Kirk looked up and saw a blue-silver mushroom shape starting to grow in the forward windscreen.

The speakers buzzed slightly and the pilot announced, “Gentlemen, we are about ten minutes out from Irktusk Station, please secure your seats, buckle in, and we will be landing aboard Blue Ridge through the aft hangar bay. Thank you.”

The usual rustling of beings and gear, the whine of seat servomotors, the rattle of seat harnesses, and the Big Meadows began to slide obliquely to the right, now pointed towards a drydock a few kilometers past the station - reflecting a little bit of sun and star, but unusually dark. Normally, the drydocks were brightly lit - to help the repair and maintenance crews mostly, but otherwise to keep someone from hitting them and ruining their day - but this one was almost…hiding. The perimeter lights were on, and there were quite a few interior lights from the ship inside coming into view, but the overall effect was as if the ship inside really didn’t want to be seen. Scotty caught it too, leaning across the aisle and asking, “There really is a ship in there, I hope…”

Spock was still looking at the screen on his PADD as he replied, “It seems reasonable that someone has decided that there is no need to call any more attention to our departure than absolutely necessary. Of course, any attempt to hide a vessel coming in at seven hundred and twelve thousand, five hundred metric tons, may be considered ever so slightly futile to begin with.”

“Bothers me a little,”, McCoy said.

Kirk leaned forward to see McCoy. “Why’s that, Bones?”

McCoy folded his arms with a dubious look. “A ship that dark usually has something wrong.”


It seemed to be only a few heartbeats, and they were lined up with the drydock. Blue Ridge was clearly inside now, her aft shuttle bay doors opened and the brightly lit interior standing out - a dark gray deck with sequential lights running, first a pulsing blue/white glow that, as they came closer, resolved into a long series of individual lights rolling from the fantail forward. The landing alignment lights - three lights on the outer fantail itself - suddenly snapped on, red-green-red, and the speakers buzzed.

Big Meadows, this is Blue Ridge Approach, call the ball.”

Blue Ridge, Big Meadows copies.” The shuttle rose slightly, skittered slightly to port, and the central green light suddenly became a flare that settled down to a circle with a smaller red bar to each side. “I have the ball.”

Big Meadows, Blue Ridge copies you have the ball. Maintain heading and level, do not reply.”

Blue Ridge was growing in the windshield now, shadows becoming dimly lit shapes that bore a vague resemblance to the Dreadnaught she came from, but with bumps and protrusions going in all directions, the third warp engine standing out above everything else.

“Lord almighty,” Scotty breathed. “She’s a big ‘un, isn’t she?”

Kirk grinned. “I’ve seen prettier.”

There was a bump as they slipped through the atmosphere field across the shuttle bay doors, and Big Meadows reared upwards slightly, then settled gently onto the deck. “Welcome aboard the Blue Ridge, gentlemen. We’ve got some folks waiting for you and to get your baggage sorted out.” With that, the hatch popped open with a hiss of hydraulics and they unbuckled from their seats. Kirk was first out, followed by Spock, Scotty, and McCoy as they stepped down to the deck. Berenice Marchal was standing at parade rest, coming to attention and saluting as Kirk’s feet touched the deck.

“Captain Kirk - gentlemen - welcome aboard. Captain Dillon has asked me to show you to your quarters.”

“Thank you, Commander,” Kirk answered, adding with a smile, “we don’t need anything fancy.”

Marchal smiled back, replying, “As it turns out, we have a full set of flag quarters but no command staff aboard this trip, so Captain Dillon thought you’d like the upgrade to the first class suites.”

“In that case,” McCoy smiled graciously, “it would be rude to turn down the opportunity. Lead on, Commander.”

“With pleasure.” Marchal gestured forward, saying, “We’re going to go forward through the R and R deck, so we can give you the five-credit tour. Through this hatch right here -”

-And they stepped into a literal cathedral of technology, the hull arching a few stories overhead, with galleries lining the sides, dozens of machines - plasma lathes, 3D fabricators, jigs and frames with crew members surrounding each one, the sounds of activity and construction echoing through it. Kirk turned to see Scotty grinning from ear to ear, looking like a kid in a candy store. “I take it you approve, Mister Scott?”

