Versus Match Lady Dimitrescu (Resident Evil) Vs Frank Horrigan (Fallout 2)

[DarthOne]

Combatant’s Character Summaries:

Frank Horrigan (Fallout 2)
“You've gotten a lot farther than you should have, but then you haven't met Frank Horrigan either. Your ride's over, mutie. Time to die.”
— Frank to the Chosen One

Special Agent Frank Horrigan is a super mutant and a Secret Service Agent of the United States Government known as the Enclave in 2241. He serves as the final boss of Fallout 2.
Horrigan was originally a high-ranking and exceptionally vicious human secret service agent working for the Enclave president Dick Richardson, who became a mutant after coming into contact with the F.E.V. Virus at the Mariposa Military Base.

The Enclave scientists brought him back to their labs to be studied and experimented on and decided to further mutate him into their ultimate killing machine. Frank Horrigan was permanently encased in a special suit of cybernetic power armor designed specifically for him. He was also fitted with several cybernetic enhancements, including arm control mechanisms, leg rotator mechanisms, and a bionic eye.

POWERS / SKILLS

• Power armor
• FEV augmentation
• Superhuman durability
• Superhuman strength
• Cybernetic augmentation
• Superhuman strength
• Towering height
• End Boss plasma cannon
• End Boss knife
• Leadership
• Military training

Alcina Dimitrescu (Resident Evil Village)

"Oh, so gauche. What do you care for bread and circuses? The manthing's suffering is assured, regardless." -Alcina, speaking of Ethan Winters.

Much of Lady Dimitrescu's past remains a mystery, but she is believed to have been born around 1914 as she became a mutant at the age of 44 which is around the late 1950s, and seems to have stopped aging at her mid forties.

She was taken into the cult of the being known as ‘Mother Miranda’ whereupon Alcina survived being infected with the Cadou parasite.

This experiment mutated Alcina's body considerably, granting her regenerative capabilities, retractable claw-like nails, and the ability to transform into a dragon-like monster and back again. Moreover, the parasite halted her aging process, maintaining her appearance perpetually. In spite of these impressive biological changes, the resulting mutation did not nullify her blood disease.

As a result, Dimitrescu needed a ready supply of fresh human blood to maintain her health, which is also responsible for her greater-then-normal-human highly. Because of this, Alcina was therefore judged by Miranda to be a failure for her end goal.

Alcina Dimitrescu rules over a large castle as the Matriarch of the Dimitrescu Family, living with three women whom she considers her daughters, Cassandra, Bela, and Daniela.

POWERS / SKILLS

• Superhuman durability
• Superhuman strength
• Moderate Regenerative abilities
• Biological immortality
• Retractable razor-sharp claws capable of slicing through steel prison bars.

Dragon/Centaur-like Mutated Form:

• Flight
• Sharp teeth
• Insectoid manipulation

Verses ground rules:
Both combatants will adopt whatever strategies they think will best eliminate their foe while still remaining true to their established personalities and intellects.

Scenario 1:
Frank Horrigan has access to his power armor, plasma canon and combat knife.

Scenario 2:
Frank Horigan starts out unarmed with only his power armor and bare hands.

Location:
A small, 2000’s era forest town in late fall.

 

[Agent23]

I think Horrigan wins easily in scenario 1 and less decisively in scenario 2.

He is a highly skilled, power armor equipped supermutant with access to a ranged weapon that can literally turn targets into ash.

I doubt that some rando Romanian giantess vapmire larper full of parasites can take him out.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Combatant’s Character Summaries:

Frank Horrigan (Fallout 2)
“You've gotten a lot farther than you should have, but then you haven't met Frank Horrigan either. Your ride's over, mutie. Time to die.”
— Frank to the Chosen One

Special Agent Frank Horrigan is a super mutant and a Secret Service Agent of the United States Government known as the Enclave in 2241. He serves as the final boss of Fallout 2.
Horrigan was originally a high-ranking and exceptionally vicious human secret service agent working for the Enclave president Dick Richardson, who became a mutant after coming into contact with the F.E.V. Virus at the Mariposa Military Base.

