ASOIAF/GOT Numenor in/near Westeros

CarlManvers2019

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By act of ROB, Numenor and its Inhabitants find themselves in the Planetos, say near the Iron Islands or Skagos

Given that I had a really hard time even knowing what was going on in Silmarillion, its up to any of you to decide when Numenor is ISOT’d

As for Westeros? Let’s say 276 AC before Aerys is held hostage in Duskendale and goes mad

How do the Numenoreans proceed to interact with the Westerosi and presumably Essosi?

I think the Iron Islanders and Essosi Slavers would want to raid it and the Westerosi Houses will keep on proposing marriages and maybe want to commit revenge upon rejection
 
...I'm pretty sure Numenor would roll the Valyrian freehold at its height.

Like...on the one hand, the sea kings bring about an era of unparalleled prosperity to the world of Ice and Fire, on the other hand. They were kind of gigantic dicks and tended to react to lesser men giving them the finger by exterminating said lessermen.

Tywin Lannister would try his shit in the court of the Sea Kings and the Rock would turn into a smoldering crater.
 
I imagine that looking at a Numenorean King who's older than him but still looks relatively young'd piss him off

I don't know if he would care about that. He would try and throw his nuts around but the moment he got mind probed he would probably go back to the rock and shut himself in and stay there for a few years until the shock wears off.
 
...I'm pretty sure Numenor would roll the Valyrian freehold at its height.

Like...on the one hand, the sea kings bring about an era of unparalleled prosperity to the world of Ice and Fire, on the other hand. They were kind of gigantic dicks and tended to react to lesser men giving them the finger by exterminating said lessermen.

They were pretty solidly good guys back in the day.
 
They were pretty solidly good guys back in the day.

I mean more in their capacity to retaliate with zero restraint. The non canon shit about them being slavers that gets brought up by edge lords aside. the House of Elros tended to have a Minbari's concept of "appropriate responses to hostility"

So time to go stop all the primitive and "evil" men from being horribly cruel to one another?

Man the North would become stupid wealthy and likely way more populated as Numenorean agriculture and tech gets traded over and negates the harsh effects of winter. If this is during the era of the good kings, then I expect there to be a lot of crossover in terms of alliances with the stark but there likely wouldn't be any marriage pacts. Lesser Numenoreans may take up settling around White Harbor which is suddenly going to become vastly wealthier and more prosperous. There'd be an exodus of small folk into the North if Bob's rebellion begins.

As for how they'd interact with Westeros..The King of Numenor is an Emperor in all but name and master of the most advanced, militarily and financially powerful entity on the planet and its got weaponry that would fodderize Others and probably even make a decent penetration into Sothoryos. These dudes are what Vlaryians wished they were and that's the other thing.

Depending on who sits on the Throne..there will be conquest. Because even the beneficent kings still established colonies. Granted I think they'd invade the Step Stones and go after slaver's bay and likely form a very strong alliance with Braavos and House Stark...which lets be real here, is going to cause the Tyrells, the Hightowers and the Lannisters to shit a brick..and Aerys now has a superpower that renders his entire dynasty as little more than curiosities right next door.


I think the Iron Islanders and Essosi Slavers would want to raid it and the Westerosi Houses will keep on proposing marriages and maybe want to commit revenge upon rejection

The Iron Islanders would cease to exist the moment they slaughtered some Numenorean civilians and Essosi slavers might end up conquered.

TBH assuming The King of the Seas sits Robert's rebellion out..and honestly, I don't think they would. In the sense that its a dangerous civil war by the one power that can rival them, under thraldom of a tyrant..and they likely would be rather close to the Starks of Winterfell for a myriad of reasons. It's certainly possible..and assured in their more imperialistic days that they'd get involved.

At which point we see Robert Baratheon decked out in Numenorean forged armor at the trident. And It's entirely possible the army that reaches kings landing first, flies the banners of the Dire Wolf and the White tree.

Which opens up a whole can o'worms.
 
Iron Islands are definitely screwed. Numenor's navy is age of exploration tier at the very least, with magic buffs.
 
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Lesser Numenoreans migrating to areas like White Harbor? Wouldn't that mean they have to swear fealty to the Lesser Men who are Lords and they probably have heard or know about some really fucked up shit related to Westerosi Houses

Wouldn't no Marriage Prospects result in House Stark and others feeling "slighted"?

So would those Houses think the Numenoreans plan on conquering their lands next? I mean, if they go after the Stepstones and Slaver's Bay, they maybe indicating that they really really really really dislike slavers and pirates

Yeah, I think the Targaryens will feel even worse, especially without dragons to look dangerous

Also, slaughtering the Iron Islanders? I presume that means putting every single Reaver and Drownpriest to the sword and anybody who profits or gains off reaving, so that means the end of the Iron Islands' Houses unless they spare the children who are too young to have resaved

Even invading due to retaliation would make other Houses feel threatened and say it was "unprovoked"

As for teaming up with the STAB to get to King's Landing? I am very sure the Numenoreans would be horribly shocked by all the war-crimes the Men-At-Arms and Knights and Lords will keep on doing with partial justification that doing sacking is the "real pay" for becoming a soldier

That may sour relations, with the STAB not exactly understanding why the Numenoreans disapprove so much
 

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