“Aye indeed,” Scotty shot back. “Turn me loose in here long enough and I might never come back. I’ve never seen anything quite like this away from a full dress orbital yard or starbase.”

Marchal laughed back over her shoulder. “Glad you approve, Captain Scott - it’s why we’re here and once we’re underway, you can play down here to your heart’s content.” Scotty’s only reply was a long, appreciative look at all the gear on the R&R deck, and a quiet, “You can count on it, lass….”



It is axiomatic that Klingon life is not quiet. Klingons are - surprisingly - a naturally loud people, and the concept of an ‘inside voice’ does not seem to have developed in their culture. There are several excellent multi-volume works that discuss the many possible reasons for this, but never mind. The Klingon personality is not inclined to silence, the native animal life is raucous - to put it gently - and their technology is much louder than others.

It therefore stood to reason, many centuries ago, that silence could be disturbing. Many a Klingon commander noticed that if the immediate environment was quiet - without sound - their warriors became…well….nervous. This is why Klingon interrogation facilities are as silent as technology and ingenuity can make them - sound absorbing walls and floors, utterly noiseless hatches, and very little conversation allowed outside the interrogation rooms themselves.

All of which made Senior Lieutenant Kast, formerly Security Officer of Imperial Klingon Ship Dragon, very, very nervous. The only sound in the tiny cell was his own breathing, but after a few hours here - and he wasn’t at all sure by this point how long that had been - he was starting to think he could hear his own heartbeat. Not feel, mind you, but hear it.

No. Remain calm. You are a warrior. They know nothing.

Kast tried to stand up, only to discover for the hundredth time that the room was just too low for him to stand up completely…as it was too narrow for him to extend his arms, and the shelf that extended from the rear wall was just too skinny and too short for him to sit or lie comfortably. Kast fought down the urge to scream and pull the shelf from the wall, but -

- The hatch opened with a metallic SNAP. Kast looked at it in confusion for a moment, waiting for someone - something - to show itself, but nothing did.

Remain calm.

Slowly, carefully, with skills and reflexes honed by years of practice and training, Kast carefully stepped through the hatch.

“Good morning, Senior Lieutenant.”

Kast spun to his left, to see a gray haired warrior standing calmly a few feet away. He looked positively benign for a Klingon, a true smile on his face.

But it’s not morning - is it?

“I was beginning to wonder when you would come out.”

“Who are you? Why am I here?”

“I’m afraid you do not ask any questions here, Senior Lieutenant. I do.”

“WHO ARE YOU??”

“The warrior who asks the questions.”

It all sank in to Kast, with the brightness and violence of an unexpected solar flare. He briefly, so briefly it was not worth even noting, considered making a run for it, or going after the warrior.

No.

He knew where he was, and he knew escape was impossible. The only option remaining to him now was -

Honor.

Death, with honor.


Kast straightened to attention and looked the warrior straight in the eyes. “I shall tell you nothing.”

The warrior inclined his head, and smiled once more, a smile that would have warmed the heart of a child, a smile that spoke volumes. He stepped forward, taking Kast by the elbow and turning him towards the long passage that stretched out before them. Patting him on the back, the warrior said gently, “Of course you will.”


To Be Continued….
 

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A nice treat to wake up to.

While you have Kirk and Co., Galactive Saviors, down pat, I'm much more fascinated by your insights into Klingon society.
 

MikeKozlowski

Fear God But Dread Naught
A nice treat to wake up to.

While you have Kirk and Co., Galactive Saviors, down pat, I'm much more fascinated by your insights into Klingon society.

Darth,

I don't think anybody has ever just had the kind of sheer fun that is possible with the Klingon civilization. The trick here is to make whatever you come up with consistent with what we know. It's going to get even more fun, promise. :)

Mike
 

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Darth,

I don't think anybody has ever just had the kind of sheer fun that is possible with the Klingon civilization. The trick here is to make whatever you come up with consistent with what we know. It's going to get even more fun, promise. :)

Mike
Klingons are a fun-loving people. As we saw in TNG, especially during the Klingon Civil War, they work hard and play hard. They party with their friends, they party with their enemies. Live fast and die young is a good Klingon, and, I suspect, if today is to be a good day to die, and a warrior has to be ready to die any minute, then it stands to reason a Klingon has to live every minute he or she gets, to boot.

