Report Claims LGBT Parents Suffer ‘Homophobic’ Abuse from Children During Lockdown

[Abhorsen]

I've seen a few YouTube videos --compilations mostly-- that have had children from a broken marriage utterly detest one parent because they came out as gay, trans, or a transtrender, and it broke up the family (some of which were 30+ years going).

The parent in question can't understand why their once-darling child now thinks they're the scum of the Earth, why they want to live with their ex, and why they can't accept their new girl/boyfriend/husband/wife, and why they're ghosted the moment said child turns 18.

I'm wondering if a few of these cases are related to this sort of situation happening, and the Corona Quarantine caused them to boil over in affected households.

That just sounds like a shitty situation all around. For the straight people, imagine a really SJW world where you had to pretend to be gay for 30 years. At some point, the truth just needs to come out.

 

[Lanmandragon]

Truth is as a parent you can be friends with your kids while young or while old. These are mutually exclusive your a commander a king/queen behave as such. Failure to do so will invariably lead to your children's contempt and even hate when they're adults. Your not there to be nice or "loving" your thier to teach discipline. So when the child is grown he/she knows how to win it's really that simple. Being gay or straight is irrelevant being strong or weak is what matters.

 

[ShieldWife]

But your 'argument' can still be used against it. Hence it's a shit argument.

And we aren't comparing the sex, we are comparing the attraction. These are very comparable. Having a portion of the population experiencing homosexual attraction is almost certainly evolutionary advantageous, given the number of species that have homosexuality. It doesn't seem to die out as one might expect. My guess is that this has to do with the social function of sex, and how sex has more purpose (even just in regards to evolution) than just reproduction.

The evolutionary advantage idea is based in the theory that homosexuality is genetic, which tests have shown is untrue. Sexual orientation is more a product of environment than genetics and the environment that created evolutionary pressures which lead to modern humanity was so radically different from modern society that sexual orientation as we know it was likely far different as well.

 

[Lanmandragon]

The evolutionary advantage idea is based in the theory that homosexuality is genetic, which tests have shown is untrue. Sexual orientation is more a product of environment than genetics and the environment that created evolutionary pressures which lead to modern humanity was so radically different from modern society that sexual orientation as we know it was likely far different as well.

You sure I e read stuff that the preselection to be gsy is gentic. Then can or perhaps doesn't get activated by external factors. From my understanding things like schizophrenia and manic depression work the same way.

 

[Abhorsen]

The evolutionary advantage idea is based in the theory that homosexuality is genetic, which tests have shown is untrue. Sexual orientation is more a product of environment than genetics and the environment that created evolutionary pressures which lead to modern humanity was so radically different from modern society that sexual orientation as we know it was likely far different as well.

That's why I referenced the number of animals (not just mammals) that experience some form of homosexuality. If animals do it, not just humans, there is almost certainly an evolutionary advantage. Also, there is a good amount of evidence that there is genetics involved with homosexuality as well, as well as biological differences between gays and straights:

Biology and sexual orientation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ShieldWife]

That's why I referenced the number of animals (not just mammals) that experience some form of homosexuality. If animals do it, not just humans, there is almost certainly an evolutionary advantage. Also, there is a good amount of evidence that there is genetics involved with homosexuality as well, as well as biological differences between gays and straights:

Biology and sexual orientation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I don't think that we can draw any conclusions from animals. The way that animals socially interact is so radically different from they way that humans do that I think that it would only matter for very closely related species - apes for example.

The wikipedia article strikes me as suspicious. It sounds like they're really not saying very much, but trying to insist that homosexuality is both biological and evolutionarily beneficial because they're supposed to say that.

Anyway, on another thread I posted a link to this interesting twin study with more substantial conclusions:

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

The results, published online this month in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, confirm earlier findings that identical twins are more concordant for same-sex behaviors than fraternal twins are but only modestly so: In men, genetic effects appeared to explain 34% to 39% of the differences between the two twin groups, whereas in women, genetics accounted for only about 18% to 19% of the difference--a finding consistent with other research showing that sexual orientation in women is not as rigidly determined as it is in men.

Homosexuality is primarily non-biological for both men and women, but biology does play a role. Biology plays about twice as big a role in men than women for determining sexual orientation.

 

[Lanmandragon]

I don't think that we can draw any conclusions from animals. The way that animals socially interact is so radically different from they way that humans do that I think that it would only matter for very closely related species - apes for example.

The wikipedia article strikes me as suspicious. It sounds like they're really not saying very much, but trying to insist that homosexuality is both biological and evolutionarily beneficial because they're supposed to say that.

