raharris1973
Well-known member
What if Australia and New Zealand and the British controlled Cape Colony of the year 1820 are all ISOT back to the year 1620?
This back timing places these small settlement two hundred years prior, severing from their regular external trade connections. In fact, New Zealand lacks for European settlements, it is divided among Maori chiefdoms, and probably intermittently just has a population or 100 or 200 Europeans or Americans, whalers, fishermen, merchants, missionaries, at any given time.
The Cape Colony have a Cape Boer population in Capetown, a British garrison, some British administrators and merchants, Coloreds, Cape Malays, rural Boer farmers and pastoralists, and Hottentot and Bantu groups.
The Australian continent has a population of at least a quarter million to a million aborigines, and 20 to 30 thousand Europeans.
All have local agriculture and game and literate administrators and workshops, but none are developed with very large scale factories or mines. They exploit local natural resources, but import non-craft manufactured goods, and have not seen a steamship nor a railroad. Some of the ships in port, and cannon and small arms in possession of the local garrisons at the Cape and in Australia, are naturally state of the art tech by 1620s standards, but they lack local mass production capabilities.
These areas now find themselves in the world of the 1620s, the Indian and southern oceans at this time are much more frequently travelled by the Portuguese subjects of the Spanish crown - At this time Philip III, for 1 more year, before Philip IV takes over, and merchants of the rebellious Dutch United Provinces, led by Maurice of Orange, than by Englishmen, but some of the latter do come around, along with some Frenchmen.
King James I of England & Scotland rules England, Scotland, and Ireland and will continue to do so until his death in 1625. Under him, England has finally had success in colonial endeavors on the North American coast and the Caribbean, notably at Virginia, Bermuda, and Plymouth.
When will these uptime antipodal lands make contact with uptime people, particularly Europeans and Englishmen? How will they interact? Will Australia and the Cape Colony reaffiliate with the downtime Stuart England of James I and Charles I, because of their small size and vulnerability? Or evolve independently, because of cultural and political differences from being from a different time of origin? What 'news from the future' will uptimer antipodeans share, and what technical knowledge will these relatively backward, but certainly not ignorant, communities, impart to the downtime world of the 1620s?
Where do you see things headed over the next 100 years with this point of departure?
This back timing places these small settlement two hundred years prior, severing from their regular external trade connections. In fact, New Zealand lacks for European settlements, it is divided among Maori chiefdoms, and probably intermittently just has a population or 100 or 200 Europeans or Americans, whalers, fishermen, merchants, missionaries, at any given time.
The Cape Colony have a Cape Boer population in Capetown, a British garrison, some British administrators and merchants, Coloreds, Cape Malays, rural Boer farmers and pastoralists, and Hottentot and Bantu groups.
The Australian continent has a population of at least a quarter million to a million aborigines, and 20 to 30 thousand Europeans.
All have local agriculture and game and literate administrators and workshops, but none are developed with very large scale factories or mines. They exploit local natural resources, but import non-craft manufactured goods, and have not seen a steamship nor a railroad. Some of the ships in port, and cannon and small arms in possession of the local garrisons at the Cape and in Australia, are naturally state of the art tech by 1620s standards, but they lack local mass production capabilities.
These areas now find themselves in the world of the 1620s, the Indian and southern oceans at this time are much more frequently travelled by the Portuguese subjects of the Spanish crown - At this time Philip III, for 1 more year, before Philip IV takes over, and merchants of the rebellious Dutch United Provinces, led by Maurice of Orange, than by Englishmen, but some of the latter do come around, along with some Frenchmen.
King James I of England & Scotland rules England, Scotland, and Ireland and will continue to do so until his death in 1625. Under him, England has finally had success in colonial endeavors on the North American coast and the Caribbean, notably at Virginia, Bermuda, and Plymouth.
When will these uptime antipodal lands make contact with uptime people, particularly Europeans and Englishmen? How will they interact? Will Australia and the Cape Colony reaffiliate with the downtime Stuart England of James I and Charles I, because of their small size and vulnerability? Or evolve independently, because of cultural and political differences from being from a different time of origin? What 'news from the future' will uptimer antipodeans share, and what technical knowledge will these relatively backward, but certainly not ignorant, communities, impart to the downtime world of the 1620s?
Where do you see things headed over the next 100 years with this point of departure?