It's widely commented that Worf is a very dour Klingon. Kruge seems a lot like Worf. He's all brooding anger and jealousy, and very Shakespearian.
 

MikeKozlowski

Fear God But Dread Naught
Klingons are a fun-loving people. As we saw in TNG, especially during the Klingon Civil War, they work hard and play hard. They party with their friends, they party with their enemies. Live fast and die young is a good Klingon, and, I suspect, if today is to be a good day to die, and a warrior has to be ready to die any minute, then it stands to reason a Klingon has to live every minute he or she gets, to boot.

It's widely commented that Worf is a very dour Klingon. Kruge seems a lot like Worf. He's all brooding anger and jealousy, and very Shakespearian.

Funny thing is that as Shakespearian as the Klingons can be, they really aren't too excited about his work - with the exception of Marshal Chang, who can't get enough of him. The main reason for that is that the Klingons would have usually seen through a Shakespeare villain in no time at all and used him for bat'leth practice without all the speeches and posturing - at least, not until it was over and time to make the ritual proclamations of victory. :)

Mike
 

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Funny thing is that as Shakespearian as the Klingons can be, they really aren't too excited about his work - with the exception of Marshal Chang, who can't get enough of him. The main reason for that is that the Klingons would have usually seen through a Shakespeare villain in no time at all and used him for bat'leth practice without all the speeches and posturing - at least, not until it was over and time to make the ritual proclamations of victory. :)

Mike
Depends on the play. The Klingons would probably go for the histories, and Titus Andronicus is bound to be a great hit. The Klingons will also like the contemporary revenge plays, and a lot of the Jacobean blood plays.

The traditional classics probably will not appeal, being too weak and Romulan. Though I suspect there may well be a lot of interest in quoting the sonnets at Klingon women, as they hurl heavy objects.
 
THE LAST STARSHIP 9

MikeKozlowski

Fear God But Dread Naught
...The Flag Quarters on Blue Ridge were what was often referred to as Starfleet Nice - on Earth they would still be considered somewhat basic, but out here they were positively luxurious, and even though Jim Kirk was used to comfortable surroundings on Enterprise this, he had to admit, was pretty good. Real, civilian grade furniture and other odds and ends, and a mural panel up on one wall showing the Shenandoah valley and the Blue Ridge mountains in a series of slowly changing views. When he’d worn stars, Kirk had routinely shipped out in spaces this nice. When he could get out there, he thought with a slightly rueful smile. And he’d hated it. On Enterprise before the refit, he had a slightly larger space than everyone else, and that was just fine. After the refit, it was comparatively huge, but still Spartan enough that you didn’t feel like the odd being out.

The intercom chimed, and Kirk had to search for a moment to find it - ah, the office space off to one side. Took a couple steps to get there plus one long stretch to tap the key. “Kirk here.”

“Jim,” Bones’ voice came through the speaker, “I’ve been in hotels that weren’t this nice.”

Spock’s voice came over the intercom next. “Doctor, the facilities are indeed quite comfortable, but I do in fact wonder if the funds could not have been better spent on operational improvements such as –“

“ - ‘Hae ye SEEN the technical library on this beast? Dear Lord, I could spend a century in there and never see the same journal twice!”


“Gentlemen,” Kirk interrupted with a smile, “please save it for the survey cards when we get done. In the meantime, let’s unpack and I’ll get with Captain Dillon about the briefings when we’re underway. Kirk out.” He’d barely turned away from the intercom when it buzzed again. “Commander Marchal to Captain Kirk.”

No rest for the wicked. “Kirk here, go ahead.”

“Captain, how are your quarters?”

“Four star all the way, Commander, and my staff sends their regards. When do we shove off?”

“In about ten minutes. Would you like to come to the bridge and watch the festivities?”

“A pleasure. On my way.”

“See you then. Marchal out.”

