What If? How much are you willing to give up for power?

King Arts

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So just to head off any shady arguments no this is not a deal from the devil, and you are not selling your soul for power.

If starting tomorrow angels came down to earth and offered to bless any human who is willing to take certain vows in exchange for the power to perform miracles of healing people, and enhanced strength and speed. Basically think super strong paladins.
The vows could be things like being forbidden from ever saying any word that is not true, or being forced to follow a chivalric code something like never backing down from a challenge to a duel, or a vow of eternal virginity?

What sorts of requirements would be too much for you to decide to not go for it?

Also how would the world react to angels handing out powers to a new class of warrior monks?
 

The Whispering Monk

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Osaul
I'd volunteer!
My wife wouldn't be keen on the vow of abstinence.
Come to think of it...I'm not sure she'd be real keen on me becoming a Warrior and haring off to fight evulz.
Some form of code of conduct would surely be in the offing.
-always willing to defend others
-mercy to those that have been defeated
-be not the first to seek violence
-can't lie
**I'd look for inspiration of conduct from the Knights of the Cross from the Dresden novels if I were you. Seemed to me to be a good take on what kind of restrictions would occur as well as the kind of power they might wield. Here are the 3 Knights when they are first introduced:

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bintananth

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forbidden from ever saying any word that is not true

If that includes written and signed speech that'd be a dealbreaker for most people, especially if restricted to the word "true" and nothing else.

Most people don't know something like morse code. 😂
 

King Arts

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If that includes written and signed speech that'd be a dealbreaker for most people, especially if restricted to the word "true" and nothing else.

Most people don't know something like morse code. 😂
Why would it be a deal breaker? And by true I mean same rules Aes Sedai have in wheel of time. You can’t say something you know or really think is false with the intent to deceive.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
Why would it be a deal breaker? And by true I mean same rules Aes Sedai have in wheel of time. You can’t say something you know or really think is false with the intent to deceive.
It looks like the joke fell flat on its face. Oh well. 🤷‍♀️
 

Bassoe

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Why do I need superpowers? Being able to fly around in spandex and throw cars would be fun yes, but of minimal use in my current lifestyle. Of course, a world infested with hordes of crazed ideologues willing to make great sacrifices for equally great powers fighting each other might swiftly turn into the sort of hell where I'd need to reconsider said value judgement.
 

King Arts

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Why do I need superpowers? Being able to fly around in spandex and throw cars would be fun yes, but of minimal use in my current lifestyle. Of course, a world infested with hordes of crazed ideologues willing to make great sacrifices for equally great powers fighting each other might swiftly turn into the sort of hell where I'd need to reconsider said value judgement.
Well on the bright side the minimum requirements for an angel to even consider giving power would be the person to accept that there is one God, and that all should submit to his authority. So good news no Commies and other leftists. Bad news Islamic Terrorists can get in.

Also the super powers aren't flying, you can have people as strong as super man. But there are other ease of life benefits even if you aren't fighting. Healing all disease including cancer could be worthwhile as well as youthfulness and curing disabilities and having a good body?
 

King Arts

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There's something to be said for that...can my wife and I make take the vows AFTER we get our kids out of the house?
You can make the vow of perpetual virginity as long as you are alive. And even if you were a slut before once you take it you are revirginized. But remember you can only take the vow you can't take it again, and if you break it and have sex you lose all your powers.
 
Great just what need in this day and age, a bunch of demi-gods/heroes/ mighty men getting super powers and enacting whatever new moral crusade In the name of thier version of God. as much as part of me would want to be snarky "about it, I think I'd just say "hard pass. Man can't even be trusted with what little power they have. Those who can't be trusted with little most certainly can't be trusted with a lot.
 

ATP

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So just to head off any shady arguments no this is not a deal from the devil, and you are not selling your soul for power.

If starting tomorrow angels came down to earth and offered to bless any human who is willing to take certain vows in exchange for the power to perform miracles of healing people, and enhanced strength and speed. Basically think super strong paladins.
The vows could be things like being forbidden from ever saying any word that is not true, or being forced to follow a chivalric code something like never backing down from a challenge to a duel, or a vow of eternal virginity?

What sorts of requirements would be too much for you to decide to not go for it?

Also how would the world react to angels handing out powers to a new class of warrior monks?
Why not? i am not good in lying or bedding woman anyway,so i could do that.
It would be hard only for good liars and don juans.
 

The Whispering Monk

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Osaul
Great just what need in this day and age, a bunch of demi-gods/heroes/ mighty men getting super powers and enacting whatever new moral crusade In the name of thier version of God. as much as part of me would want to be snarky "about it, I think I'd just say "hard pass. Man can't even be trusted with what little power they have. Those who can't be trusted with little most certainly can't be trusted with a lot.
I'm making the assumption that ACTUAL ANGELS are making the deals so they aren't giving the powers to "Those who can't be trusted with little most certainly can't be trusted with a lot."

If someone is taking the vows, then they are worthy to make such an exchange. I'm also assuming that said Angels can yank that power away whenever someone uses said powers wrongly. I could be wrong, in which case we're getting a very screwed up world.

In complete honesty, if an Angel appeared before me, telling me that God wants me to perform Acts in His name, I don't know that there's any way I say 'No.'
 

King Arts

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I'm making the assumption that ACTUAL ANGELS are making the deals so they aren't giving the powers to "Those who can't be trusted with little most certainly can't be trusted with a lot."

If someone is taking the vows, then they are worthy to make such an exchange. I'm also assuming that said Angels can yank that power away whenever someone uses said powers wrongly. I could be wrong, in which case we're getting a very screwed up world.

In complete honesty, if an Angel appeared before me, telling me that God wants me to perform Acts in His name, I don't know that there's any way I say 'No.'
The Angels aren't going to stick around. They will set up a process for people to take the vows then fuck off back to heaven. Once you take the vows if you break them then you will lose your powers. But there are loop holes. You have to keep the letter of the law, not the spirit.
 
The Angels aren't going to stick around. They will set up a process for people to take the vows then fuck off back to heaven. Once you take the vows if you break them then you will lose your powers. But there are loop holes. You have to keep the letter of the law, not the spirit.

I double down on my statement.
 

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