Anyway, on another thread I posted a link to this interesting twin study with more substantial conclusions:

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

Homosexuality is primarily non-biological for both men and women, but biology does play a role. Biology plays about twice as big a role in men than women for determining sexual orientation.

Hmm maybe I personally don't believe in "lesibians" at all. They literally DO NOT exist as far as I can tell. I've relatively easily seduced and smashed multiple lesibians. Two of which were "married" so it's entierly possible it isnt gentic IMHOP.

 

[Abhorsen]

I don't think that we can draw any conclusions from animals. The way that animals socially interact is so radically different from they way that humans do that I think that it would only matter for very closely related species - apes for example.

Well, as for apes, there is homosexuality in those as well, especially bonobos. The thing is that it is so wide spread, however, that it means that there is almost certainly a natural cause for it. It's not necessarily a defense, but it is definitively a statement that homosexuality confers some advantage. Can you give me some other trait that affects so many other animals and somehow not be evolutionarily advantageous?

My guess in Kin selection at least partially explains the way it helps, but I could be wrong.

The wikipedia article strikes me as suspicious. It sounds like they're really not saying very much, but trying to insist that homosexuality is both biological and evolutionarily beneficial because they're supposed to say that.

They have a lot of evidence on a lot of different factors. Also, as for gayness being in genes, I'll totally accept some of it being enviromental, but even the study you cited claims some of it is in the genes. Note that some of it could also be in the genes of the mother, and affect the prenatal horomones of all of her kids.

 

[Lanmandragon]

Well, as for apes, there is homosexuality in those as well, especially bonobos. The thing is that it is so wide spread, however, that it means that there is almost certainly a natural cause for it. It's not necessarily a defense, but it is definitively a statement that homosexuality confers some advantage. Can you give me some other trait that affects so many other animals and somehow not be evolutionarily advantageous?

My guess in Kin selection at least partially explains the way it helps, but I could be wrong.

They have a lot of evidence on a lot of different factors. Also, as for gayness being in genes, I'll totally accept some of it being enviromental, but even the study you cited claims some of it is in the genes. Note that some of it could also be in the genes of the mother, and affect the prenatal horomones of all of her kids.

How about chimps? They are as close genetically as bonbons. Is there eveidence of gayness in them?(honest question not being a dick)

 

[Abhorsen]

How about chimps? They are as close genetically as bonbons. Is there eveidence of gayness in them?(honest question not being a dick)

I can't actually find chimps specifically, but my money says yes. Here's a wikipedia article listing a bunch of animals that are gay:

Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Note that the definition of gayness varies. Some species have some specimens that have gay sex occasionally, some have almost all animals of at least one sex have gay sex, some have some specimens that are exclusively gay.

 

[Lanmandragon]

I can't actually find chimps specifically, but my money says yes. Here's a wikipedia article listing a bunch of animals that are gay:

Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Note that the definition of gayness varies. Some species have some specimens that have gay sex occasionally, some have almost all animals of at least one sex have gay sex, some have some specimens that are exclusively gay.

Sure that makes alot of sense. As for Greeks and Romans you weren't gay unless you received. As the act if submission not necessarily the sex itself. Is what was homosexual. Which frankly makes dar more sense to me. As no acutal man would ever submit except to his mother and father.

 

[Zachowon]

The evolutionary advantage idea is based in the theory that homosexuality is genetic, which tests have shown is untrue. Sexual orientation is more a product of environment than genetics and the environment that created evolutionary pressures which lead to modern humanity was so radically different from modern society that sexual orientation as we know it was likely far different as well.

Some women who have had terrible experiences with men end up branding every man the same after so many bad relationships that they end up becoming Lesbians because they generally think it will be better for them.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Some women who have had terrible experiences with men end up branding every man the same after so many bad relationships that they end up becoming Lesbians because they generally think it will be better for them.

And they’re not even enthusiastic in bed as Cherico says

The worse part is if they spread the thinking around to women who haven’t experienced it yet

 

[LordsFire]

Some women who have had terrible experiences with men end up branding every man the same after so many bad relationships that they end up becoming Lesbians because they generally think it will be better for them.

For men and women both, if all of your relationships with the opposite sex are profoundly dysfunctional, that says more about you and your taste in partners than it does about the opposite sex.

 

[Zachowon]

For men and women both, if all of your relationships with the opposite sex are profoundly dysfunctional, that says more about you and your taste in partners than it does about the opposite sex.

Exactly! But they always assume it has to be the other gender is not right for them, but never the type of person.

 

[7 Gold Eye Heals the Wise]

Imagine being such a faggot your children bully you.

 

[PsihoKekec]

It's quite common these days, but I guess it's a pressing problem when it happens to certain demographics, coddled by media.