It was easy enough to find his way up, even with Blue Ridge being an order of magnitude bigger than Enterprise. They were in the primary hull, and all one had to do was move in and up. One brief but pleasant detour took him through Blue Ridge’s ‘welcome aboard’ room aft of the bridge, a huge space with massive models of previous ships by that name – a ‘command ship’, whatever that was, of the old US Navy, one of the old UESPA’s first big colony ships, and finally an old Powhatan class escort cruiser from the first Romulan war. Next to them, a display of the ships’ flags – useless in space, but priceless when motivating the crew. And above all of that, a row of official photographs of the ship’s staff and command CPOs, all crowned with the words

WELCOME ABOARD
USS BLUE RIDGE
NCC-2895
Not bad at all, Kirk thought as he strode past. Starfleet had been getting insistent about putting one of these in aboard Enterprise, but Kirk had kept pointing out that if someone was aboard the Big E and didn’t know its history, then they probably had no business being there. With one last hiss a hatch opened, and there he was.

Same basic design as everything else in the fleet, only bigger and roomier, with a smaller one slightly above and behind. Marchal, standing by the command chair, looked up and waved him in. Kirk reflexively looked up at the main viewscreen, now glowing a friendly blue with a StarFleet insignia centered and a smaller insert screen showing the view forward and out of the drydock as WorkBees and shuttles cruised serenely past, and the big stadium lights sat darkened in the dock’s frames.

“So, Captain.” Marchal had stepped beside him as he’d looked at the screen, and Kirk turned to look at her. Certainly squared away, he thought, as any good first officer would be. Attractive enough, too – and Kirk shut that thought down before he went any further. It was one thing on your own ship, but even that had throttled back considerably since the days of the five year missions; as a guest on someone else’s that would be remarkably bad form even for a Galactic hero known for that sort of thing.

Perhaps later, he thought with a forcefully internalized smile. In any event –

“Remarkable ship, Commander. Not familiar though with the facilities up there,” Kirk said as he motioned towards the smaller bridge. Marchal nodded. “That’s the R&R ops center – for ‘repair and replenishment’. When those operations are underway, that’s where we handle them from. StarFleet wanted to make it an ops room down in the engineering hull, but it made a lot more sense to have it where everyone could actually talk to one another. Doubles as a Flag Bridge when we have a staff aboard.”

“Even more people to confuse things when it gets exciting.”

It was Marchal’s turn to smile now. “We’re StarFleet, Captain Kirk, we thrive on confusion. As a matter of fact – “

The simultaneous sounds of a bosun’s whistle, hatch doors opening, and a bellowed, “Captain on the bridge!” got their attention and they turned to see Dan Dillon walk in, taking a look around and settling on Kirk and Marchal, striding over to them with a look of – what, Kirk wondered. Wasn’t confusion. Might have been displeasure.

“Good morning, Captain Kirk. Is everything all right? Hadn’t expected to see you up here.”

Kirk turned on his biggest smile and replied, “Everything’s fine, Captain. Commander Marchal was kind enough to invite me up here to watch departure. It was very gracious of her – feels a little strange not being in the captain’s chair myself.”

Dillon simply looked at Kirk for a heartbeat too long, and an expression that suggested someone had just spilled coffee on his uniform, and Kirk realized at that moment that he wasn’t exactly…welcome on the bridge. Before he could say anything though, Dillon gave him a thin smile and said, “Of course, Captain. Always glad to have guests.” And with that, Dillon stepped off to the captain’s chair, calling over his shoulder, “XO?”

Oh dear.

Marchal straightened her uniform jacket, cleared her throat, and whispered, ‘Excuse me,’ then marched purposefully down to Dillon. Dillon was writing on his PADD as he spoke, his eyes fixed on it, Marchal standing at attention, and although Kirk couldn’t hear what he was saying, he didn’t need to. It would have boiled down to, Do not – do NOT – bring that man on my bridge again unless I tell you to. Got it?

Marchal nodded slightly and said something herself, something else Kirk didn’t really need to hear. He’d been on the receiving end of quiet verbal flayings more than a few times himself back in the day; - Steve Garrovick had been a master of that sort of thing – but the only thing that ever really changed was the why. Dillon said something else, and Marchal executed a perfect about face, then stepped up to the level just above the command chair. Going to parade rest, she called, “Attention all hands, this is the XO, now hear this, now hear this – departure stations, by the numbers!”

