Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
The thread title says it all. This being said in my opinion it should be a Federal Crime albeit one that involves fines rather than jail time as its punishment
Should doxing be a Federal Crime?
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What is doxing? If it’s just linking your anonymous online personality to publicly available information no, absolutely not.
Doomsought
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No. It is step one to filing a lawsuit.
Orchestrating online harassment campaigns (cancelling), might need a federal statute to deal with jurisdiction, but you need to be careful with the definition so that it doesn't criminalize protests and petitions. Probably best to add external consiquences as a qualification.
Orchestrating online harassment campaigns (cancelling), might need a federal statute to deal with jurisdiction, but you need to be careful with the definition so that it doesn't criminalize protests and petitions. Probably best to add external consiquences as a qualification.
I think those who engage in cancel culture should be tried as domestic terrorists and if anyone commits suicide as a result of their digital lynching, they should face the death penalty.
But Doxxing by itself? No? When used as part of a dedicated assault on people to suppress their civil rights using the protection the private sector gets as a shield?
They should be given the Argentine treatment...un vuelo directo al mar mas cerca.
But Doxxing by itself? No? When used as part of a dedicated assault on people to suppress their civil rights using the protection the private sector gets as a shield?
They should be given the Argentine treatment...un vuelo directo al mar mas cerca.
This I fully agree with.
There is a dude who used to work for DARPA whose..I think running his own think tank now. And he's a bit of a whackadoo, one thing he proposed about half a decade ago was reinstating the wereguild as a means of dealing with slander, sexual assault and battery and these kinds of aggressive attempts to blacklist people.
Another big brain has been advocating for the restoration of dueling laws to settle these matters.
Everyone bodied both of these dudes as being nut cases..but the more this crap goes, the more sense they seem to make.
A simple, specific law can be drafted if Politicians actually kept their oath.
The issue is going to be conservatives who will blindly enforce a heavily romanticized interpretation of the 1A forgetting that...dealing with blacklists is less a first amendment issue and more a second amendment issue.
At least in the sense that it deals with self defense and communal defense. Cancel Culture is an act of violence, one can argue its comparable to a home invasion at the very least.
When ideologically motivated it should be seen as an act of terror. Especially given that the Klan got mega fucked on civil liberties issues for running similar practices.
It is one of those things ya know. This is the time to be alive
This is a horribly stupid idea. Publicly stating "I don't want to buy from you" is now a federal crime? Besides running into the first amendment head first, it's just asking to be screwed by corporations. A libertarian is warning you that you are making corporations too powerful, that's how stupid this idea is.
Black lists are about the freedom to associate and the freedom to speak, and are thus 100% 1A issues.
Lol no, doxxing people, calling their places of work, having them fired for wrong think, targeting their family members, getting their jobs ruined and their lives destroyed. Which has already caused several suicides, is something that if you participate in..You absolutely should be tried as though you caused the person's death.
Or really even if its just a loss of their livelihood and homes, charged with attempted murder. Rather dishonest of you to act like this is just a boycott when it's a malevolent circumvention of the 1A by using it as a shield to tear it down.
The fuck are you babbling about?
Corporations are the vehicle for this systematic disenfranchisement and homicide of American citizens by individuals acting as a mob.
I'm of the mind that Facebook and Twitter Content moderators should likewise face death penalty trials and that Google and Twitter should be declared terrorist organizations and wiped out.
It would certainly be part of the solution to this current problem.
Oh you're a Lolbertarian? No wonder your arguments are 90% pedantry 10% substance.
In this case they're about a militant attempt to destroy the lives of individuals carried out by radical, subversive and treacherous people or hysterics in the mob utilizing the protections the private sector affords to do so.
This is about individuals, not corporation.
Mind ye, I do believe our free market needs a Pinochet style purge to clear it up of crony capitalists and Wumaos.
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You said cancel culture. Cancel culture is an incredibly wide net to cast, which does include publicly stating you don't want to buy stuff. If you didn't mean everything involved in cancel culture, be more specific, and be absolutely sure that the definition can't be stretched to include public boycotts, because if it can, it will be stretched. If you did mean everything involved in cancel culture, then the law is just as stupid as I pointed out.
Regardless, this is already partially banned under tortious interference (you can't interfere with a third party's contract), and much of the rest is covered under the first amendment.
As per usual, corporations would use the attempt to disempower them to empower themselves (just look at sale of Che shirts for a great example). If you don't buy from them because they do awful things, and you try to get the corporation boycotted for being legitimately awful, they'll sue you/get you prosecuted for doing this under a cancel culture ban law.
Or...you ignored the context of the thread to pearl clutch and in doing so wasted everyone's time bloviating like a hysteric.
This thread makes the context in which we are discussing makes what I meant abundantly clear. Anything else from you is just noise.
When laws aren't enforced they have no value and when such avenues aren't pursued they're rendered moot.
Besides it's not a TI beef, its a terrorism beef.
You solve that by making corporations accessories and start executing CEO's and content mods, you make them as accountable as the perpetrators.
Making Doxxing a crime is also stupid. Doxxing is either protected under the first amendment, or comes with a threat, which is already a state crime. In the context of the thread, where making doxxing a crime is being considered, banning boycotts is not out of the realm of possibilities, and even more stupid.
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Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
That sounds reasonable.
Which is almost never enforced, thus rendered moot. Especially when leftists control the urban centers where most of the victims and perpetrators reside.
Boycotting has nothing to do with organized terror campaigns conducted by a rabid mob using the tools provided by crony capitalistic corporations who would have crumbled and been replaced in a truly free market long ago again a mob of individuals. And it's the height of Lolbertarian sophistry to be so suicidal to your own ideals as to equate the two.
Don't peddle in absurdist nonsense. It does neither your philosophy nor the continuing survival of American culture any good.
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... Yes it does. It's their fundamental tactic from which everything flows, allowing them to exert pressure on corporations. You have no idea how cancel culture works, apparently. The rest of you post is similarly idiotic. I should have learned not to respond to you the last time I put up with your idiocy.
The idiocy flows from you. Boycotting is part of it but the vast majority of the victims of cancel culture have nothing to do with companies and they are all individuals being terrorized and disenfranchised by a leftist mob. This is not about voting with your wallet. Its about subverting the free market and the first amendment to have people suicided.
Or have the recent deatbs not clued you in?
You wanna babble about MUH FREE MARKET
When the very nature of cancel culture ensures a free market is impossible. Even your vaunted messiah Friedman knew this and so was fine with Carabineros throwing commies out of cargo planes so long as they left the market alone.
Namely because he understood there was no way to have a free market when groups of people can silence competition at a moments notice.
Stop being a myopic fool
Its not the main issue nor is it the vehicle by which cancel culture operates. A byproduct is not the main threat nor is it what anyone wants to silence you autistic clown.
... You said that it had nothing to do with it, now are desperately and blatantly trying to walk this back.