Plausibility Check: An Austro-Hungarian sale of Bukovina (or at least southern Bukovina) to Romania?

WolfBear

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Got it mixed up with the Ukrainian counteroffensive against the Bolsheviks:

Ukraine has full NATO support and roughly 30 years of peace to develop as a state.

Interesting. IMHO, if the White Russians were smart, then they would have made a deal with the Ukrainians and Poles to ally together to defeat the Bolsheviks in exchange for giving the Ukrainians and Poles whatever they would have wanted.

True, but then again, Poland was only very recently recreated in 1920-1921 and yet it still managed to win a war against the Soviet Union back then.
 

sillygoose

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Interesting. IMHO, if the White Russians were smart, then they would have made a deal with the Ukrainians and Poles to ally together to defeat the Bolsheviks in exchange for giving the Ukrainians and Poles whatever they would have wanted.

True, but then again, Poland was only very recently recreated in 1920-1921 and yet it still managed to win a war against the Soviet Union back then.
Well they were more interested in resurrecting the empire in total and thought they could win on there own. By the time they realized allied help wasnt enough it was too late
 

WolfBear

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Well they were more interested in resurrecting the empire in total and thought they could win on there own. By the time they realized allied help wasnt enough it was too late

*On their own. (typo)

Anyway, that's the problem. They overestimated their own strength and Russia paid very, very dearly for their miscalculation. It would have been better for them to simply give up some more Russian peripheral territories in exchange for increasing their odds of winning the main war against the Bolsheviks. It's not like either central Ukraine or Belarus were particularly vital for Russia anyway. And even then they might have had a chance to eventually reclaim these territories if Germany ever went revanchist, though I think that in such a scenario it would have been wiser for the Russians to ally with the Poles and to prop them up instead.
 

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