The crowd of people all over the bridge was suddenly in motion, the seats at the various stations filled, the murmur of conversation abruptly replaced by calm, purposeful, direct statements between stations and other parts of the ship. Blue Ridge had been dozing – now she was coming to life. Marchal turned to her right and called, “Comm?”

The reply was sharp, confident and efficient. “Comm standing by, XO!”

Marchal nodded slightly. “You’re on, sir.”

Dillon sat up straight in the command chair, hand gripping the side rests for a moment, fingers dancing lightly across the panels and making sure that the drydock crews hadn’t changed anything from when they’d gotten there, and then looked up. “Irktusk Control, this is Blue Ridge Actual. Comm check, please.” A brief pause, then a Russian accent so strong that Kirk reflected it made Chekov sound like he was from New England. “Blue Ridge Actual, this is Tusk Control, we read you five by five.”

“Tusk, we copy five by five, stand by for departure.”

“Blue Ridge Actual, copy. Clearing departure lanes, standing by.”

Dillon looked around the bridge one more time, then raised his right index finger –

Marchal saw it and called, “All stations, sound off!”

“Ops, go!”

“Communications, go!”

“Helm and Nav, go!”

“Engineering is a go!”

“Environmental, green and go!”

“Weps, go!”

“R&R, go!”

“Sciences, go!”

Marchal allowed herself a small smile. Music to her ears. “Captain, all stations
report ready.”

“As it should be, XO, as it should be. Release moorings.”

Kirk felt the gentle thud of the big power and services moorings releasing, and for the first time in days Blue Ridge was on her own, and in her element. Marchal looked over to Engineering, and the duty engineer quickly scanned the board then gave her a thumbs up. “Captain,” Marchal said, “moorings are clear; Blue Ridge is on internal power.”

Kirk watched Dillon for a moment as he looked around his bridge one more time, checked the displays on the command chair, and then looked thoughtful for just a heartbeat. Kirk knew what he was thinking – is everything right? Is there anything I’ve missed? Is there anything I still need to know? The answer to that was easy enough – if you waited till you had definite answers, you’d never leave dockside. You had trained your crew, they in turn knew their jobs and you trusted them. That was the bargain, and both sides understood it. And with that, Dillon settled back in the seat with a satisfied expression on his face and said, “Tusk Control, Blue Ridge Actual, we are clear of moorings and are requesting departure clearance.”

“Blue Ridge Actual, Tusk Control, copy. Please stand by.”

Kirk knew what was going on there too – one last sweep of the sensors, one last look around to make sure nobody livened up the Blue Ridge’s day by running into them as they left drydock. More than a few starships had enjoyed very short voyages that way, and all captains and ops techs endeavored to make sure it didn’t happen to them. Not more than a heartbeat then, and the speakers announced, “Blue Ridge Actual, this is Tusk Control. You are cleared for departure and one orbit for systems check, deep space insertion at your discretion. Please use departure lane four; good luck and safe voyage.”

Now and only now did Dillon finally smile. “Tusk Control, this is Blue Ridge Actual, confirming departure lane four, single orbit for systems check. Thank you. Helm – take us out, thrusters only.”

“Aye aye, sir, thrusters to ten percent.” There was a slight bump as the thrusters kicked in, and Kirk felt a gentle push forward, then Blue Ridge began to move – imperceptibly at first, then visibly as the main viewscreen came on, showing the view directly forward as Blue Ridge crept out of the drydock.

No lights. No dock riggers in hardsuits waving as you glided out. No chatter between the stations and Tusk Control. Just quiet and being as inconspicuous as possible. Bones nailed it, Kirk thought. It feels wrong.
 

Kujo

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good 'slice of life' chapter and set up for the 'jump to warp', Marchal and Dillon had a bit of Counseling going on (see the form later :) ) as it appears Dillon wanted Kirk and likely the rest of his team to stay in their rooms until needed... Guess there will be tension on the Blue Ridge...

Thank you great chapter!
 

MikeKozlowski

Fear God But Dread Naught
good 'slice of life' chapter and set up for the 'jump to warp', Marchal and Dillon had a bit of Counseling going on (see the form later :) ) as it appears Dillon wanted Kirk and likely the rest of his team to stay in their rooms until needed... Guess there will be tension on the Blue Ridge...