The Enclave scientists brought him back to their labs to be studied and experimented on and decided to further mutate him into their ultimate killing machine. Frank Horrigan was permanently encased in a special suit of cybernetic power armor designed specifically for him. He was also fitted with several cybernetic enhancements, including arm control mechanisms, leg rotator mechanisms, and a bionic eye.

POWERS / SKILLS

• Power armor
• FEV augmentation
• Superhuman durability
• Superhuman strength
• Cybernetic augmentation
• Superhuman strength
• Towering height
• End Boss plasma cannon
• End Boss knife
• Leadership
• Military training

Alcina Dimitrescu (Resident Evil Village)

"Oh, so gauche. What do you care for bread and circuses? The manthing's suffering is assured, regardless." -Alcina, speaking of Ethan Winters.

Much of Lady Dimitrescu's past remains a mystery, but she is believed to have been born around 1914 as she became a mutant at the age of 44 which is around the late 1950s, and seems to have stopped aging at her mid forties.

She was taken into the cult of the being known as ‘Mother Miranda’ whereupon Alcina survived being infected with the Cadou parasite.

This experiment mutated Alcina's body considerably, granting her regenerative capabilities, retractable claw-like nails, and the ability to transform into a dragon-like monster and back again. Moreover, the parasite halted her aging process, maintaining her appearance perpetually. In spite of these impressive biological changes, the resulting mutation did not nullify her blood disease.

As a result, Dimitrescu needed a ready supply of fresh human blood to maintain her health, which is also responsible for her greater-then-normal-human highly. Because of this, Alcina was therefore judged by Miranda to be a failure for her end goal.

Alcina Dimitrescu rules over a large castle as the Matriarch of the Dimitrescu Family, living with three women whom she considers her daughters, Cassandra, Bela, and Daniela.

POWERS / SKILLS

• Superhuman durability
• Superhuman strength
• Moderate Regenerative abilities
• Biological immortality
• Retractable razor-sharp claws capable of slicing through steel prison bars.

Dragon/Centaur-like Mutated Form:

• Flight
• Sharp teeth
• Insectoid manipulation

Verses ground rules:
Both combatants will adopt whatever strategies they think will best eliminate their foe while still remaining true to their established personalities and intellects.

Scenario 1:
Frank Horrigan has access to his power armor, plasma canon and combat knife.

Scenario 2:
Frank Horigan starts out unarmed with only his power armor and bare hands.

Location:
A small, 2000’s era forest town in late fall.

Been pondering this... initially I thought Lady D would take both scenarios decisively if not easily, but now I am less certain. Frank Horrigan has 999 hit points in Fallout 2 and a lot of AP points so he can attack multiple times. The main thing I'm pondering is just how durable Lady D is.

In Resident Evil: Village the only reason she's weakened is because she is stabbed with a cursed blade that is apparently imbued with lots of super toxins... but that doesn't kill her... it just forces her transformation into the dragon creature. Otherwise, in game anyways, she is nigh immune to conventional weapons and attacks. I would argue she's even more resilient then say Tyrant, Mr. X or Nemesis from the first three Resident Evil games, at least in the Humanoid form.

So this is the pickle. Tyrant was killed by a Rocket Launcher to the face. Mr. X was killed by BOW-Birkin slicing his giant claws through him thus killing him OR liberal use of a rocket launcher by Leon S. Kennedy. They have upper limits. Nemesis meanwhile withstood everything and kept evolving to ridiculous levels until Jill Valentine unleashed the room sized Railgun on him and slayed him.

If Lady D's endurance is similar to the first two, I think Frank Horrigan's Plasma Rifle is at least in the ballpark of as deadly as a rocket to the face. Maybe what... four or five shots to equal it maybe? Regardless with Horrigan's speed, he should be able to get shots off on the Humanoid level Lady D. And if Lady D is vulnerable though, this won't kill her... but this might trigger her transformation into a Dragon creature which in turn means her only truly vulnerable spot is the humanoid form that she takes on the backside of said dragon creature.

