How about legalizing same-sex marriage in Poland or at least same-sex civil unions with all of the same rights as married couples have, though?
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How about legalizing same-sex marriage in Poland or at least same-sex civil unions with all of the same rights as married couples have, though?
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
And what is it for? Will it change our country for the better? No, it is an important issue for at least 20% of the population it harms? No.
We Poles have more important things on our minds than some marriage for someone out there.
Sorry gentlemen, but while you were exterminating Gays and Lesbians, we were shrugging our shoulders and the fact that the interwar director of the Academy of Music Karol Szymanski or another I no longer remember, but a gay actor were homosexual, it was.... well-known fact among everyone?
To like, not to like. We don't care about them and that's it. We consider it a mere dumb quirk from the West we see no reason to be friendly to organizations that have been deliberately irritating us and our culture for a nice few years.
FWIW, the reason that I mentioned Polish LGBTQ+ here is because some such people have actually emigrated from Poland over the last several years in response to LGBTQ+phobia:
In Poland, an L.G.B.T.Q. Migration As Homophobia Deepens (Published 2021)
An escalation in verbal attacks by the Polish government, with the support of the Roman Catholic Church, as well as the threat of physical violence on the streets of many cities, has triggered an exodus of gay people.
Amid growing hostility, some in Poland's LGBTQ community make a difficult choice: Leave
Some lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people are leaving Poland following the anti-LGBTQ campaign rhetoric the president used to get reelected.
www.latimes.com
‘They explode with gayness’: Polish queer migration and self-realisation
This LGBT+ History Month, Richard C.M. Mole, Professor of Political Sociology (UCL SSEES), researches identity, sexuality, and migration, particularly of queer individuals in Eastern Europe. In thi…
ucleuropeblog.com
Queer and over here: Polish migrants stay on despite Brexit
Around one in four LGBTQ Polish migrants in Britain say their sexuality was one of the reasons why they moved to the UK. Lukasz Szulc (University of Sheffield) describes how this group have reacted…
blogs.lse.ac.uk
Gay Poles head for UK to escape state crackdown
Polish gay rights groups claim thousands of homosexuals have fled the country to escape increasing persecution.
www.theguardian.com
Stories of Polish Gay Immigration in the UK
Homophobia in Poland is another major reason of Polish immigration to the UK. Who would have thought? In fact, gay Poles decide to book a one-way flight ticket to London to escape discrimination.
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
These are, how to put it nicely. Over-sensitive ladies who would most like to silence anyone who disagrees with them. The usual pouring of water and misdirection.
I do not hide the fact that there are unpleasant comments, the problem is ... that they often asked for it themselves with their own comments? And in Poland there is no culture of the type gently and avoiding hard topics and their own opinions. If someone doesn't like something or someone, they say it in a straightforward way.
It should be remembered that most Polish homosexuals do not suffer from LGBT. After the first normal march, the next ones were just more and more disgusting.
BTW there is a well-known Polish gay conservative who used to be an LGBT activist before he got a bucket of cold water and realized what this environment really is. And now? Comments that he would die are among the kindest. From those who were previously his colleagues!
Did he ever get married to a woman? Because some gay men do, in fact, do this:
Perspective: A controversial tweet led this Latter-day Saint gay man down an unexpected path
The creator of the “Sit Down with Sky and Preston” podcast talks about why he stands up for his faith and his family.
www.deseret.com
I’m a gay man — and happily married to a woman
This Utah man’s attraction to men hasn’t gotten in the way of his marriage to his wife — or their sex life.
nypost.com
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
None of that, he's a young healthy bull who lives in a village where everyone knows he's gay (of the powerful kind). To the eye he is only 30 years old, I remind Polish gays were not and are not persecuted in Poland, how someone feels this way may most likely be due to the fact that he is an asshole to others.
Whether someone was "different" didn't matter much to Poles because it's a private zone, most often such simply were bachelors with close friendships. There was no compulsion to marry (well, unless his family was crazy).
Honestly, as you read the average activist, because you have to remember that Poles read what they say about them. It's possible to grab your head and decide that it just doesn't make sense.
Another thing is that some of them just.... lie in plain sight and they are not ashamed.
Interesting. FWIW, there's always the option of making the marriage open: As in, being formally married to a woman, but having a lot of gay sex with other men on the side. Polyamorous (non-monogamous) marriages do exist, after all.
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
Honestly, it's just plain disgusting to me. Anyway, the pressure for marriage in Poland is not particularly strong so there is no reason why they would have to do it.
Old german elites problem.They do not feel well if there is independent Poland.When we do not care about what happen in germany as long as it remain there.
That is not job of goverment,polish or other.They must care about strong army,good economy and fair judges,not lgbt+52.
TheRomanSlayer
Putang Ina Mo, Katolikong Hayop!
So the German equivalent to KGBstan is Stasireich or Gestaporeich?
Putting that aside, in one of Zhirinovsky’s bizarre proposals involving Ukraine, he also hoped to have Halychyna and Volhynia retaken by Poland.
Putting that aside, in one of Zhirinovsky’s bizarre proposals involving Ukraine, he also hoped to have Halychyna and Volhynia retaken by Poland.
And why exactly would Poland want a bunch of Banderists within its borders?
TheRomanSlayer
Putang Ina Mo, Katolikong Hayop!
Not sure, but then again, it was Zhirinovsky who proposed this kind of idea in the first place, and is bizarre by ordinary standards.
Well, Zhirik is a clown, so ...
Interestingly enough, if one is a hardcore Russian nationalist who doesn't care at all about what the West thinks, then having Russia expand up to the Russian Empire's 1793 western borders, minus perhaps Kiev, back in 2014 might have been an interesting idea:
Maximizing the gains while minimizing the number of Ukrainian nationalists who would have ended up under your rule.
What would you consider "normal" LGBTQ+ advocacy?
Maximizing the gains while minimizing the number of Ukrainian nationalists who would have ended up under your rule.
What would you consider "normal" LGBTQ+ advocacy?
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
It's a pretty long list.
But I'll make it short, everything that the average Pole considers normal and not bragging about what they do in the bedroom and not ordering people to like them because of it, and recognizing that most are not the least bit interested in what they do in private.
And certainly making parades for this reason and treating as normal wearing almost nothingin public (that is, dressing in clothes that unequivocally equate to exposing oneself in public). Thank you, we know you exist but we don't give a shit, go home and behave there as befits members of society and not behave in such a way as to remind us why you are a social margin.
(Well, and get away from Catholicism, your provocation by placing the Virgin Mary with baby Jesus against a background of female genitalia is disgusting and punishable. This was a deliberate act to provoke Catholics to react and rightfully outrage.)
PS the map is not fully correct, the Eastern border of the Republic ended far away at Sumy, the arc Sumy-Poltava-Dnipropetrovsk is the Eastern border of Poland until around the Swedish Deluge/Chmelnitsky uprising.
I was talking about the 1793 border here.