A person can get a Classical Education by watching a some retried College Professors who teach those subjects on Youtube.
It's okay to be white
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Erwin_Pommel
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You mean to tell me that those paper-thin goblins fell for it again? Wow, talk about being a shitty car run by an even shittier maintenance guy who didn't even bother to patch up the broken axel before sending out.
Edgeplay_cgo
Well-known member
Not a damn thing. With this continual hate mongering, they are trying to divide the American People, and Balkanize us. They are creating White Supremacists. If you call someone racist enough, they will become racist, just to survive. They may get their race war.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Is there an ethnic slur for white people?
This fascination for white people being called Nazis, white supremacists or incels could lead to a generalised term.
Edgeplay_cgo
Well-known member
I would make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy, but any credentials or licenses earned with that education would be voided. In addition, the educational institution would be made responsible for a portion of the loss. This would make college harder to get into, and would limit the number of "Fries with that" degrees.
Edgeplay_cgo
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I use the term Honkies for us, although I'm a Polack, myself. Whitey is also a common one.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Whitey oh. The mighty whitey.
Polack is a Polish slur. Where does honky come from?
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Technical education is still largely un-impacted. During some continuing education training at the University of Wisconsin a few months ago for practicing engineering professionals, the professor was still cracking derisive jokes about trigger warnings. The problem is exactly what Alathon notes, a full engineering or scientific bachelor's education could be had in three years (as it is at a European Polytechnic) without the mandatory indoctrination classes.
My recommendation is to go to community college and then transfer in to a state ag college in a rural area, studying sciences the whole way, and using the flexibility at the community college to avoid the worst of the liberal arts courses. Normally once the community college Associates is completed, then you can skip the supporting courses in a 4-year school and go into the advanced level scientific courses directly.
That will, of course, still expose children to the ideologically cult of the modern age, but if they have been educated with the Great Books then they should be reasonably immune to it. My father bought me a copy of Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire to read at Age 10 -- And Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, Herodotus, Thucydides, Polybius, and many others; ultimately by the time I was a teenager I was reading The Romance of the Three Kingdoms and The Mahabhrata in translation. I had the Quran before I went to college, even; thus, my opinions were fixed by these books, and no leftist professors really substantially altered them since.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
@Captain-General
Kinda weird, but I don’t have the know-how to make a joke regarding how most kids only ever read Harry Potter as a kid
And how there are journalists and SJWs talking about how it teached and impacted them so much. Or something
Kinda weird, but I don’t have the know-how to make a joke regarding how most kids only ever read Harry Potter as a kid
And how there are journalists and SJWs talking about how it teached and impacted them so much. Or something
LifeisTiresome
Well-known member
A Mary Sue writer apparently never watched the first Alien movie until now. Explains why they seem to think strong female characters never existed until now.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
That's pretty disturbing. The themes of Harry Potter as a young adult series are by and large pretty distorted and destructive. It doesn't get much past 'fight against evil' right.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
I presume they are very selectively oblivious, like that Mockingbird writer who asked where all the female superheroes were
I thought the main theme was about fighting Evil Wizard Nazi’s and Bigotry which are inherent in wizard society and possibly to be paranoid of them as they definitely exist an entire Wizarding Hogwarts House was made of evil nazi kids
And TBF inbreeding is a bad idea.....I bet those Purebloods have all at least one or two muggles or muggleborn ancestors in their family lines, some more recent than others
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Harry Potter? You can say there's now lots of Umbridges.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Harry Potter gets basic good vs evil right, but that's about it.
Harry's only notable abilities come from talent, not from dedicated hard work and effort. Only in book 4 is he shown to engage in any exceptional level of effort to prepare himself for a challenge at all.
The general tone of the story reinforces a mediocre work-ethic. Hermione is the only hard-working character, and she's generally portrayed as excessively so, and that Harry and/or Ron are more 'normal' or 'healthy' with their usually-slacking efforts.
The characters are static. There's no significant maturation displayed past the first half or so of book 1. The struggles they have in every single book thereafter, are the exact same characters. They are eternal children/adolescents.
The entire setting lore and mechanics are utterly incoherent. A marginally-competent graduate of the 'everyone attends' school (Hogwarts) can magic up shelter, temperature regulation, bedding, protection, offense, literally everything but food. And even food can be extremely easily procured indirectly. Yet this has no discernible effect whatsoever on the economy.
Authority figures are simultaneous helpless and/or incompetent, and to be followed with cult-like trust. This is very complicated, but note that the endgame of the entire series is built out of Harry following through on Dumbledore's byzantine plot that depends on secret magic, when not only did the protagonist not even know about the plot, Dumbledore actively did not tell them.
Victory is not earned, it is given, simply for 'doing the right thing.' Again, the only time that the protagonist does anything to earn victory, is in book 4, and even then, it's still only given to him because of adult figures interfering to hand it to him on a silver platter.