Everything else of her form is nigh impervious to conventional weapons. Furthermore she's super strong. She crash or swipe her claws or maw through stonework of the castle with almost near impunity, plus she has flight... and can unleash bloatflies to annoy and distract Frank Horrigan. Even with his speed and Plasma Rifle, I don't think Frank Horrigan can take on Lady D in her Dragon form or at least not be able to hit the vulnerable spot of her before getting tackled and NOMMED on. Gameplay is what allowed Ethan to survive that battle. The mechanics and abilities Lady D has are too much for Horrigan to handle IMHO.

BUT if her Dragon form is in the same ballpark as the earlier Tyrants... maybe he can shoot her down and do enough damage to her without having to target her former form as a weak spot. But I doubt it. Even if her body was vulnerable to conventional attacks in dragon form, I don't even think Frank Horrigans cool plasma rifle could put enough damage downrange before she pounces and noms him. Especially in a forested and village setting where the fields of fire would at least be somewhat impaired.

In the hand to hand combat scenario I still think Lady D would win, either in her regular form and especially in the Dragon form.

 

[DarthOne]

@Husky_Khan

See I’m no so sure. A lot depends on exactly what the dagger did to her. From my understanding, the dagger was covered with a bunch of poisons, which either caused Lady D to transform into her Dragon form in response to the damaged inflicted on her, or she just got pissed off enough at Ethan to stop messing around.

As for the amount of damage it took to take her down, I’d like to re-examine the fight with my own eyes before making a call.

That said, I do think your underestimating the amount of damage Frank can take thanks to being a supermutant…mutant and how tough his armor would be. Also just how nasty Fallout plasma (and laser) weapons are, as they are what the supermutants and power armor was designed to counter against.

By the way, in regards to the original Resident Evil games vs the remakes, has there been any information about which ones we’re supposed to see as ‘canon’?

 

[Husky_Khan]

@Husky_Khan

See I’m no so sure. A lot depends on exactly what the dagger did to her. From my understanding, the dagger was covered with a bunch of poisons, which either caused Lady D to transform into her Dragon form in response to the damaged inflicted on her, or she just got pissed off enough at Ethan to stop messing around.

As for the amount of damage it took to take her down, I’d like to re-examine the fight with my own eyes before making a call.

That said, I do think your underestimating the amount of damage Frank can take thanks to being a supermutant…mutant and how tough his armor would be. Also just how nasty Fallout plasma (and laser) weapons are, as they are what the supermutants and power armor was designed to counter against.

For the Boss Battle itself, you shoot her once with the sniper rifle and she lands, then you hit her twice and she lands... then three times and she lands once again. Then you have to plug away at her humanoid bit on the top of said dragon form. You can do it with pistol fire... like about sixty rounds or something probably combined. Less so with the shotgun I would imagine.

Which is why I think Horrigan could win, but a lot of that would require Lady D taking an 'L' in the Brains category and fighting like she is in a scripted Boss Battle again.

If Alina is smart, she can protect the Humanoid bit of her body with her massive dragon form, wings included and those are 'nigh impervious' to weapons damage in game as opposed to how she fought in the scripted Boss Battle. Her Dragon bodies unknown durability is why I compare her to other BOW's from the earlier remakes. Some of them are nigh impervious to weapons damage (though notably none as impervious as Alcina IIRC) in their Humanoid forms, but Tyrant and Mr. X still get killed by an RPG/Rocket Launcher which means a Plasma Rifle could take them down I would imagine since it's in the same ballpark. But if her Dragon body is impervious on the scale of a Birkin or Nemesis... that would require a lot of Plasma.. and Lady D politely not moving too fast.

By the way, in regards to the original Resident Evil games vs the remakes, has there been any information about which ones we’re supposed to see as ‘canon’?

I use the remakes because it's a similar engine as to the Resident Evil: Village game. But ultimately, IIRC, they all die in pretty much the same way. The first two Tyrant variants are killed by Rocket Launchers while being impervious more or less to other weapons, while Nemesis goes crazy with the durability feats until the massive room sized Railgun is used on his giant blob kaiju form.

