On Masculinity and the concept of a Gentleman

[Guncannon]

A weak ass man usually.

The weak ass man saved $20-$50 by letting the woman pay half, and got a free meal when she insists on paying full. You can be held up by your ego and your fear of being "suckered" (cheated on, ripped off, etc, it all falls under the fear of getting fucked over by someone), or you can be pragmatic and understand that someone's desire to be seen as an equal means more money kept in your bank.

These are the things that have worked for me consistently. I have a wife and 3 children from doing the things I describe. I want others to be able to do this to I'm jot going to stop trying to help them. Simply because it offends your sensibilities or whatever. I know for a fact that it'll work so why should I stop?

Contrary to your belief, your confirmation bias doesn't award you a pedestal to preach things that will most likey not get modern Western men in a mutually beneficial relationship unless they're looking for the kind of woman you married.

The rest of your redpilled nonsense might apply to the more conservative women out there that adhere to that parasitic mindset, but that mindset is not restricted to women. If your living life with the constant fear that your wife will cheat on you unless you're constantly exhibiting your "manliness" and control over her, then my condolences. If she actually thinks that about herself, then you have my pity.

 

[Lanmandragon]

The weak ass man saved $20-$50 by letting the woman pay half, and got a free meal when she insists on paying full. You can be held up by your ego and your fear of being "suckered" (cheated on, ripped off, etc, it all falls under the fear of getting fucked over by someone), or you can be pragmatic and understand that someone's desire to be seen as an equal means more money kept in your bank.


Contrary to your belief, your confirmation bias doesn't award you a pedestal to preach things that will most likey not get modern Western men in a mutually beneficial relationship unless they're looking for the kind of woman you married.

The rest of your redpilled nonsense might apply to the more conservative women out there that adhere to that parasitic mindset, but that mindset is not restricted to women. If your living life with the constant fear that your wife will cheat on you unless you're constantly exhibiting your "manliness" and control over her, then my condolences. If she actually thinks that about herself, then you have my pity.

Right so you admit it works in your post. The rest I frankly don't care about at all. Your opinion of me or my family is totally irrelevant as far a "pedestal". I'm going to say what I want to say if you don't like it block me or ignore my posts. Pretty straightforward not as if I know you anyway.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

In some cases, it could be a matter of cultural expectations. The woman wanting to pay her share might be trying to say: "I want to be your helpmeet, not a sponge on you."

This is something you as a guy offer to do, but if she's like "nah, we'll split it" that's fine as well. On the first date, the one paying should be the one who took the initiative (and that better fucking be the man). My woman likes to split checks, unless its booze, then I'm always buying, mostly because she's a fucking uncultured savage who thinks red label from Johnny Walker is high end booze and I ain't having that kind of barbarity in my household thank you very much.

the moment you inist "I am a man, your pretty much screaming "I'm a weak beta male that can be walked with little to no confidence aside from a MGTOW speech." nice guys finish last because they are too busy insisting they are men rather than trying to actually getting to know the woman or God forbid an actual helpmate.

Nice guys don't finish last, meek guys finish last. There's a huge difference between being a gentlemen and being a gigantic cuck or a simp. One, when mixed with assertiveness tends to get the girl more often than the bad asses, the other two? Well...social "dysgenics" invite exploitation...And most women are going to indulge in their instincts to keep the DNA strong by coring those motherfuckers.

Don't date girls online for one get to know the parents two make sure you've got the same endgoal before you decide to tie the knot/stick your shaft in. If all your looking for is sex and procreation, again get an egg donor and either a toy or something to get your jollies off.

Never stick your dick in crazy for that matter...Ever.

what kind of man gets trigged about whether they can or not?

Back..in...I'm guessing the last time @Lanmandragon was still in the game was what? Mid to late 90's? Going by how long you've said you were married.

If a woman back then offered to foot the bill for dinner, it was because she was interested in pumping and dumping your ass and fucking half your friends..It was basically an invitation to get cucked..So I don't blame him for saying "walk the fuck out the joint" on that...Back then and in the 80's, it was a thing for upwardly mobile women to dote on men just to make them look like complete clowns at their own amusement. It was part of the materialism of that era and that weird, fucked up power feminism.

Now it's a bit different...Also in certain sub cultures..you just don't do that.

Letting your woman pay your way, is basically like opening your wrist in a shark tank in said cultures.

As I said before, now its arguably..different....But yeah.

 

[Deleted member 88]

It depends, I've been on dates where I paid the bill, and sometimes I let the woman pay.

(Mostly because they were girls I saw as friends, not girlfriends), the chivalrous thing to do is ask to pay.

If its just a one time thing, or its your female friend, and they refuse?

I'm honestly not offended, I would prefer I be allowed to exercise my gentlemanly graces, but whatever.

Who pays the bill depends largely on what you want out of it.

So my advice would be to offer, and ask at least twice-if the woman refuses, then fine let her pay for hers.