Movies Jurassic World Dominion: End of the Trilogy

[Bear Ribs]

are you sure they weren't loaded with buckshot?

I guess that's theoretically possible, though that would be a bizarre choice. for Muldoon to decide buckshot was sufficient to take down dinosaurs, especially given the strong respect he showed for
Raptors.

However you can pretty clearly hear exactly four shots and there're three holes in the glass, at a range of perhaps three yards. Given what a buckshot pattern looks like at that ranges, there's no reasonable way even a single hit would leave those few tiny holes spread so far apart in the glass, the shot should be almost like a solid fist at that range. So we still come back to my original, admittedly pure crack, point: Guns in JP are significantly weaker than in RL. If those were slug rounds, for some reason they do slingshot level damage to glass. If those were buckshot rounds, 12 gauge shells only have one pellet apiece.

The only other possibility is that this was super-hardened glass that was highly resistant to bullets, in which case Raptors, who ripped right through it, have claws significantly more damaging that 12-gauge shotguns.

 

[Sailor.X]

Do you see a single word about missing in the quote you made? We get enough completely-irrelevant-to-the-discussion-anecdotes from Bintinath. Nobody said anything about Grant missing, the problem is that Grant hit, and the slugs only did this:

We didn't see him hit any of the Raptors in Jurassic Park. The scene cut away and all we heard was gun shots.

 

[Bear Ribs]

We didn't see him hit any of the Raptors in Jurassic Park. The scene cut away and all we heard was gun shots.

What's that have to do with anything?

Anyway, we know for an absolute certainty he didn't hit any of the raptors. There were three raptors per Muldoon earlier. One was locked in the freezer and two were killed by Rexxy, all are accounted for and none had gunshot wounds.

 

[Sailor.X]

What's that have to do with anything?

Anyway, we know for an absolute certainty he didn't hit any of the raptors. There were three raptors per Muldoon earlier. One was locked in the freezer and two were killed by Rexxy, all are accounted for and none had gunshot wounds.

Ahem

Do you see a single word about missing in the quote you made? We get enough completely-irrelevant-to-the-discussion-anecdotes from Bintinath. Nobody said anything about Grant missing, the problem is that Grant hit, and the slugs only did this:

I was responding to what you literally posted.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Ahem


I was responding to what you literally posted.

No, you're responding to something entirely in your head. Nothing I discussed involved guns hitting raptors, I was pointing out what the shotgun slugs did to glass. Everything you've posted has been in response to things I didn't say outside of your imagination.

 

[Sailor.X]

No, you're responding to something entirely in your head. Nothing I discussed involved guns hitting raptors, I was pointing out what the shotgun slugs did to glass. Everything you've posted has been in response to things I didn't say outside of your imagination.

They more than likely used Bird Shot instead of Buckshot and Slugs in the movie. At close range the shots would not spread all that much.

If I mistake your original post I appologize.

 

[Bear Ribs]

They more than likely used Bird Shot instead of Buckshot and Slugs in the movie. At close range the shots would not spread all that much.

If I mistake your original post I appologize.

Actually, I'd lay long odds they didn't use any shot at all. All the gunshots were purely sound effects from rounds fired offscreen, normally a director will simply not have any live rounds on the set at all in that situation to avoid the possibility of Baldwin'ing someone. There's simply no reason to go to the risk of live rounds if you can use blanks, or to use blanks if you can use sound effects alone.

The holes in the glass were more likely artfully chipped in by a special effects artist rather than them actually shooting anything. There's also a fair chance the glass itself wasn't real glass but something else. Most of the "glass" you see in movies was once made from sugar, and today is made from a plastic compound that breaks readily but is still soft enough it can't cut a person for the same reason they won't use live bullets if there's any way around it.

Movie magic is a pretty fascinating field in how they fake just about everything.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Having checked my digital copy of Jurassic Park just a few seconds ago, a detail worth pointing out is that Grant is rapid-firing four or five times (it's difficult to hear if there's a fifth shot over Hammond yelling in panic, but there are four distinct reports before that) with the SPAS-12's stock folded up. Even at close range, it's completely realistic that he missed.

Also, we don't actually know that there's only three bullet holes in the glass. There's three holes seen in an instant close-up shot that doesn't show the rest of the glass panel, and at minimum you literally hear the raptor breaking glass before Grant fires any shots at all.