EDIT:

I'd have to doublecheck but I think Lady Dmitrescu's claws are like super sharp as well in her Humanoid form. Like shearing through stonework and iron bars like a razor, or rather effortlessly. Which is why I don't put too much into Horrigan's body armor, even though its easily comparable to power armor, except apparently grafted onto him directly. I think Lady D's claw hands kinda put a Deathclaws to shame... and I tend to think a Deathclaw could rip and tear a Power Armored soldier very reliably. Granted Deathclaws are assumedly faster... but Lady D can regenerate/is more resilient.

 

[Sailor.X]

I don't know if he can win. But he will Motor Boat her in at Scenario 1 and 2.

 

[S'task]

If Lady D's endurance is similar to the first two, I think Frank Horrigan's Plasma Rifle is at least in the ballpark of as deadly as a rocket to the face.

We can actually glean some stats for weapon damage comparisons by looking at Fallout 2 weapons.

In Fallout 2 a Rocket Launcher deals 35-100 damage (Average 67.5), while the End Boss Plasma Rifle deals 30-70 damage (Average 50). So the plasma rifle is actually just under being a 1 to 1 for damage on a per shot basis. However, for the same number of action points his plasma rifle pulls ahead, as it has a three round burst mode that takes 6 AP to use (whereas the Rocket Launcher takes 6 AP to use base). This means that a three round burst from his plasma rifle is about twice as powerful as the hit from a rocket launcher.

In other words, if she only has durability equivalent to the others, she's probably screwed simply due to how much firepower he's packing.

Unarmed she takes him though.

 

[Agent23]

I don't know if he can win. But he will Motor Boat her in at Scenario 1 and 2.

But she is too heavy to join the two top professions for females in Romania. 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
No, actually she can still join the top one, since there are probably enough simps online.

EDIT: I can't post the details here, so you will have to follow the link to the offensive memes thread.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I ship this pair, Their children will conquer the earth.

 

[Agent23]

I ship this pair, Their children will conquer the earth.

With their mouth-tentacles...

 

[Scooby Doo]

Dimetrescu chair throw solo's look at those damage numbers, it's higher than anything in FO2.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Frank Horrigan is basically an abnormally large super mutant in power armor

 

[Free-Stater 101]

Frank Horrigan literally laughs off direct plasma fire and has literally killed a fully grown sentient Deathclaw via a single blow to the head, the fact that the chosen one was even able to beat him at all is a testament to their resourcefulness and luck over anything else.

...No seriously Horrigan wins this, he is that much of a monster and is extremely well trained besides.

 

[Agent23]

Frank Horrigan literally laughs off direct plasma fire and has literally killed a fully grown sentient Deathclaw via a single blow to the head, the fact that the chosen one was even able to beat him at all is a testament to their resourcefulness and luck over anything else.

...No seriously Horrigan wins this, he is that much of a monster and is extremely well trained besides.

Yup.
And don't forget the turned into glowy pile of ash energy weapons.

Although the option of them fucking and tying the knot sounds a lot more entertaining.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Yup.
And don't forget the turned into glowy pile of ash energy weapons.

Although the option of them fucking and tying the knot sounds a lot more entertaining.

It would be tying the knot first before any fucking she is a lady after all and Frank Horrigan is a gentleman. 😉


EDIT: I always forget but Frank is also a Cyborg on top of being a super mutant in power armor

 

[Free-Stater 101]

Although the option of them fucking and tying the knot sounds a lot more entertaining.

In the words of Olenna Tyrell.

"I rather think it's all for naught. What happens when the non-existent bumbs against the decrepit?"

In all seriousness though let's go into detail on this match up.

Physically I don't think it's a contest Lady D is pretty superhumanly strong and able to throw a man through a brick floor in her base form as well as through some pretty heavy objects but that's where her purely physical strength feats in her base form ends.

Frank Horrigan is just so much stronger however he already possesses a Super Mutant's strength, but he also is in power amour with a vast array of cybernetic enhancements to enhance these abilities

Lady D doesn't have any abilities that I think can hurt Horrigan or combat experience to face someone of his caliper as she is used to just using her size to overwhelm base human opponents a fact which shows when Ethan Winters whose abilities are only basic regeneration and superhuman durability, while Horrigan has that and power armor and the ability to overpower her physically in combat.

