LifeisTiresome
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Found something interesting over on Kiwifarms. What do you guys think?
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uhhhhhhh that’s a no, dawg.
Gayle Rubin, Pat Califia, Michel Foucault - the first queer theorists - all openly advocated for pedophilia, and the founding document of queer theory “Thinking Sex” spends over half its length supporting NAMBLA and man-boy lovers. All the original queer theorists argued for a total transgression of every sexual norm, and for people to apply anarchist theory to sexuality, including pedophilia. It’s not just a way to analyze literature. There is a reason so many troons will have “AOA:16-18” of age of attraction 16-18 in their twitter bios. I forget which, but there’s even a queer NYT author who talks a lot about AOA/NOMAPs on twitter and slips it in with his articles.
Gay men had to kick out the pedophiles when gay rights first started. It wasn’t just some gossip that gay men wanted to fuck kids, pedophiles (especially man-boy lovers) were trying to get accepted in the same push as regular gay and lesbians in the 1970s. They went into the shadows, wrote essays in liberal arts colleges, called it “queer theory” and started to wear people down.
That’s why troons are not just stopping at being accepted at work. Trooning kids, sexually grooming kids, people like Yaniv hosting a children’s pool party without adults to supervise, forcing men to lick a stink ditch or else you’re TrAnSpHoBiC. They not only want to force your standards and barriers to sexual consent to disappear, but to make you unable to speak up.
As I said earlier in the thread - it’s anarchism for degenerate fetish people, and to treat it like a harmless civil rights movement that kills troons if you don’t participate is the optics these losers want.
I’m sperging out and MATI now
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it took two seconds to find this
Her article "Thinking Sex" is widely regarded as a founding text of gay and lesbian studies, sexuality studies, and queer theory.[1][2]
citations are
here is the definition of queer theory, given by one of the most important queer theorists
Queer is by definition whatever is at odds with the normal,
the legitimate, the dominant. There is nothing in particular
to which it necessarily refers. It is an identity without an essence.
David Halperin[1]
[1] Halperin, David, Saint Foucault: Towards a Gay Hagiography, Oxford University Press, Oxford, 1997, p. 62.
another, by someone not so famous
Anti-social queer theory . . . is a queer critique that aims to decenter positivity, productivity, redemptive politics of affirmation, narratives of success, and politics that are founded on hope for an imagined future. It�s rude politics and has no interest in being polite. It embraces masochism, anti-production, self-destructiveness, abjection, forgetfulness, radical passivity, aggressive negation, unintelligibility, negativity, punk pugilism, and anti-social attitudes as a form of resistance to liberal feminist and gay politics of cohesion. It�s about not-becoming because the notion of becoming is perceived as following the capitalist logic of production and models of success that are often tied up with colonialism. It asks, why the fuck should queers be nice? And asserts that politeness is heteronormative and we should embrace our utter failure at functioning within a colonialist, heteronormative, capitalist, racist, sexist and transphobic framework.
Jackie Wang[1]
[1] �Negative Feminism, anti-social queer theory and the politics of hope,� Giulia Tofana the Apothecary,
another
Queer theory obliterates the idea of good and bad sex
and what should and should not be deemed deviant.
Andrew Extein, �Why Queers Should Care About Sex Offenders�[1]
[1] Extein, Andrew, �Why Queers Should Care About Sex Offenders,� Huffington Post, Why Queers Should Care About Sex Offenders
another
Like communists and homosexuals in the 1950s,
boylovers are so stigmatized that it is difficult
to find defenders for their civil liberties,
let alone for their erotic orientation.
Gayle Rubin, in the founding document of �Queer Theory�[1]
[1] Rubin, Gayle, �Thinking Sex: Notes for a Radical Theory of the Politics of Sexuality,� originally published in Vance, Carole, ed, Pleasure and Danger, Routledge & Kegan, Paul, Abingdon, 1984.
https://web.archive.org/web/20121224204605/http://www.feminish.com:80/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Rubin1984.pdf
i can go all day providing sources for how the point of queer theory is to destroy all social norms.
