CarlManvers2019
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The problem comes in not realizing the difference
People can think they’re correcting their children while being angry that they criticized them for even actual idiocy
Report Claims LGBT Parents Suffer ‘Homophobic’ Abuse from Children During Lockdown
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The problem comes in not realizing the difference
People can think they’re correcting their children while being angry that they criticized them for even actual idiocy
Lanmandragon
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Sure parenting is hard alot of times.
CarlManvers2019
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Freedom is hard, people have a hard time trusting themselves and other individuals, that is why people want to entrust their actions to a theoretically neutral figure that is also highly benevolent and knows just what to do and is right all the time
Their Tyranny of Virtue will be the parent in your place
Exactly!
Shipmaster Sane
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Hmm.
Why can't the gays and trannies and queers stop being degenerate? Because then they would just be straight.
CarlManvers2019
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Dude, not all of them are douchebags
Hell, it was them being relatively normal that got them accepted
Political Lesbians and Transtrender-types just went into this thing to get attention and decided that being a “normal” sort of LGBT wasn’t enough to get attention
Doomsought
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Yet one more reason to dobut that homosexual couples are equally capable of being parents. Lust is not a valid basis for a lasting relationship.
Shipmaster Sane
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Not everyone who smokes gets cancer.
Fleiur
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You forgot political gays suing that Christian bakery over a cake.
Shipmaster Sane
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What you're calling a "normal" LGBT is itself an Abnormal LGBT. Degeneracy isn't the niche sideshow, it's the main attraction.
So, if I point out an abusive straight couple, then neither should straight couples have kids? Is that really the reasoning being used here?
As for calling gay relationships just lust, that is incredibly stupid. How many happily gay married couples do you need for gay relationships not to be just considered lust?
Not really. Sometimes, people aren't attracted to the opposite gender. So they find love with the same gender. That's the vast majority of gays. But the activist portion still needed to 'fight the good fight' after we won, and so all that's seen in most media is the creepy shit.
Shipmaster Sane
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Sometimes people compulsively eat coins.
Sometimes people are attracted to the opposite sex.
Sometimes people think a rando rose from the dead 2000 years agoe.
Sometimes people think that government is the problem.
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Sometimes people compulsively eat coins.
Wow, seems like a universal counterargument you got here. Good on you.
LordsFire
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This is one of the most important lessons for any kind of discipline. If you 'discipline' your children because of personal beef, they will not respect your authority, because they just see you as being selfish like they are, but *stronger*. It's a terrible lesson to teach.
Discipline delivered when the parent is calm, or only exhibiting disappointment, is more effective, generally because it is more virtuous, and the child can more clearly see the reason for their punishment is their error, not because the parent is upset.
I don't have the statistics in front of me, but as I recall, if you cut out the extreme outliers in the top & bottom 2-5%, the least promiscuous homosexuals have about as many sexual partners as the most promiscuous heterosexuals.
To be clear, I think promiscuity is morally wrong, regardless of which gender you're having sex outside of marriage with.
I also think that marriage is at root a divinely-created institution, and by definition heterosexual.
Give your partner power of attorney if you want. Have some sort of civil union if you want. But since back in the 90's when I first started to become culturally and politically aware, I have seen the push to 'legalize gay marriage' as an attempt to force normalization of homosexuality. I was actually wrong it turns out; the activists want to force people to support homosexual marriage, as proven by the lawsuits they started filing within months of the Supreme Court's ruling.
Now, to help round out the perspective I'm giving in this post, I'll bring up Dave Rubin.
Rubin is openly homosexual, 'married' to another man, and actually has settled down with the guy into, as best is known, monogamy. He's also one of my favorite content creators on youtube, and because he's not abrasive or prone to sexualizing everything, I'd be perfectly fine sitting down and having a civil conversation with him. Much as Ben Shapiro is known to have done, I'd tell him I think his lifestyle is immoral, but it's his decision to make, and then we'd move on to other topics.
If the majority of homosexuals were more like Dave Rubin, we wouldn't be having this kind of culture war. But the fact is, it is very hard to dip 'just a little' over the line into sexual hedonism after you've decided that the line isn't actually real, and the statistics on levels of sexual activity bear this out.
Shipmaster Sane
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Holy shit this guy just admitted being gay is a belief.
This I have no issue with. I'm quite fine with someone judging a person based on promiscuity. I personally don't care that much morally, but I do know it has an effect on long term happiness. And I agree that gays especially tend to have many more sexual partners.
But I would argue that the reason gay culture is promiscuous is because of the lack of marriage being normal or even legal for a long part, and that the couples that do marry are the ones likely to be not promiscuous afterwards. If we even look at the history of gay culture, the more accepted gays are, the less promiscuous they are. At gay degeneracy's height, it was the 60's and gay bars (run by the mafia) were being raided by vice squads because two men were dancing together. Some of the stuff they would do was disgusting, because gays were had no self-respect, no religion, no formalized relationships, etc. Even cohabitating was a huge risk to one's job. But as gays were more respected, they were able to slowly normalize relationships, which lead to more normal behavior. This will continue and get more and more common as time goes on. How can I tell? Because activist LGBT's complain about the 'dying gay culture' as if that's a bad thing.
So of the gays who do marry, and then adopt kids, these are the ones who aren't promiscuous, as they definitely chose to have the baby. So when we restrict to this percentage, we are looking at about the bottom part of the curve.
The thing is, there are always parts of a movement that want way more than is ethical or wise to take. For example, a number of civil rights people, once they got civil rights, kept on campaigning for things they thought would fix the black lives, including welfare and higher prison sentences. Neither of those were good ideas, but that the bad done later doesn't invalidate the good done initially.
Similarly, most of the LGBT rights have been won, at least in the US. But there remains an activist wing of the LGBT movement (and many more straights being activist 'allies') that insists everything is awful, and gays are still horribly oppressed. Why are they what people see now? Because all the normal LGBT's said, 'Yay, we won, now we can live normally!', and went on to live normal lives. This process is still happening somewhat, as it is a new victory (less than 5 years old). But with all of the normal people leaving, what is left are the crazies. So there is a really loud, very small minority that has come to define LGBT culture. That's what you are experiencing now. It's up to us normal LGBT's to be preformatively normal in order to counteract this craziness. This is why Blaire White, Arielle Scarcella, Brandon Straka, Dave Rubin, etc, are important. They are normal people LGBT, and calling out LGBT woketivists.
No. I pointed out that "Some people do totally unrelated thing" is a shit argument. I was comparing it to a number of qualities people could have, including belief in X. I could have used some people have red hair as well.
But let's pretend that I admitted being gay is a belief. I also claimed that being straight is just a belief. So not exactly the win you were hoping for.
Shipmaster Sane
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Yes, your awful, flimsy comparison walked you into a silly position. See, this is what happens when your comparisons suck ass.
Let me walk you through this, champ.
You list unconscious compulsion (homosexuality) I compare with unconscious compulsion (Pica)
Then you sperg out and compare with a bunch of concious belief structures (Christianity, libertarianism)
I could not have forced you into taking a sillier position if I had done so intentionally.
Lanmandragon
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If they use "LGBT" in a serious manner you can bet they're one of the crazies.
Lol nope if your so weak that youve allowed your kid to insult you without a severe response. Any and all authority you have as a parent is already gone. Weakness not gayness is the issue here.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
I think the LGB part is already having problems with being associated with the latter part