The only saving grace Lady D has here is her endurance and ludicrous regen speed she has with it, but the problem there is that we don't know it's limits and really all forms of regeneration have their limit to how much damage they can heal, what type of damage they can heal and how long they last before wearing out, Frank has a plasma gun and who knows what else on him and cauterized wounds don't heal well.

 

[Agent23]

In the words of Olenna Tyrell.

"I rather think it's all for naught. What happens when the non-existent bumbs against the decrepit?"

In all seriousness though let's go into detail on this match up.

Physically I don't think it's a contest Lady D is pretty superhumanly strong and able to throw a man through a brick floor in her base form as well as through some pretty heavy objects but that's where her purely physical strength feats in her base form ends.

Frank Horrigan is just so much stronger however he already possesses a Super Mutant's strength, but he also is in power amour with a vast array of cybernetic enhancements to enhance these abilities

Lady D doesn't have any abilities that I think can hurt Horrigan or combat experience to face someone of his caliper as she is used to just using her size to overwhelm base human opponents a fact which shows when Ethan Winters whose abilities are only basic regeneration and superhuman durability, while Horrigan has that and power armor and the ability to overpower her physically in combat.

The only saving grace Lady D has here is her endurance and ludicrous regen speed she has with it, but the problem there is that we don't know it's limits and really all forms of regeneration have their limit to how much damage they can heal, what type of damage they can heal and how long they last before wearing out, Frank has a plasma gun and who knows what else on him and cauterized wounds don't heal well.

Yeah, Horrigan apparently managed to oneshot a Deathclaw in single combat, hand to hand.Started playing Fallout around 3.

Deathclaws are frigging hard to kill and very durable.

Also, once again, plasma weapon make huge enemy turn into small, glowy pile of ash.

I think Horrigan will be the winner as well.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Yeah, Horrigan apparently managed to oneshot a Deathclaw in single combat, hand to hand.Started playing Fallout around 3.

Deathclaws are frigging hard to kill and very durable.

Also, once again, plasma weapon make huge enemy turn into small, glowy pile of ash.

I think Horrigan will be the winner as well.

Death Claws also have a scripted animation to melee or actually throw cars (In this video you can see the throw animation) so they are launched at you.


They basically have the muscle density/resilience to perform this feat without physical harm to themselves, Horrigan scales above this in strength and durability.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

A dude armed with semi-modern small-arms managed to take down lady D.

I'm VERY certain a 12 foot tall power-armored supermutant strong enough to manhandle deathclaws and shrug off industrial plasma-caster hits, can handle this. Dude has a damned plasma minigun thing.

 

[Husky_Khan]

A dude armed with semi-modern small-arms managed to take down lady D.

I'm VERY certain a 12 foot tall power-armored supermutant strong enough to manhandle deathclaws and shrug off industrial plasma-caster hits, can handle this. Dude has a damned plasma minigun thing.

As stated before, the "dude" armed with semi-modern small arms managed to take down Lady D in a mutated form that was only triggered when she was stabbed with some super special dagger that was apparently laden with toxins or whatever. And even then, the "dude" had to shoot at Lady D in the humanoid form that was on the back of her monstrous form because the rest of her body was nigh immune to damage, like she is nigh immune to damage in her basic Humanoid form. If this scenario was a scripted boss battle, then surely Horrigan could pull off a similar feat, but this Versus isn't a scripted Boss Battle. She doesn't need to oblige.



If we're talking about shrugging off, Frank Horrigan is actually harmed by whatever an "industrial plasma caster" is as in he incurs hit point damage. Meanwhile Lady D can literally shrug off all manners of weaponry. This could be argued as due to gameplay mechanics as she's shrugging off M79 Grenades to the face and walking over anti-tank mines with nary a concern in the world. It is notable to state that her staggers tend to consist of her brushing off her dress or straightening her big hat. Compare this to say, Nemesis or Mr. X from the earlier Resident Evil remakes who actually visibly stagger when struck by things like overwhelming amounts of gunfire or explosives which would seem to imply Lady D is more resilient then those Tyrants would be, gameplay mechanics aside.