lesbians and gay men have been fighting it for almost four decades. here are a lesbian and two gay men going after queer theory
here is a lesbian and two gay men
As lesbian feminist Sheila Jeffreys writes in Unpacking Queer Politics, �The harmful [sexual] practices that have developed in this period have all been given theoretical justification within queer theory and politics. . . . The new politics was based, quite explicitly, upon a repudiation of lesbian feminist ideas. Queer politics enshrined a cult of masculinity. . . . [T]he political agenda of queer politics is damaging to the interests of lesbians, women in general, and to marginalized and vulnerable constituencies of gay men.�[1]
Gay male author Gabriel Rotello states, �Queer theory seeks to overturn society�s traditional views of sex and sexuality. No one would be stigmatized, no matter what they do; we�re not going to care about social approval. They think society is inherently repressive. But in this epidemic [AIDS] it is impossible to advocate a system in which everything is okay.�[2]
I would say it�s always impossible to advocate a system in which everything is okay.
Andrew Sullivan, another gay writer, has characterized the �essential argument� of queer theory as promoting the notion that �there is no such thing as responsibility, and any attempt to go by the rules is oppressive.�[3]
[1] Jeffreys, Sheila, Unpacking Queer Politics: A Lesbian Feminist Perspective, Polity Press, Cambridge, 2003, p. 2.
[2] Smith, Dinitia, ��Queer Theory� Is Entering The Literary Mainstream,� The New York Times, January 17, 1998. http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/17/books/queer-theory-is-entering-the-literary-mainstream.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
[3] Smith, Dinitia, ��Queer Theory� Is Entering The Literary Mainstream,� The New York Times, January 17, 1998. http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/17/books/queer-theory-is-entering-the-literary-mainstream.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
you'll note BOTH of the men echoed what i said, about how queer theory is about destroying the distinction between what is and isn't socially acceptable. that's the whole fucking point of queer theory.
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According to Wikipedia:
It always comes back to feminists.
So yeah, does the above make sense to you guys, what do you think?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
uhhhhhhh that’s a no, dawg.
Gayle Rubin, Pat Califia, Michel Foucault - the first queer theorists - all openly advocated for pedophilia, and the founding document of queer theory “Thinking Sex” spends over half its length supporting NAMBLA and man-boy lovers. All the original queer theorists argued for a total transgression of every sexual norm, and for people to apply anarchist theory to sexuality, including pedophilia. It’s not just a way to analyze literature. There is a reason so many troons will have “AOA:16-18” of age of attraction 16-18 in their twitter bios. I forget which, but there’s even a queer NYT author who talks a lot about AOA/NOMAPs on twitter and slips it in with his articles.
Gay men had to kick out the pedophiles when gay rights first started. It wasn’t just some gossip that gay men wanted to fuck kids, pedophiles (especially man-boy lovers) were trying to get accepted in the same push as regular gay and lesbians in the 1970s. They went into the shadows, wrote essays in liberal arts colleges, called it “queer theory” and started to wear people down.
That’s why troons are not just stopping at being accepted at work. Trooning kids, sexually grooming kids, people like Yaniv hosting a children’s pool party without adults to supervise, forcing men to lick a stink ditch or else you’re TrAnSpHoBiC. They not only want to force your standards and barriers to sexual consent to disappear, but to make you unable to speak up.
As I said earlier in the thread - it’s anarchism for degenerate fetish people, and to treat it like a harmless civil rights movement that kills troons if you don’t participate is the optics these losers want.
I’m sperging out and MATI now
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it took two seconds to find this
Her article "Thinking Sex" is widely regarded as a founding text of gay and lesbian studies, sexuality studies, and queer theory.[1][2]
citations are
- Binhammer, Katherine (2002). "Thinking Gender with Sexuality in 1790s' Feminist Thought". Feminist Studies. 28(3): 667–690. doi:10.2307/3178798. ISSN 0046-3663. JSTOR 3178798. Rubin's article, often referred to as a founding text of lesbian and gay studies
- ^ Lochrie, Karma (2017-05-19). "Thinking Sex with the Early Moderns by Valerie Traub". Signs: Journal of Women in Culture and Society. 42 (4): 1036–1038. doi:10.1086/690960. ISSN 0097-9740. Gayle Rubin’s foundational essay for queer theory, “Thinking Sex: Notes for a Radical Theory of the Politics of Sexuality” first published in 1984
here is the definition of queer theory, given by one of the most important queer theorists
Queer is by definition whatever is at odds with the normal,
the legitimate, the dominant. There is nothing in particular
to which it necessarily refers. It is an identity without an essence.
