An interesting read shedding some light on human perception and why our current state of society may be the way it does (as in, why everything is racist sexist and bigoted when objectively those things have been all but eliminated in the west)
"Prevalence-induced concept change in human judgment" or 'Why world seems to become worse and filled with nazis despite it actually getting better'
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An interesting read shedding some light on human perception and why our current state of society may be the way it does (as in, why everything is racist sexist and bigoted when objectively those things have been all but eliminated in the west)
LordsFire
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Had been all but eliminated. Over the last decade and some racism and sexism against white people and men has been aggressively ramping up.
Tryglaw
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Revolutionary logic - for one, you can't sustain your revolutionary zeal, nor the mobilization against the "common enemy", say, bourgeoise or kulaks, if you've ran out of both to kill.
Two, internal power plays, for those in power to keep power, they need an enemy that "needs" struggling against, so when the bourgeoise and the kulaks are all safely dead, you move on to (ever-expanding group / definition of) counter-revolutionaries and reactionaries to keep the "ball" rolling.
In the end, it's the politics of power: power has 3 basic goals, these being: gain it, keep it, expand it. The "need" to struggle against a designated foe helps all three.
And this goes both for given political / ideological groups as such, as well for individual people within them.
To a degree, this is why state institutions with a stated goal of resolving given problem, say, alcoholism, all heroically struggle to solve the problem, but never to actually resolve it for good. Simply because actually resolving a given problem for good would negate their very purpose of existence - after all, why would anyone keep around all those bureaucratic jobs (and the power that comes with them) meant to combat alcoholism if people wouldn't ever drink with a 100% abstinence rate...
As long as a problem exists, it can (and those who benefit from doing so will all argue it very much needs to) be struggled against. Once the problem is no more, the justification for all those cushy jobs evaporates.
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I think a major cause of activism whether that be modern day civil rights activism or activism against drunk driving or whatever is so prevalent because we live in such a comfortable and relatively peaceful society.
People need a cause to fight for, a monster to slay. Without one their lives become purposeless and empty.
A large number of people simply have to devote their lives to some sort of cause-and since religion doesn't inspire the same passion it used to people find political and social causes no matter how inane or pointless or inflammatory because without it-they'd sit around and have to ask existential questions like "what am i doing with my life", "why do I feel empty and guilty", "what is my real purpose"?
These people have two other options to choose from-live lives of blissful slow going hedonism, or...become religious and express their desires to be active and "fighting for the cause" that way.
The former is unappealing because its sort of boring and free time means thinking time, the latter is unappealing because to be devoted to a religion you have to actually believe in it.
People need a cause to fight for, a monster to slay. Without one their lives become purposeless and empty.
A large number of people simply have to devote their lives to some sort of cause-and since religion doesn't inspire the same passion it used to people find political and social causes no matter how inane or pointless or inflammatory because without it-they'd sit around and have to ask existential questions like "what am i doing with my life", "why do I feel empty and guilty", "what is my real purpose"?
These people have two other options to choose from-live lives of blissful slow going hedonism, or...become religious and express their desires to be active and "fighting for the cause" that way.
The former is unappealing because its sort of boring and free time means thinking time, the latter is unappealing because to be devoted to a religion you have to actually believe in it.
LordsFire
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Religion is no less capable of inspiring the passion that it used to, there's just a variety of secular religions people often choose from amongst now.
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Yeah I was just referring to industrialized western societies specifically though.
Cyan Saiyajin
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The major issue is that these movements have adopted a framework, "Critical Race Theory", "Patriarchal Theory" and "Intersectional feminism" to name a few ways this framework takes. That interprets all forms of social inequality and injustices as being racist or sexist. Examples will always be interpreted in a way that promotes the framework, Hench the further down the rabbit hole you go, the more the framework does it job. The more innocuous the examples get. Because your looking for the explanation that fits the framework, not something that might be more accurate if it contradicts the framework.
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Critical Theory is innately flexible.
It can’t be refuted because it’s not based on science or logic-but on subjective attitudes and presumptions.
That’s what makes it so dangerous.
Anything and everything no matter how innocuous or unrelated can and will be interpreted in that framework. It’s elastic and basically designed to encompass everything in a totalizing narrative.
It can’t be refuted because it’s not based on science or logic-but on subjective attitudes and presumptions.
That’s what makes it so dangerous.
Anything and everything no matter how innocuous or unrelated can and will be interpreted in that framework. It’s elastic and basically designed to encompass everything in a totalizing narrative.
This is not a new thing.
Let me explain how these guys think, because I had to work with these asshats.
Any difference in out come happens because some one cheated.
Its that mother fucking simple.
If some one lives frugally for years to save up for a house and buys it after saceficing for years and they live in apartment. It doesnt matter that you make the same salary, it doesnt matter that you work the same hours. It doesnt matter that they ate shittier food and didnt go out to make that happen.
You have a house and they dont so you cheated and they have every right to your shit.
Thats their thought process.
And no they do not give a flying shit about the poor, or ethnic minorities because if they make more they will turn on them the minute they succede dont belive me? See how they treat asians and Jews. Once you understand that simple core issue you understand them.
Their not nearly as complex as they say they are.