Thank you great chapter!

Kujo,

Thank you very much, it's appreciated!

Mike
 
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I definitely got the sense that Marchal is from the “Kirk is a legend” generation and Dillon just on the other side of the “Kirk is a problem” cutoff...
 

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“Admiral James T Killed his Flag Captain and Took Over”.
Killing the flag captain is the price of doing business. Stealing a man's ship is not.

No captain is really going to feel comfortable with Kirk on their bridge with that as his rep. Spock and Kirk expressly discuss that in Wrath of Khan.

Also, ENTERPRISE and BLUE RIDGE are shes, not its.
 

MikeKozlowski

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Captain General, Eric, and Darth -

Thanks very much for your thoughts - something I've tried to touch on in TLS is what happens when a Legend not only has to deal with his past, but has to start accepting that the world is moving on. Kirk may be a Galactic Hero, but he had to do some...well, questionable things in the process, and it's starting to catch up with him.
Not sure if anyone here saw the re-release of ST:TMP last month, but it was kind of interesting - from my point of view, Will Decker never should have been relieved. He seemed to have had a better grasp of things than Kirk did all the way through the movie, and Kirk didn't quite seem to catch up until almost the end of the movie. He got the Big Chair back because his ego wouldn't let him on a ship called Enterprise without him in it, and his reputation began to suffer from that point on. Jim Kirk shows up on your bridge? Uh-uh, bad juju, baby.
He might yet save the Federation a couple more times, but at the time TMP takes place, the generation that ran Starfleet is starting to figure out that maybe a Hero has limits, and though he may have a rock-star rep with the JOs and enlisted force, his peers and superiors know damned well that now two Deckers ended up dead in StarFleet service, and Jim Kirk was present for both. Dan Dillon would have come up through the Engineering side of the house (Engineers make damned good Captains, but most are way too happy in their engine rooms to start walking up the Command track) and he would have heard the stories, and made his own decisions. If Beri Marchal had a couple of Kirk's former JOs as instructors and mentors, she might have come to different conclusions.

Put another way...human nature won't have changed that much in the TrekVerse. :)

Mike
 
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@MikeKozlowski some people on the moron side of the spectrum may think it has, but no, it definitely hasn't, and especially among the people who keep the fleet ticking. You're right, to any other Captain, Kirk is bad juju.
 

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@MikeKozlowski some people on the moron side of the spectrum may think it has, but no, it definitely hasn't, and especially among the people who keep the fleet ticking. You're right, to any other Captain, Kirk is bad juju.
Not just Kirk. ANY officer senior to you on the bridge of your ship is bad juju. It is VERY hard to lay off when you are Command Material, and nobody likes being second guessed. That is especially true in a service like Star Fleet, where admirals, commodores, ambassadors and high commissioners do feel they get to usurp a man's ship when the whim takes them.

A ship can only have one master, and that is her captain. Even if he or she is an ensign, a CPO, or a twelve year old on a Sunfish. Your ship is your ship, and a senior officer is a threat to steal your love.
 

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Captain General, Eric, and Darth -

Thanks very much for your thoughts - something I've tried to touch on in TLS is what happens when a Legend not only has to deal with his past, but has to start accepting that the world is moving on. Kirk may be a Galactic Hero, but he had to do some...well, questionable things in the process, and it's starting to catch up with him.
Not sure if anyone here saw the re-release of ST:TMP last month, but it was kind of interesting - from my point of view, Will Decker never should have been relieved. He seemed to have had a better grasp of things than Kirk did all the way through the movie, and Kirk didn't quite seem to catch up until almost the end of the movie. He got the Big Chair back because his ego wouldn't let him on a ship called Enterprise without him in it, and his reputation began to suffer from that point on. Jim Kirk shows up on your bridge? Uh-uh, bad juju, baby.
He might yet save the Federation a couple more times, but at the time TMP takes place, the generation that ran Starfleet is starting to figure out that maybe a Hero has limits, and though he may have a rock-star rep with the JOs and enlisted force, his peers and superiors know damned well that now two Deckers ended up dead in StarFleet service, and Jim Kirk was present for both. Dan Dillon would have come up through the Engineering side of the house (Engineers make damned good Captains, but most are way too happy in their engine rooms to start walking up the Command track) and he would have heard the stories, and made his own decisions. If Beri Marchal had a couple of Kirk's former JOs as instructors and mentors, she might have come to different conclusions.

