History Rants & Raves About Zee Germans Runoff Thread

[ATP]

France, Germany and Russia are pretty much the reason why the entire West is such a pile of crap, garbage and crappy garbage.

Add UK and USA as an inspiration / distant cause. And Islam as a hatty cause.

Yes.I do not have any problems with germans,if they made Partition of Poland,and then become real good chrystians,united Europe and made it Chrystianitas again,even if Poland would never be free again.

Unfortunatelly,they killed Poland,and then fucked Europe.Then they lost WW1 thanks to their own stupidity,blamed it on jews,killed Poland again,and fucked Europe again.

Then,after WW2,they helped soviets do not fall becouse of economy.Then they helped kgbstan not fall thanks to economy with NS1 and 2.

They are kind of antiheroes - always must destroy everytching,when there is even slight chance of better future.

And now they lead Europe to disaster again.

Interesting,WHEN FINALLY GERMANS UNDARSTANDT,THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD NOT LET ANYBODY ELSE THEN THEMSELVES ?

 

[Aldarion]

Unfortunatelly,they killed Poland,and then fucked Europe.Then they lost WW1 thanks to their own stupidity,blamed it on jews,killed Poland again,and fucked Europe again.

Oh, it is worse than that. They also fucked Europe in the interwar period, even before Nazis came to power.

And let's not forget how Germany created Soviet Union in the first place. They did everything they could to make revolution possible (such as sending Lenin to Russia, bankrolling the entire thing etc.).

 

[Aldarion]

Interesting, i though that they did so from 1926.

1922, actually. I misread the article.

Idiots,if they get their wet dream and partioned Poland with soviets,they would end in the same mass graves as we.
To be honest,Hitler saved their asses attacking soviets before they backstabbed him - becouse any democratic german goverment would never did so,and gather lesser army.

We would have soviet Europe now,if german democrats ruled instead of Adolf.

Agreed.

You know you have screwed up when you make Hitler look good...

 

[ATP]

Oh, it is worse than that. They also fucked Europe in the interwar period, even before Nazis came to power.

And let's not forget how Germany created Soviet Union in the first place. They did everything they could to make revolution possible (such as sending Lenin to Russia, bankrolling the entire thing etc.).

Sadly,true - althought do not forget about our Wall Street unfriends - they send Trocky,and supported later soviets,too.

 

[ATP]

1922, actually. I misread the article.

Agreed.

You know you have screwed up when you make Hitler look good...

1.Rapallo was political agreement,but they started making weapons in soviets from 1926,after Berlin agreement.
2.Yep,i wish i could made time machine and ask those german geniuses one question - what would soviet do,when they destroy Poland and have common border with you?

 

[ATP]

Another fake german hero/even get Iron Cross/

Walter Wessel ,commander of 15 mechanized regiment from 29 dyvision,who 9.9.39 murdered at least 250 polish prisoners,not counting cyvilians.
Mainly in Ciepielów,where polish soldiers were murdered becouse they ambushed germans in forest.
Here:https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjNrrTGvs2BAxUslP0HHQY7DzsQFnoECBAQAQ&url=https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbrodnia_w_Ciepielowie_(1939)&usg=AOvVaw10meb-etgapPj_2UGKPrKf&opi=89978449


but - some german soldier was still human,and after war send proofs of that crime to polish authorities/well,commie polish,but still/

 

[ATP]

Germans do not pay for their crimes in Poland,but they pay for renovation of palaces in which german criminals lived.

they start renovation of palace in Sztynort,which from 1936 belonged to Heinricha grafa von Lehndorf-Steinort,who without problems helped Hitler attack Poland in 1939,but when his idol start loosing joined conspirators.

And get hanged for his effort.Since then,he is lauded as "Widerstand gegen das NS-regime" /opposition against NS/
When was his opposition against Hitler,when he attacked Poland in 1939?

Usually i am against all german crimes,but when they hanged that rat they did good thing.If you support cryminals,you should die with them when they lost,not change sides.
Or,at least,change sides when they do not completly lost and save somebody.

 

[ATP]

Eilert Dieken,who was commander of german police unit which murdered polish family of Ulms for hiding jews,after WW2 come back to his city/Esens/ as policeman,and even get street named after him there.
His doughter belive,that in Poland he helped people.
Well,he helped - Ulm family was named as Saints,so thanks to him Poland have more Saints.

