Versus Match Guts from Berserk(Pre-Band of The Hawk) VS Gregor “The Mountain” Clegane from ASOIAF

[CarlManvers2019]

Tyrion somehow manages to hire Guts as his Champion, the young man gives him a feeling that he’s more dangerous than his years suggest and Tyrion thinks that Oberyn maybe too emotional for the fight

Guts

Even if you force back what was lost, it still won't be the way it was.– Guts Guts, renowned as the "Black Swordsman", is a former mercenary and branded wanderer who travels the world in a constant internal struggle between pursuing his own ends and upholding his attachments to those dear to...

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Gregor Clegane

Ser Gregor Clegane is the Knight of Clegane's Keep and the head of House Clegane, a landed knight and bannerman to House Lannister of Casterly Rock. Gregor is a freakishly large man and for this he is often called the Mountain That Rides or simply the Mountain. His soldiers are known as the...

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Who wins? And how does the fight go?

@Shipmaster Sane
I know you know who’d win, but how’d the fight go or how would the winning occur in-terms of “tactics” since I don’t think Guts has grown physically powerful enough to wield the Dragonslayer at this point but still has his sharp mind and reflexes

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Tyrion somehow manages to hire Guts as his Champion, the young man gives him a feeling that he’s more dangerous than his years suggest and Tyrion thinks that Oberyn maybe too emotional for the fight

Guts

Even if you force back what was lost, it still won't be the way it was.– Guts Guts, renowned as the "Black Swordsman", is a former mercenary and branded wanderer who travels the world in a constant internal struggle between pursuing his own ends and upholding his attachments to those dear to...

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Gregor Clegane

Ser Gregor Clegane is the Knight of Clegane's Keep and the head of House Clegane, a landed knight and bannerman to House Lannister of Casterly Rock. Gregor is a freakishly large man and for this he is often called the Mountain That Rides or simply the Mountain. His soldiers are known as the...

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Who wins? And how does the fight go?

@Shipmaster Sane
I know you know who’d win, but how’d the fight go or how would the winning occur in-terms of “tactics” since I don’t think Guts has grown physically powerful enough to wield the Dragonslayer at this point but still has his sharp mind and reflexes

At this point Guts was still using a sword that weighed something like five to ten times what a normal two handed sword would, and with relative ease, so he's far from a normal human. His strength is unbelievable, by human standards.

It's easy to infer Book!Gregor having different levels of physical ability, and it's hard to get an exact read on his skill or agility.


Guts beat Basuso, who I'd probably place above Gregor without some better picture of Gregor's actual talents as a swordsman, but it was made very clear that was a fluke coming down more to the failure of Basuso's axe than Guts' skill.


I think it's fairly obvious that Guts is going to press the attack as hard as he can unless he sees a reason to do otherwise. Gregor might not be prepared for how strong the smaller man is, Guts took more than one warrior off guard that way.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

At this point Guts was still using a sword that weighed something like five to ten times what a normal two handed sword would, and with relative ease, so he's far from a normal human. His strength is unbelievable, by human standards.

It's easy to infer Book!Gregor having different levels of physical ability, and it's hard to get an exact read on his skill or agility.


Guts beat Basuso, who I'd probably place above Gregor without some better picture of Gregor's actual talents as a swordsman, but it was made very clear that was a fluke coming down more to the failure of Basuso's axe than Guts' skill.


I think it's fairly obvious that Guts is going to press the attack as hard as he can unless he sees a reason to do otherwise. Gregor might not be prepared for how strong the smaller man is, Guts took more than one warrior off guard that way.

Bazuso almost cut his head off in that clash

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Bazuso almost cut his head off in that clash

His death was a great tragedy, big-dick-Bazuso was a hero and a gentleman.

 

[Guncannon]

Wouldn't Guts still be faster than Clegane? Clegane might win in a grapple, but Gut's sword was still heavy enough to hit like a warhammer. Actually, I think comparing young Guts to peak Bobby B isn't too far off.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Wouldn't Guts still be faster than Clegane? Clegane might win in a grapple, but Gut's sword was still heavy enough to hit like a warhammer. Actually, I think comparing young Guts to peak Bobby B isn't too far off.

It's not entirely clear, Guts wasnt really faster than anyone he fought pre-hawk, to my knowledge. He was just "technically faster" than "humanly possible" given the proportion of his sword to his body.

 

[Guncannon]

It's not entirely clear, Guts wasnt really faster than anyone he fought pre-hawk, to my knowledge. He was just "technically faster" than "humanly possible" given the proportion of his sword to his body.

Then that should be enough to overcome Gregor. True, he's faster than people in-universe give him credit for, but that doesn't really mean anything other than most people think he's big and slow.