What If? Males can participate in women’s sports and competitions?

[CarlManvers2019]

The women’s sports competitions and divisions are still referred to as such

But any and all males who win physical categories, can all enter

And you don’t even have to identify as a woman to do so?

This starts in the year 2000

How does the sport adapt to the presence of males in these female centric areas?

And before some people go on about differences in bodies, well women just have to train and eat harder and better

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

The women’s sports competitions and divisions are still referred to as such

But any and all males who win physical categories, can all enter

And you don’t even have to identify as a woman to do so?

This starts in the year 2000

How does the sport adapt to the presence of males in these female centric areas?

And before some people go on about differences in bodies, well women just have to train and eat harder and better

I was going to say it dies likening it to the transgender sport movement but it's possible that sports recruiters would actually be forced to scout talent in more obscure places. if your dealing with a strongman competition or a strength heavy sport like football, you're going to have to find women that are much taller and potentially heavier than your average woman or if it's something like track, your going to need to find a woman that is faster and more agile.

Either the concept of women in sport dies altogether (Which would honestly be kind of sad IMO but still the most likely outcome) or women as a whole would adapt to the point they can compete with their male peers. selective breeding and evolution at it's most organic.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Either the concept of women in sport dies altogether (Which would honestly be kind of sad IMO but still the most likely outcome) or women as a whole would adapt to the point they can compete with their male peers. selective breeding and evolution at it's most organic.

Organic? So it's all good genetics? Feels lazy



This is better

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Organic? So it's all good genetics? Feels lazy



This is better

you didin't tell me this thread takes place in a world that goes by anime physics. In that case it's a battle of the sexes arms race.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

you didin't tell me this thread takes place in a world that goes by anime physics. In that case it's a battle of the sexes arms race.

Anime Physics? Well, at some point THIS will be a show of the fight between the sexes

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

I was going to say it dies likening it to the transgender sport movement but it's possible that sports recruiters would actually be forced to scout talent in more obscure places. if your dealing with a strongman competition or a strength heavy sport like football, you're going to have to find women that are much taller and potentially heavier than your average woman or if it's something like track, your going to need to find a woman that is faster and more agile.

Either the concept of women in sport dies altogether (Which would honestly be kind of sad IMO but still the most likely outcome) or women as a whole would adapt to the point they can compete with their male peers. selective breeding and evolution at it's most organic.

The strongest women in the entire world are not even middling in strength competitions. They aren't even competitive with smaller, lighter men. The idea you could selectively breed the women to not only close, but surpass, that gap, is ludicrous.

 

[Lanmandragon]

Men who wouldn't ever be noticed in men's sports. Proceed to not only dominate but break every single record wuthin the first year. By year 3 at the latest there flaty aren't any broads in sports. We don't separate the sexes for arbitrary reasons. Women even highly trained women can not compete physically with men. Seriously Carl what did you think would happen?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Men who wouldn't ever be noticed in men's sports. Proceed to not only dominate but break every single record wuthin the first year. By year 3 at the latest there flaty aren't any broads in sports. We don't separate the sexes for arbitrary reasons. Women even highly trained women can not compete physically with men. Seriously Carl what did you think would happen?

I expect a sort of crisis amongst feminists as to whether or not admit that women have physical problems compared to men

 

[Lanmandragon]

I expect a sort of crisis amongst feminists as to whether or not admit that women have physical problems compared to men

Nope they aren't dumb they are aware it's a lie. That's largely what they do now it's getting doubtful that'd change. Hell man it doesn'tecen take science it's readily observable. Throughout basically all of human history anyway men dominate. Women's sports totally destroyed the end.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Nope they aren't dumb they are aware it's a lie. That's largely what they do now it's getting doubtful that'd change. Hell man it doesn'tecen take science it's readily observable. Throughout basically all of human history anyway men dominate. Women's sports totally destroyed the end.

Will they admit the truth or not? Is the "conflict" and what I'd love to see

Will the feminist admit men have better bodies for physical movement or not? Odds are no. But it'll be funny as hell

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

The strongest women in the entire world are not even middling in strength competitions. They aren't even competitive with smaller, lighter men. The idea you could selectively breed the women to not only close, but surpass, that gap, is ludicrous.

Let me make clear that it's highly highly unlikely but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's impossible. We've engineered animals and plants to have traits that would never have happened in the wild, who's to say in theory it couldn't happen with humans as well. I think maybe I need to amend what I said earlier when referring to organic I was referring to an actually acknowledging genes and reacting accordingly, Not just arbitrarily changing the rules of sports to give women an advantage as we are currently seeing. The thing is what I'm discussing is potintally dipping into the pool of transhumanism, which is a subject that I'm pretty sure would result in a glazed eye look by most feminist.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Will they admit the truth or not? Is the "conflict" and what I'd love to see

Will the feminist admit men have better bodies for physical movement or not? Odds are no. But it'll be funny as hell

you really want them to Blue screen of death, tell them that Man and woman are actually a single organism that is essentially split in half. The Male half is what carries all of the defense mechanisms and the fertilizer while the female half was what holds all the replicating parts. You could make a whole troll mythology around it. Not that I'd suggest it. Fighting crazy with crazy just makes more crazy

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Let me make clear that it's highly highly unlikely but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's impossible. We've engineered animals and plants to have traits that would never have happened in the wild, who's to say in theory it couldn't happen with humans as well. I think maybe I need to amend what I said earlier when referring to organic I was referring to an actually acknowledging genes and reacting accordingly, Not just arbitrarily changing the rules of sports to give women an advantage as we are currently seeing. The thing is what I'm discussing is potintally dipping into the pool of transhumanism, which is a subject that I'm pretty sure would result in a glazed eye look by most feminist.

