raharris1973
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#1 What if a branch of the English Puritans set up a colony in the Cape of South Africa instead of New England? [not a Drake scenario]
In the late 1620s as John Winthrop is setting up the Massachusetts Bay colony, a secondary effort is set up to establish a colony at the southern Cape of Africa. It is also seen as a place where the Puritans can set up a community to their liking, away from what they dislike in England and Europe. The sea routes to the Cape are known, and some thought is provided that besides being a self-sufficient community, the colony can also serve as a stopover and resupply point for ships of the English East India Company. Also, so location is not considered too dangerous as its between Portuguese rather than Spanish colonies.
This happens about 20 years before the Dutch set up the OTL Cape Colony (1652). The Puritans are able to survive and grow wheat crops and fish and herd sheep in the Mediterranean climate. The Cape colony has decent migration and population growth. The immigration of some Provencal French Calvinist Huguenots helps with adaptation of some additional Mediterranean crops and vines appropriate for the climate.
Cape Colony gives a valuable boost to India Company commerce in the 1600s, with Cape men eventually often getting involved in the India, Persia and China trades, while also expanding farming and herding inland into the lands of the Khoisan peoples. There will also be trade with the Portuguese and more inland African peoples for ship timbers, which may not be plentiful on the Cape.
I suspect that Puritan migration would slow down during the Puritan ascendancy in England, but pick up again after Restoration.
The culture and demographic base of the colony give it potential to grow more in population than the Dutch Cape Colony. It could theoretically lead to an earlier colonization/exploitation of (probably western) Australia, and it might theoretically develop separatist sentiments like America.
#2 What if the French preempted English claims to North America by following up on the Verrazano expedition?
The French in the 1520s traced the North American coast from North Carolina to New York to Nova Scotia with the Verrazano expedition, and then traced the St. Lawrence as far as Montreal with the Cartier expedition of the 1530s.
In the meantime, Henry the VIII was completely uninterested in oceanic exploration, doing plenty of spending and adventuring closer to home.
Ultimately, there's were only a few half-hearted Huguenot attempts at colonies in the Florida-South Carolina region by France that century, too close to Spain, and destroyed by them, and the French didn't follow up in Canada until the 1600s.
But what if the French Crown under Francis I, who was a rival of Charles V and known to remark he thought the Treaty of Tordesillas obnoxious, had decided to follow up the Verrazano expedition with some colonies serving as bases for further exploration, trading posts, and missions. Furthermore, let's say the first surviving French colony is situated at a more remote distance from the Spanish, at Manhattan, which Verrazano called Nouvelle Angouleme, and subsequent colonies and mission went down to about the Chesapeake.
A few of these get going before France gets bogged down in its wars of religion.
Later on the French end up setting up their Acadian and Canadian colonies, on schedule or a bit ahead of time.
#3 What if Henry VII lived ten more years? Consequences for exploration overseas, the country at home, and neighboring relations?
Henry VII died at age 52 in 1509. What if he lived until he was 62 years old, until 1519?
Domestically, he was known for being politically savvy and fiscally responsible, so the English exchequer is likely in better shape in 1519-1520 than it was in OTL. Additionally, he supported the exploratory voyages of John and Sebastian Cabot to North America, and apparently some other voyages until his death, which his son showed no interest in. With another ten years of royal patronage, perhaps some permanent English colonies get started in North America nearly a century ahead of OTL's schedule? And they start off Catholic.
In the late 1620s as John Winthrop is setting up the Massachusetts Bay colony, a secondary effort is set up to establish a colony at the southern Cape of Africa. It is also seen as a place where the Puritans can set up a community to their liking, away from what they dislike in England and Europe. The sea routes to the Cape are known, and some thought is provided that besides being a self-sufficient community, the colony can also serve as a stopover and resupply point for ships of the English East India Company. Also, so location is not considered too dangerous as its between Portuguese rather than Spanish colonies.
This happens about 20 years before the Dutch set up the OTL Cape Colony (1652). The Puritans are able to survive and grow wheat crops and fish and herd sheep in the Mediterranean climate. The Cape colony has decent migration and population growth. The immigration of some Provencal French Calvinist Huguenots helps with adaptation of some additional Mediterranean crops and vines appropriate for the climate.
Cape Colony gives a valuable boost to India Company commerce in the 1600s, with Cape men eventually often getting involved in the India, Persia and China trades, while also expanding farming and herding inland into the lands of the Khoisan peoples. There will also be trade with the Portuguese and more inland African peoples for ship timbers, which may not be plentiful on the Cape.
I suspect that Puritan migration would slow down during the Puritan ascendancy in England, but pick up again after Restoration.
The culture and demographic base of the colony give it potential to grow more in population than the Dutch Cape Colony. It could theoretically lead to an earlier colonization/exploitation of (probably western) Australia, and it might theoretically develop separatist sentiments like America.
#2 What if the French preempted English claims to North America by following up on the Verrazano expedition?
The French in the 1520s traced the North American coast from North Carolina to New York to Nova Scotia with the Verrazano expedition, and then traced the St. Lawrence as far as Montreal with the Cartier expedition of the 1530s.
In the meantime, Henry the VIII was completely uninterested in oceanic exploration, doing plenty of spending and adventuring closer to home.
Ultimately, there's were only a few half-hearted Huguenot attempts at colonies in the Florida-South Carolina region by France that century, too close to Spain, and destroyed by them, and the French didn't follow up in Canada until the 1600s.
But what if the French Crown under Francis I, who was a rival of Charles V and known to remark he thought the Treaty of Tordesillas obnoxious, had decided to follow up the Verrazano expedition with some colonies serving as bases for further exploration, trading posts, and missions. Furthermore, let's say the first surviving French colony is situated at a more remote distance from the Spanish, at Manhattan, which Verrazano called Nouvelle Angouleme, and subsequent colonies and mission went down to about the Chesapeake.
A few of these get going before France gets bogged down in its wars of religion.
Later on the French end up setting up their Acadian and Canadian colonies, on schedule or a bit ahead of time.
#3 What if Henry VII lived ten more years? Consequences for exploration overseas, the country at home, and neighboring relations?
Henry VII died at age 52 in 1509. What if he lived until he was 62 years old, until 1519?
Domestically, he was known for being politically savvy and fiscally responsible, so the English exchequer is likely in better shape in 1519-1520 than it was in OTL. Additionally, he supported the exploratory voyages of John and Sebastian Cabot to North America, and apparently some other voyages until his death, which his son showed no interest in. With another ten years of royal patronage, perhaps some permanent English colonies get started in North America nearly a century ahead of OTL's schedule? And they start off Catholic.