Good People Don't Ever Kill People. This is taken to an absolutely absurd level, not until the final battle at the end of the series, do we ever hear of any villain character being killed by a 'good guy' (with possible/partial exception of Quirrel), but we don't hear about them dying at all. Yet, the villains are full-up conducting a war against the heroes, casually tossing around lethal attacks. In spite of all this, Harry and co repeatedly not just use non-lethal measures, but consciously choose to release alive people who have just tried to kill them when they've been defeated. One particular Death Eater, they catch and release three times over.
Related to the above, some characters who are blatantly villains, and conspired to murder and similar, are allowed to get off scot-free, because... no really discernible reason, honestly. Snape (killed by Voldemort yes, but not jailed or executed by a court of law as he should have been) and the Malfoys being the most salient examples. The huge numbers of Death Eaters who were let go after the first war against Voldemort, in spite of the setting have multiple mechanics that functionally compel truth-telling just make this even worse.
On the whole, the story of Harry Potter overwhelmingly communicates a message that Logic Doesn't Matter, and victory or defeat comes entirely as a product of plot fiat.
I say all of this as someone who very much enjoyed the series when I was a child. I had to be into my 20's before I started realizing how disturbing and false some of the themes and communicated messages of the series are.
When you consider all the above, it makes quite a bit of sense for a generation raised on it to produce an entire social class of activist people who idolize it, and refuse to engage in more profound thought to understand the world around them, instead insisting that villains must be simplistic caricatures, and that simply by standing up and speaking, they'll somehow win.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
You know, aside from Voldemort, I somehow can’t think any of the Death Eaters have much reason to obsess over being superior to “Muggles”
Given that they barely interact with Muggles to begin with due to living in very closed off societies wherein they don’t know or see much of Muggle society to begin with
Even Anti-Mutant Terrorists in Marvel Comics have more reason or have had past experiences with mutants that colored their viewpoints
They just look to be those bad guys who devote themselves to a cause, only because they’re evil douchebags
Given that they barely interact with Muggles to begin with due to living in very closed off societies wherein they don’t know or see much of Muggle society to begin with
Even Anti-Mutant Terrorists in Marvel Comics have more reason or have had past experiences with mutants that colored their viewpoints
They just look to be those bad guys who devote themselves to a cause, only because they’re evil douchebags
ShieldWife
Marchioness
I agree. Just about anybody who is considering college at all should go to community college for the first two years. It saves a lot of money, avoids the terrible culture of universities, and gives people a chance to decide on whether or not college is right for them. My husband agrees with this and he’s taught at both university and community college.
Though for my daughters, I am encouraging them to get their MRS rather than pursue a career or higher education.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Guys, I think you’re forgetting the problem of how coming from certain colleges, especially the expensive elite ones
Increases “prestige” or supposedly increases chances of getting a job
Plenty of schools and colleges teach the same subject matter and education, there maybe differences in facilities, but they are still sorta functionally teaching the same stuff
Who would you take more seriously as likely to have the skills for finance, someone who read lots of For Dummies books and watched How To Vids on youtube?
Or guys who spent years in the most prestigious private schools and colleges and may have gotten A’s and awards
Schools and Colleges are places where one’s level of knowledge or skill are sorta recorded with proof
Though losses or failure there is sorta permanent, compared to testing oneself repeatedly at home with the expectation you can get a high score and its not the end of the world and you won’t have to repeat an entire year
Increases “prestige” or supposedly increases chances of getting a job
Plenty of schools and colleges teach the same subject matter and education, there maybe differences in facilities, but they are still sorta functionally teaching the same stuff
Who would you take more seriously as likely to have the skills for finance, someone who read lots of For Dummies books and watched How To Vids on youtube?
Or guys who spent years in the most prestigious private schools and colleges and may have gotten A’s and awards
Schools and Colleges are places where one’s level of knowledge or skill are sorta recorded with proof
Though losses or failure there is sorta permanent, compared to testing oneself repeatedly at home with the expectation you can get a high score and its not the end of the world and you won’t have to repeat an entire year
That kind of depends on if the credits will transfer or not. In my state, credits only for sure transfer between the state institutions.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Part of the problem there, is that increasingly, having a degree doesn't mean someone actually knows how to do something. This is certainly not necessarily even a slim majority true yet, but it's becoming true more and more often.
Particularly from anything non-STEM in ivy-league schools. As Thomas Sowell put it (quoting someone else I think), 'There hasn't been a big business that's gone under in the last twenty years that didn't have a Harvard man at the helm.'
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I don’t doubt that you’re personally capable enough to, with your husband, provide the necessary education; you are a very wise woman whose opinions I dearly respect after a short time of conversing, and I expect any daughter you raise could walk into a high class restaurant in the prime of life on her husband’s arm with the poise and confidence to put the “dinner casual” crowd infesting the places these days to shame, and keep up her conversation at table among polite company.
However, the problem is that college is really the last social environment we have left so most of the connections which lead to marriage still happen there even in the respectable class of people. Outside of primarily religious and rather cloistered communities, an MRS from a lineage they deserve is going to be an enormous challenge to arrange in the modern world.