Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

[mrttao]

No, they dismissed the impeachment. So he stays in the job.

... oh. motherfuckers

 

[Zachowon]

... oh. motherfuckers

It's the senate.
Anything the house does that the right wants, will never get through congress

 

[DarthOne]

It's the senate.
Anything the house does that the right wants, will never get through congress

because we are ruled by the Uniparty, essentially.

 

[Zachowon]

because we are ruled by the Uniparty, essentially.

It wouldn't matter if Hiuse had all due hard MAGA members.
Senate would say no.

 

[Cherico]

It wouldn't matter if Hiuse had all due hard MAGA members.
Senate would say no.

The senate as it is will not last forever.

 

[DarthOne]

It wouldn't matter if Hiuse had all due hard MAGA members.
Senate would say no.

So our choices are either ‘obstructionism’ or ‘let our enemies get what they want with nothing or next to nothing in return’.

Well, I chose option A.

 

[Zachowon]

So our choices are either ‘obstructionism’ or ‘let our enemies get what they want with nothing or next to nothing in return’.

Well, I chose option A.

What obstructionism?
Biden has used his EO capabilities to bypass congress numerous times.

Stop acting like there is a high horse here.

 

[DarthOne]

What obstructionism?
Biden has used his EO capabilities to bypass congress numerous times.

Stop acting like there is a high horse here.

So your plan is to cooperate with the enemy instead? Yeah, Biden can use executive orders....but every time he does, he shows his hand and that can be used against him in the optics war.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

So your plan is to cooperate with the enemy instead? Yeah, Biden can use executive orders....but every time he does, he shows his hand and that can be used against him in the optics war.

And Executive Orders are relatively easy to counter in court if there's no legislation backing them.

 

[Zachowon]

So your plan is to cooperate with the enemy instead? Yeah, Biden can use executive orders....but every time he does, he shows his hand and that can be used against him in the optics war.

The optics war that the left controls?
And no my plan isn't thay. My plan would be to use the optics the left use against us against them. Make a ukraine bill truly bipartisan and force them to give thing sup in response.
Instead they play the right like a fiddle

And Executive Orders are relatively easy to counter in court if there's no legislation backing them.

But that takes time.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

So our choices are either ‘obstructionism’ or ‘let our enemies get what they want with nothing or next to nothing in return’.

No, our choices are to win or die "gloriously".

We plan to win. You intend to reenact Varro's charge at Canae. We are not the same.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

But that takes time.

Yup, everything does.

Don't fall into the trap that we can't do many things at one time. There's lots of us.

 

[Zachowon]

Yup, everything does.

Don't fall into the trap that we can't do many things at one time. There's lots of us.

I know.
I am not into that trap.
We have shown numerous times we can do many things.
This site is just full of doom

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I know.
I am not into that trap.
We have shown numerous times we can do many things.
This site is just full of doom

Too much echo going on does that.

Get out in the world away from the nonsense whenever you can.

 

[Zachowon]

Too much echo going on does that.

Get out in the world away from the nonsense whenever you can.

I do a lot actually.
It's nice.
Same woth work.
It's just here is a cesspool of scum and villainy (joke people joke)

 

[Poe]

And no my plan isn't thay. My plan would be to use the optics the left use against us against them. Make a ukraine bill truly bipartisan and force them to give thing sup in response.

This doesn't work. These bills are always one sided, with Republicans having to compromise, and then the media works in tandem to shout how the dems actually gave the Republicans everything they want despite not giving them anything. Rinse, repeat. The Democrats do not compromise, ever, and when Republicans play tit for tat they are labelled obstructionists.

 

[Captain X]

Pretty laughable coming from her, but that's commies for you - always accusing others of that which they are guilty of themselves.

 

[Zachowon]

This doesn't work. These bills are always one sided, with Republicans having to compromise, and then the media works in tandem to shout how the dems actually gave the Republicans everything they want despite not giving them anything. Rinse, repeat. The Democrats do not compromise, ever, and when Republicans play tit for tat they are labelled obstructionists.

Had the house done one bill at a time things would be better.

But Republicans have control over the house.
They could stop any amendment they don't want.

But because if establishment ones, they don't.

 

[mrttao]

Looking at the bill
> For: Every single demonrats without a single exception. half republicucks
> Against: Half republicucks. literally 0 demonrats

 

[Poe]

Had the house done one bill at a time things would be better.

But Republicans have control over the house.
They could stop any amendment they don't want.

But because if establishment ones, they don't.

This is exactly what the house republicans have tried to do since literally last year. Republicans want a border bill before funding overseas, the dems do not want to compromise on the border, thus yet again dems got everything they want because Republicans took the flack for not passing these bills and teamed up with dems to pass a big bill.

One at a time doesn't work because there's no guarantee you'll actually be able to pass the ones you care about.