David Halperin[1]
[1] Halperin, David, Saint Foucault: Towards a Gay Hagiography, Oxford University Press, Oxford, 1997, p. 62.
another, by someone not so famous
Anti-social queer theory . . . is a queer critique that aims to decenter positivity, productivity, redemptive politics of affirmation, narratives of success, and politics that are founded on hope for an imagined future. It�s rude politics and has no interest in being polite. It embraces masochism, anti-production, self-destructiveness, abjection, forgetfulness, radical passivity, aggressive negation, unintelligibility, negativity, punk pugilism, and anti-social attitudes as a form of resistance to liberal feminist and gay politics of cohesion. It�s about not-becoming because the notion of becoming is perceived as following the capitalist logic of production and models of success that are often tied up with colonialism. It asks, why the fuck should queers be nice? And asserts that politeness is heteronormative and we should embrace our utter failure at functioning within a colonialist, heteronormative, capitalist, racist, sexist and transphobic framework.
Jackie Wang[1]
[1] �Negative Feminism, anti-social queer theory and the politics of hope,� Giulia Tofana the Apothecary,
another
Queer theory obliterates the idea of good and bad sex
and what should and should not be deemed deviant.
Andrew Extein, �Why Queers Should Care About Sex Offenders�[1]
[1] Extein, Andrew, �Why Queers Should Care About Sex Offenders,� Huffington Post, Why Queers Should Care About Sex Offenders
another
Like communists and homosexuals in the 1950s,
boylovers are so stigmatized that it is difficult
to find defenders for their civil liberties,
let alone for their erotic orientation.
Gayle Rubin, in the founding document of �Queer Theory�[1]
[1] Rubin, Gayle, �Thinking Sex: Notes for a Radical Theory of the Politics of Sexuality,� originally published in Vance, Carole, ed, Pleasure and Danger, Routledge & Kegan, Paul, Abingdon, 1984.
https://web.archive.org/web/20121224204605/http://www.feminish.com:80/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Rubin1984.pdf
i can go all day providing sources for how the point of queer theory is to destroy all social norms.
lesbians and gay men have been fighting it for almost four decades. here are a lesbian and two gay men going after queer theory
here is a lesbian and two gay men
As lesbian feminist Sheila Jeffreys writes in Unpacking Queer Politics, �The harmful [sexual] practices that have developed in this period have all been given theoretical justification within queer theory and politics. . . . The new politics was based, quite explicitly, upon a repudiation of lesbian feminist ideas. Queer politics enshrined a cult of masculinity. . . . [T]he political agenda of queer politics is damaging to the interests of lesbians, women in general, and to marginalized and vulnerable constituencies of gay men.�[1]
Gay male author Gabriel Rotello states, �Queer theory seeks to overturn society�s traditional views of sex and sexuality. No one would be stigmatized, no matter what they do; we�re not going to care about social approval. They think society is inherently repressive. But in this epidemic [AIDS] it is impossible to advocate a system in which everything is okay.�[2]
I would say it�s always impossible to advocate a system in which everything is okay.
Andrew Sullivan, another gay writer, has characterized the �essential argument� of queer theory as promoting the notion that �there is no such thing as responsibility, and any attempt to go by the rules is oppressive.�[3]
[1] Jeffreys, Sheila, Unpacking Queer Politics: A Lesbian Feminist Perspective, Polity Press, Cambridge, 2003, p. 2.
[2] Smith, Dinitia, ��Queer Theory� Is Entering The Literary Mainstream,� The New York Times, January 17, 1998. http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/17/books/queer-theory-is-entering-the-literary-mainstream.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
[3] Smith, Dinitia, ��Queer Theory� Is Entering The Literary Mainstream,� The New York Times, January 17, 1998. http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/17/books/queer-theory-is-entering-the-literary-mainstream.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
you'll note BOTH of the men echoed what i said, about how queer theory is about destroying the distinction between what is and isn't socially acceptable. that's the whole fucking point of queer theory.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
According to Wikipedia:
It always comes back to feminists.
So yeah, does the above make sense to you guys, what do you think?