Put another way...human nature won't have changed that much in the TrekVerse. :)

Mike
I have been watching through TMP the last few nights. You're absolutely right that Decker had a better grip on the ship. But he did not have a better grip on the people or the senior staff. Scott, Uhura, Chekov and Sulu were all quite happy to have Kirk back. The pod ride with Scott showed the engineer had some reservations about Decker. Similarly, Sulu, Chekov and Uhura never really protested the relief of their captain. Which, to me, suggests Decker never really had the crew bond around him during his tenure. Even when Kirk makes major mistakes - such as showing the crew the destruction of a Klingon CruDiv and Epsilon IX comms station, or the engine imbalance causing the wormhole - the only people losing confidence in him are Decker and McCoy. McCoy is right that Kirk is unable to accept ENTERPRISE in anyone else's hand. He really does treat Decker as a posessive ex-husband treats his ex-wife's new love. Kirk is competing with Decker for ENTERPRISE's love.
 

MikeKozlowski

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I have been watching through TMP the last few nights. You're absolutely right that Decker had a better grip on the ship. But he did not have a better grip on the people or the senior staff. Scott, Uhura, Chekov and Sulu were all quite happy to have Kirk back. The pod ride with Scott showed the engineer had some reservations about Decker. Similarly, Sulu, Chekov and Uhura never really protested the relief of their captain. Which, to me, suggests Decker never really had the crew bond around him during his tenure. Even when Kirk makes major mistakes - such as showing the crew the destruction of a Klingon CruDiv and Epsilon IX comms station, or the engine imbalance causing the wormhole - the only people losing confidence in him are Decker and McCoy. McCoy is right that Kirk is unable to accept ENTERPRISE in anyone else's hand. He really does treat Decker as a posessive ex-husband treats his ex-wife's new love. Kirk is competing with Decker for ENTERPRISE's love.


Darth,

This kind of ties in with another discussion I had about crew dynamics in the MikeyVerse - and that's that StarFleet seems to have no real problem keeping crews together as long as they want....and in this case, I believe that worked against Will Decker.
It seems to me - YMMV, of course - that if we were talking about a CVN being completely rebuilt over several years, the department heads would have eventually moved on to other assignments, no matter how good they were at what they did. But for some reason, StarFleet kept the department heads on Enterprise exactly where they were. I get keeping Scotty there; hell, he probably designed the overhaul. But everybody else was essentially disposable and could have - should have - been replaced by others.
According to canon, the Prime Crew were all fairly junior officers when they left on the five-year mission. Which means by the time they got back (and FWIW, TOS is year 1-3, TAS is year 4, and the amazing Star Trek Continues is Year 5) they either wanted as far away from Jim Kirk as possible....or they'd have followed him anywhere. Obviously we know what happened. They probably would have eventually warmed to Will Decker, though those who remembered Matt Decker's last hours aboard might have been a little wary. But all they would have done was respect the Skipper. They never would have felt the same way about him as they did about Kirk...which is human nature, unfair as it would have been. They would have second guessed just about every decision Will made in the Big Chair until he hauled their butts out of the fire a few times in suitably Kirkian fashion, but until then they would have been doing him wrong. Keep in mind too that they never really got a chance to bond with him - at the point TMP starts, they've been rebuilding Enterprise for at least three or four years, and at best Will's only been there for the last few months. Bonding with an elite crew in drydock might be possible, but it would be tough.

Mike
 
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I really like that summation, Mike. The dynamics of the crew in Star Trek are critical to it, and of course, they do obey human psychology--even if Starfleet's logic isn't necessarily apparent.

In my own Origins I've tried to show crew bonding dynamics--taking people who have varying degrees of familiarity with each other--and showing them actually becoming a tight crew like that, who will later be tested. But I'm only in season 1. Whereas the lead author for the universe, @Big Steve , went with a crew who were bonded before they got their starship for his own series.
 

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