Yes, this just means you know nothing about body mechanics or the diminishing returns of human body scale. Or selective breeding, for that matter. Even the strongest dogs, bred for strength over a hundred generations, are only marginally stronger than the largest natural wolves.

We know how big humans can get, we know how big they can get before hitting diminishing returns.

Take boxing as an example.

a 200lb female would not be able to compete with a 200lb man. A 250lb female would not be competitive with a 200lb man. A 300lb Female would not be competitive with a 200lb man. A 350 pound female would do more damage to her fucking knees than to her enemy.

Bob Sapp (6'5, consistently 320+pounds) was considered a joke compared to heavyweight boxers a hundred pounds lighter than him despite over decade of fighting experience, and his muscles are stronger per pound, reflexes faster, and bones denser, than any woman who ever lived.

To genetically engineer a woman to be competitive with men, she'd need a male body shape, male proportions, male muscles, male bones, male joints. She'd look like a man, she'd produce male levels of testosterone and estrogen. She'd have to go through the male puberty cycle.
Such a thing would not only not be possible through selective breeding, it would not be possible with any technology we know to exist. It's a fairy magic nonsense story you're pretending is grounded in reality.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Yes, this just means you know nothing about body mechanics or the diminishing returns of human body scale. Or selective breeding, for that matter. Even the strongest dogs, bred for strength over a hundred generations, are only marginally stronger than the largest natural wolves.

We know how big humans can get, we know how big they can get before hitting diminishing returns.

Take boxing as an example.

a 200lb female would not be able to compete with a 200lb man. A 250lb female would not be competitive with a 200lb man. A 300lb Female would not be competitive with a 200lb man. A 350 pound female would do more damage to her fucking knees than to her enemy.

Bob Sapp (6'5, consistently 320+pounds) was considered a joke compared to heavyweight boxers a hundred pounds lighter than him despite over decade of fighting experience, and his muscles are stronger per pound, reflexes faster, and bones denser, than any woman who ever lived.

To genetically engineer a woman to be competitive with men, she'd need a male body shape, male proportions, male muscles, male bones, male joints. She'd look like a man, she'd produce male levels of testosterone and estrogen. She'd have to go through the male puberty cycle.
Such a thing would not only not be possible through selective breeding, it would not be possible with any technology we know to exist. It's a fairy magic nonsense story you're pretending is grounded in reality.

ok.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

To genetically engineer a woman to be competitive with men, she'd need a male body shape, male proportions, male muscles, male bones, male joints. She'd look like a man, she'd produce male levels of testosterone and estrogen. She'd have to go through the male puberty cycle.
Such a thing would not only not be possible through selective breeding, it would not be possible with any technology we know to exist. It's a fairy magic nonsense story you're pretending is grounded in reality.

This reminds me of that Female Space Marine thing....yeah they wouldn’t look like women, especially from the neck down till you look at their genitalia

 

[Husky_Khan]

This reminds me of that Female Space Marine thing....yeah they wouldn’t look like women, especially from the neck down till you look at their genitalia

FFS, this is an extremely roundabout way for you to engineer a discussion on how you wanna perv over Space Marines with inverse genatalia isn't it?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

FFS, this is an extremely roundabout way for you to engineer a discussion on how you wanna perv over Space Marines with inverse genatalia isn't it?

Nope, just remembered seeing that somewhere before and honestly the very idea creeps me out, very idea of making a woman look like a man, especially a super roiled up one

 

[robertliguori]

I mean, we have women's leagues for a reason, and that reason does not go away just because men are allowed to enter them. I think that there'd be a (aheh) gentleman's agreement for most honorable male athletes to not enter them, and for it to be assumed that any biological male who did would be doing so because they couldn't hack it competing in the open-to-all-comers league.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

I mean, we have women's leagues for a reason, and that reason does not go away just because men are allowed to enter them. I think that there'd be a (aheh) gentleman's agreement for most honorable male athletes to not enter them, and for it to be assumed that any biological male who did would be doing so because they couldn't hack it competing in the open-to-all-comers league.

The problem is that you'd see bitter men who cant compete with the other men enter the womens leagues and dominate, like we're seeing with trannies.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

The problem is that you'd see bitter men who cant compete with the other men enter the womens leagues and dominate, like we're seeing with trannies.

Which I honestly find kinda funny

Because if they ban em, they show themselves to be a bunch of sole losers who have trouble admitting that men have better bodies