Here about Ulm family:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjTueaawOmBAxVXKBAIHe6fDNAQFnoECB8QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJ%25C3%25B3zef_and_Wiktoria_Ulma_with_Seven_Children&usg=AOvVaw3139aHrXjOs96n_VO-vwLf&opi=89978449

 

[ATP]

Polish Ulma family was murdered by germans for hiding jews - and now,they are finally recognized as blessed.
here:



What is interesting is german reaction - almost all german media says notching/when they talk so much about new movie about bad poles/
,but one newspaper,"Die Tageszeitung" wrote/Gabriele Lesser/ that beatification was made becouse of...polish elections.
Yup,bad polish nationalist made poperecognize them as blessed before elections.
And,to hide Jedwabne hucpa.

Germans would be germans.

P.S German policeman who commanded murderers,Eilert Dieken,after war come back to his town Esens,and served till his death.He even get street there.
His doughter belive,that in Poland he helped people.
Yup,he helped them go to Heaven.

 

[Simonbob]

The Ulm's seem pretty good. Have you any more on Eilert Dieken?

I do know that a lot of German cops, many good ones, went into occupied territory to be the law there, and slowly became much, much worse over their time. I'm not sure why, but there was certianly pressure from both the SS and local partisans.

 

[ATP]

The Ulm's seem pretty good. Have you any more on Eilert Dieken?

I do know that a lot of German cops, many good ones, went into occupied territory to be the law there, and slowly became much, much worse over their time. I'm not sure why, but there was certianly pressure from both the SS and local partisans.

He personally decide to kill children/locals asked to spare them/ ,and was twice checked for his past by german authorities - both times they decided that he is good german boy.

About german police - they behaved like monsters usually,but somehow really helped.For example,when UPA started genociding polish cyvilians in 1943,local german forces helped them more then polish AK.

And,soviet partisants usually attacked some small otpost,killed few germans in cruel way and run.Germans answered murdering nearby villages.That was soviet tactic to made sure,that nobody would cooperate with germans.
They still failed - in 1944 up to 1M soviets did so.

Polish partisants rarely killed germans,becouse they knew that germans would genocide cyvilians for that.

 

[Aldarion]

Polish partisants rarely killed germans,becouse they knew that germans would genocide cyvilians for that.

Meanwhile, Yugoslav partisans attacked Germans precisely because they knew Germans would genocide civilians for that. Because Yugoslav partisans were led by Communists, who would have genocided the entire Yugoslavia so long as they got to rule the ashes.

 

[ATP]

Meanwhile, Yugoslav partisans attacked Germans precisely because they knew Germans would genocide civilians for that. Because Yugoslav partisans were led by Communists, who would have genocided the entire Yugoslavia so long as they got to rule the ashes.

Soviets partisants did the same,and few commie partisants in Poland/in reality,they were normal cryminals who agree to steal and murder cyvilians as commies,so polish real partisants would not kill them.

And,it worked.Our idiots from AK/Home Army/ ordered to not kill bandits cosplaing as commies - so,after soviets come,they told them who is polish patriot.Mu grandfather was arrested thanks to that,and few granduncles,too.

 

[ATP]

in 2022 Germany was Moscov ally - they refused any help for Ukraine,and changed their mind when it no longer be possible for them.

Let assume,that Ukraine would fall in week,and Poland would be ruled by their agent Tusk in 2023.
What would happen? soviets would attack promising USA everything,USA would do nothing,german one dyvision would meet soviets on Vistula river line....

And then soviets would destroy them and go to Atlantic shore.

Another "great" german plan which would end in germany owned by soviets.

All becouse they hate Poland so much,that they have no problems with being killed after us.

Is it too hard for german fools to undarstandt,that they could made lasting deal over polish corpse ONLY becouse those tsars were germans,too?

Now it is KGB mafia there.they could promise everytching - but would backstab germans when there would be no Poland between them.

If germans were smart,they would do everytching to made Poland as strong as possible to fight soviets for them.
Unfortunatelly for them,last smart german leader was Bismarck.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

You heard right gentlemen! This thread is explicitly devoted to one of our members refusal to leave a topic alone despite all evidence to the contrary!

 

[Husky_Khan]

ATP rants about more then just Germans though... This thread should be more inclusive...

 

[Free-Stater 101]

ATP rants about more then just Germans though... This thread should be more inclusive...

If it were more inclusive I would have to ban him from everywhere but this thread for derailment he is a man of literally five subjects, Poland, Germans, Israel and Soviets in that order love it or hate it.

 

[ATP]

You heard right gentlemen! This thread is explicitly devoted to one of our members refusal to leave a topic alone despite all evidence to the contrary!

sigh.What Blessed Ulm family did yo you?
Or,maybe you defend honour of their german murderers?

well,it is your choice.Everybody choose his heroes,you choosed Eilert Dieken who murdered them and was good german policeman after WW2,i choose murdered Saints.

Freedom mean freedom,indeed.