peter Zeihan 2020

[bullethead]

People are blowing up Russia's Siberian railroads, making it harder to ship things to China:


Google's doing a geothermal pilot project by using shale tech to reach hotspots deep underground to generate energy:

 

[DarthOne]

People are blowing up Russia's Siberian railroads, making it harder to ship things to China:


Google's doing a geothermal pilot project by using shale tech to reach hotspots deep underground to generate energy:

Bet you $50 it's the CIA or backed by them.

 

[bullethead]

Bet you $50 it's the CIA or backed by them.

Probably, some Ukranians supposedly took credit for it, which is not very believable.

 

[Zachowon]

Could be anti putin Russians

 

[Cherico]

Bet you $50 it's the CIA or backed by them.

Even odds.

 

[Marduk]

Bet you $50 it's the CIA or backed by them.

That would imply unlikely huge balls for democrat run CIA with competence to boot.

 

[DarthOne]

That would imply unlikely huge balls for democrat run CIA with competence to boot.

They seem to be doing a good enough job keeping the Right on their toes.

 

[Marduk]

They seem to be doing a good enough job keeping the Right on their toes.

Their people pointed out on the internet, and that's without having a professional intel service trying to track them.

 

[Cherico]

That would imply unlikely huge balls for democrat run CIA with competence to boot.

Your really over estimating how much competence it takes to do this.

Russia is huge and their military cant be everywhere at once and in fact much of it is currently in Ukraine, there is no way that russia can patrol all of this land. You can do this with 5 guys and some light explosives.

 

[Grimalkin]

That would imply unlikely huge balls for democrat run CIA with competence to boot.

You've got that order wrong it's CIA run Democrats.

 

[DarthOne]

You've got that order wrong it's CIA run Democrats.

Excellent point. Also the Republicans.

 

[Grimalkin]

Excellent point. Also the Republicans.

Almost all of the Republicans, All of the Democrats. I'm still hopeful that Vivek isn't controlled opposition.

 

[Marduk]

Your really over estimating how much competence it takes to do this.

Russia is huge and their military cant be everywhere at once and in fact much of it is currently in Ukraine, there is no way that russia can patrol all of this land. You can do this with 5 guys and some light explosives.

Still, you have to infiltrate the guys, infiltrate the hardware, exfiltrate them, and not have them caught by any sort of police in the process of any of these things lest you want a massive diplomatic scandal.
Ukrainians have a lot of contacts inside, porous border, and if anyone gets caught, the agents will be killed or imprisoned, but at least they are at war already, so nothing to lose in diplomacy for them.

 

[LordsFire]

Plus, there's a lot of Ukrainians who are already fully fluent in Russian.

 

[Cherico]

Still, you have to infiltrate the guys, infiltrate the hardware, exfiltrate them, and not have them caught by any sort of police in the process of any of these things lest you want a massive diplomatic scandal.
Ukrainians have a lot of contacts inside, porous border, and if anyone gets caught, the agents will be killed or imprisoned, but at least they are at war already, so nothing to lose in diplomacy for them.

while that does make things more complicated.

As military ops go this is actually pretty simple all you need to do is get out in the boonies and strike. It of course helps that much of russias military is occupied and its so big that it cant help but have vulerabilities.

 

[Marduk]

while that does make things more complicated.

As military ops go this is actually pretty simple all you need to do is get out in the boonies and strike. It of course helps that much of russias military is occupied and its so big that it cant help but have vulerabilities.

It's not military who's watching this kind of stuff, if anyone.
Russia has a lot of police and other assorted uniformed services for this kind of stuff, so getting in and out of country undetected, including getting to said boonies and back which takes days of travel by land, is always bit of a risk.

 

[Cherico]

It's not military who's watching this kind of stuff, if anyone.
Russia has a lot of police and other assorted uniformed services for this kind of stuff, so getting in and out of country undetected, including getting to said boonies and back which takes days of travel by land, is always bit of a risk.

all military operations by nature have risk associated with them.

 

[PeaceMaker 03]

China economic attack on Finland.

Finland declares war on China and just sinks any Chinese ship that enters the Baltic or North Sea. What is China going to do send a fleet to Finland?

 

[DarthOne]

China economic attack on Finland.

Finland declares war on China and just sinks any Chinese ship that enters the Baltic or North Sea. What is China going to do send a fleet to Finland?

Of course it’s the Fins.

 

[JagerIV]

Review/Critique of Zeilhan, mostly looking at his general China claims.