DarthOne
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Maybe we’ll get (un?)lucky and Trump will do that in his second term...
On china
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Lanmandragon
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I doubt it and make no mistake it wouldn't be a picnic. Doing so would hurt us economically but it's both morally correct. As well as strategically sound funding your rival is stupid. Imagine something like a heroi addict getting clean. Yeah it sucks haed when it's happening but it's all for the best.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
It's not about the size, it's how you use it.
Lanmandragon
Well-known member
Please of labor in S. America countries like Brazil. Should be thrilled to get the bussiness.
As much as I love brazil their problem is that they have a fucking mountain range between their productive regions and international markets.
That's literally what has been fucking them over as a country for centuries now.
Lanmandragon
Well-known member
Intercontinental railroad from Rio to say Houston.(I'm aware that wouldn't work. I'm also aware of Brazil's issues. I just said the first S. American country I could think of. The point is we can manufacturer in our backyard. Also Happy Chanukah.)
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
The belief in the West that resource extraction and industrial production are bad (because realtively low profit margins and enviromental impact) and should be moved to third world, with Western society dedicating itself to debt driven service economy. It was the excuse for shipping the industry offshore from the eighties on and systematic destruction of the working class a bipartisan project between the left and right affiliated elites.
It actually wasn't.
China has been playing the long game in challenging our military supremacy in the region and that is a big no-no. You are not going to use our military protection to finance a military to defeat that same military protection. Right now, China has a huge glaring weakness in their reliance upon our markets, but China has always intended to change that fact. They want a more domestic consumption lead economy. That is not probably possible in the short term, given the 1 child policy fucked them hard, but if China were to endure that, they might eventually be able to find alternative markets or develop a domestic market independent of us and we'd lose all leverage on them. As it is, China has financed a massive string of economic projects across Asia and even Africa to pre-position itself for future military power projection. It's subtle and expensive, but it is there.
Thanks to Trump, not only has the illusion of a current super power China been defeated, but the pressure on China shows just how nasty they truly are, with their treatment of Hong Kong, their treatment of African workers, and the slave labor/ethnic cleansing of the Uligur peoples. In addition to which, it has the domestic advantage for Trump of hamstringing major tech corps that have done nothing but undermine his authority and are political rivals to him.
The collapse of the Chinese removes the threat to US Freedom of Navigation, it removes the threat of them projecting power into the Middle East and into Russia, and it divorces the US from the very real slave labor they impose upon their own subjects.