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I figured I'd go ahead and do a wrestling thread because why not, had a love for it since forever.

anyway saw this story on a wrestling Vlog and I thought I'd share.

Women’s Evolution Was Something That Shouldn’t Have Had to Happen

tl;dr WWE wants to basically claim that it was the leader in women's wrestling and it always cared about the women's division and yet it was plagued by bad booking bad matches and an overall just lack of care for their women's divisions. to me this is a good representation of what a lot of Feminism has become. All the talk of inequality and breaking sexism and yet thee is this elephant "Your kind of behind the curve. "

Honestly I just find it funny, WWE is now wanting to do what most small town indie wrestling divisions have been doing since the early 80s especially in your more European influenced countries. heck many of the women in WWE's so called Women's evolution already had careers a half decade before.

Piper Niven: Started in 2009 with the Scottish wrestling alliance As the Viper

Toni Rossall: Started on Impact Pro Wrestling in Australia

I mean heck, in the 80s and 90s you had the likes of Reggie Bennett, klondyke Kate, Emily Dole, Dee Booher, these women were making a name for themselves in the independent circuit a full 20 years before WWE decided to play ball. Not to mention the fact that no amount of virtue signaling is going to cover for bad booking, Asuka looks like she just now maybe receiving any kind of push and the only reason why that's occurring is because Becky Lynch had to relinquish her title due to being pregnant. Sadly, I'm betting she's probably just going to lose to charlatte flair...again. and I've yet to see anyone from NXT get a real push in the mainstream WWE.

Anyway those are my thoughts

 

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So one of the archetypes in wrestling I miss is the Big Guy, guys like Undertaker, Big Show, Yokozuna, people who are larger than life in stature and/or girth and typical level thier opponets in what are typically squash matches. While they are still around, they are rare (Especially among the female variety) and they are often under utilized as big dumb mooks or the butt of jokes.

Surprisingly two of wrestling prominent big Guys Didn't come from America, but rather it's older cousin across the sea.

Giant Haystacks:

ruled the British wrestling world in the 70s and 80s standing at 6ft 11 in tall and weighing anwhere from 400-600 lbs during his career. At his prime the guy was essentially the Undertaker of his time (Albiet the heel version) He actually fought under Loch ness in WCW in the 90s, and he was supposed to have this big rivalry with Hulk Hogan but sadly cancer took him before the story came to fruition

It makes me sad because honestly, I wonder what a match between him and the undertaker would be like.





and on the female end you have the likes of Klondyke kate who was essentially a front runner for women's wrestling in the UK

neithier one of these guys are exacly the world's ideas of models, but man could these guys wrestle.

 

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Granted I'm still a few episodes behind so my thoughts maybe inaccurate. I'm enjoying what I'm seeing granted my expectations are low on account that prior to covid, a lot of the stuff on raw could barely qualify as wrestling. I like Drew as champion, he cuts a decent promo and they are actually trying to give him a decent booking.

Asuka....Man just feels like a waste of potential. She's still one of the best women if not the best women in WWE's roster as far as wrestling goes, but they need to either have her speak english, or give her an inturpreter, or close captioning or somthg. right now it seems like her dialouge consist of belting out Japanese loudly and abnouxously and the commentators sort of smile and nod in a "I don't know what this girl is saying but I don't want to be rude," kind of way, and I know she can speak at least halfway decent English because she does it all the time on her youtube channel granted she has a thick accent but you can at least understand her. From what I've seen so far she just seems to be more comic relief which is a real shame. For anyone who is caught up, is this the case, or am I off the mark?

 

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All the attention that WWE is bringing to Nia Jax honestly is just making her look worse, not from a story sense, but in the meta sense that she's not a good wrestler. nearly every move she does is she massively botches and it seems like every couple of months she injures someone. I know that she's supposed to be the big strong girl of the WWE (Which to me is sad given that she's neither big so much as just fat, nor strong.) but that's no reason for her to be an unsafe worker. Yokozuna was a 600 lbs monstrosity, and Big Show is 7 ft tall and nearly weighs 400 lbs and yet they were/are some of the safest workers in the business. Even Piper Nivan is a safe worker.


I don't want her to be fired, but she desperately needs better training or she needs to be let go. It's not that hard to find or even make Big Girl talent if the company would stop looking to nepotism for their talent. When it comes to finding or making gaints, bulking someone up is the easy part. Put them on carb heavy, lean protien heavy diet and go heavy on the wieghts, and a bit of cardio for good measure. Finding someone with the stature is the hard part.

for anyone who thinks I'm exagerating on Jax being unsafe, the video below just happened last month.



I don't think the reactions are a work. Nia looks like she feels guily because she knows she Kairi got hurt, many of the nxt bystanders are mouthing stuff like "Come on, really?" and Asuka looks legitimately ticked off.

 

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first of all apologizes in advanced as this is feeling more like a blog. but I'm main;y trying to keep threads and updates going. Saw I saw the Women's title match on raw and...from a creative perspective I just don't get it. If WWE wanted Sasha to have a title rein why not have her win money in the bank and make her a dominating heel? Why make Asuka a glorified middleman between Becky and Sasha.

Maybe I'm sour as I very much prefer Asuka's character over Sasha. Sasha banks is one of those people you either worship the ground she walks on, or you can't stand her and think she's one of the most overrated women on the roster, and I clearly fall under the latter catagory. sasha's character just reminds me to much of some of the hair dyed "YAASS QUEEN!" girls I occasionally run into from time to time so anytime I see her character I just role my eyes, and to put icing on the cake bailey is that bratty best friend of the "Yass queen" girl that shames you for having "White privilege.".....relevant I guess?

Maybe I wouldn't be so sour had Asuka's reign as champion not been so crap. Out of six matches she had maybe ONE clean win. The whole thing just felt pointless. Still best luck for Kari Sain maybe we'll see her in new japan or somthing. On a side note, what's with WWE's eye gouging fetish as of late?