French intellectual given a 2 month suspended prison sentence for saying that mass immigration represents an “invasion"

DarthOne

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French intellectual Renaud Camus has been given a 2 month suspended prison sentence for saying that mass immigration into Europe represents an “invasion.”

Camus will only avoid jail by paying 1800 euros to two “anti-racist” organizations, SOS Racisme and the LICRA (International League against Racism and Anti-Semitism).

The writer, who is the author of Le Grand Remplacement (The Great Replacement), was charged with “public incitement to hate or violence on the basis of origin, ethnicity, nationality, race or religion.”

The conviction stems from a November 2017 speech in Colombey-les-deux Eglises to the National Council of European Resistance in which Camus declared, “Immigration has become an invasion.”

“The irreversible colonization is demographic colonization, by the replacement of the population,” said the author, adding, “The ethnic substitution, the great replacement, is the most important event in the history of our nation since it has existed; as with other people, if the story continues, it will not be that of France.”

Camus also called for a “national consensus of resistance” to oppose Islamization in “the struggle for the salvation of our common civilization, Celtic, Slavic, Germanic, Greek-Latin, Judeo-Christian.”

The part of Camus’ speech that specifically garnered the attention of judges was when he talked about European people being replaced.

Camus said mass immigration “is the substitution, the tendency to substitute everything with its emulator, normalized, standardized, interchangeable: The original with its copy, the authentic with its imitation, the true with the false, the mothers with surrogate mothers, the culture with free time and entertainment.”

France suffers Islamic terror attacks on such a routine basis that it’s barely even an important news story anymore. Many of those terrorists are radicalized by mosques that escape any police scrutiny, but Camus must be punished for his crime of opinion.

And there you have it. Free speech is now a crime in France.

My thoughts on this:
  • George Orwell is spinning in his grave.

  • Apparently European settling in the Americas was atrocious. But Muslim no-go zone in Europe are just DiVeRsItY doing its job.

Also, here's some appropriate music!
 
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Arlos

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Freedom of speech isn’t assured in our constitution.
Anyways, I am not chocked, at all, he’s not the first one and he won’t be the last.
You want to know something funny? Just last week, Macron sent a circular in regard to the municipal election, the final numbers announced nationally for the results of this election will not include the municipalities of less than 9 000 inhabitants, in France, that’s around 52% of the population.
And this is after everyone basically said this election was a referendum on Macron and his government.
 

DarthOne

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Freedom of speech isn’t assured in our constitution.
Anyways, I am not chocked, at all, he’s not the first one and he won’t be the last.
You want to know something funny? Just last week, Macron sent a circular in regard to the municipal election, the final numbers announced nationally for the results of this election will not include the municipalities of less than 9 000 inhabitants, in France, that’s around 52% of the population.
And this is after everyone basically said this election was a referendum on Macron and his government.
...that sounds hilariously illegal to me. And the sort of thing that, if this was a book, would have me rolling my eyes at the author’s clear inability to set up the would-be Revolution without making his antagonists stupid.
 

Arlos

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...that sounds hilariously illegal to me. And the sort of thing that, if this was a book, would have me rolling my eyes at the author’s clear inability to set up the would-be Revolution without making his antagonists stupid.
And yet it is being done.

if you can read French
 

Arlos

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Is anything? Because at this point, it seems as if France (as well as the rest of Europe) is being run like a medieval oligarchy.
Why do you think he is being called Manu the First? ;)
Frankly, our constitution doesn’t protect us much, not that it matter, since nobody read the damn thing and the little protection it offered already got shat upon.
it’s also constructed differently from the American one, with less emphasis on the people and more on the government and its powers.

edit: here is what we got on Freedom of speech;
« La loi garantit les expressions pluralistes des opinions et la participation équitable des partis et groupements politiques à la vie démocratique de la Nation. »

Rough translation;
« The law guarantee the expression of a plurality of opinion and a fair participation of political party and group in the democratic life of the nation »
 
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Terthna

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Why do you think he is being called Manu the First? ;)
Frankly, our constitution doesn’t protect us much, not that it matter, since nobody read the damn thing and the little protection it offered already got shat upon.
it’s also constructed differently from the American one, with less emphasis on the people and more on the government and its powers.

edit: here is what we got on Freedom of speech;
« La loi garantit les expressions pluralistes des opinions et la participation équitable des partis et groupements politiques à la vie démocratique de la Nation. »

Rough translation;
« The law guarantee the expression of a plurality of opinion and a fair participation of political party and group in the political life of a democratic nation »
Considering all the revolutions your country has had, it's surprising how little has changed for the French people. Maybe we Americans could give you guys a few pointers for your next one; at least in terms of writing an actually decent constitution.
 

Cherico

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France's leadership historically isn't very smart.

They dig in their heels keep doing stupid shit until a revolution happens, then after the chaos the new leaders with memories of what happened to the old ones do their job until their in return replaced by idiots who drag their heels and do stupid shit.

France is more or less due for another revolution with in our life time.
 

Floridaman

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Considering all the revolutions your country has had, it's surprising how little has changed for the French people. Maybe we Americans could give you guys a few pointers for your next one; at least in terms of writing an actually decent constitution.
Technically we already did, Thomas Jefferson helped write the declaration of the rights of man which does cover most of these points. The problem is a constitution means nothing if the people will not guard the protections it offers.
Article X – No one may be disturbed for his opinions, even religious ones, provided that their manifestation does not trouble the public order established by the law.

Article XI – The free communication of thoughts and of opinions is one of the most precious rights of man: any citizen thus may speak, write, print freely, except to respond to the abuse of this liberty, in the cases determined by the law.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Technically we already did, Thomas Jefferson helped write the declaration of the rights of man which does cover most of these points. The problem is a constitution means nothing if the people will not guard the protections it offers.
Article X – No one may be disturbed for his opinions, even religious ones, provided that their manifestation does not trouble the public order established by the law.

Article XI – The free communication of thoughts and of opinions is one of the most precious rights of man: any citizen thus may speak, write, print freely, except to respond to the abuse of this liberty, in the cases determined by the law.

Thomas Jefferson was a Privilaged Cishet White Male, therefore his words mean nothing to them

They will have a new constitution and it won’t be racist because someone originally from out of the country will make a new one based on Sharia Law
 
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Thomas Jefferson was a Privilaged Cishet White Male, therefore his words mean nothing to them

They will have a new constitution and it won’t be racist because someone originally from out of the country will make a new one based on Sharia Law
You know I can't wait when all the LGBT people, feminists, and what not have to deal with Sharia Law, and not law written down by dead white men.

An Islamic Society is not going to treat them the way they seem to think.
 

CarlManvers2019

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You know I can't wait when all the LGBT people, feminists, and what not have to deal with Sharia Law, and not law written down by dead white men.

An Islamic Society is not going to treat them the way they seem to think.

Odds are plenty will be submissive, they might actually prefer them to the men they accused of similar stuff and used as tools more or less, others may wake up too late

Then there will be the ones who fall for everything they say

Weak and easily swayed by the first influential voices they hear, rebelling only to rebel instead of when it is the right thing to do(which they delude themselves into thinking they already areand incapable of really thinking for themselves
 
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Oh I concur, a lot of modern leftists and liberals are actually rather submissive and weak willed.

They(those that could anyway) would likely convert to Islam with great enthusiasm, both to save their own necks and probably because they think that would win the affection or respect of the Muslims ruling them.

Those that did not-die hard feminists, homosexuals and so on-would either realize too late they were doomed, or they’d probably flee. But there likely wouldn’t be a place to flee too(at least for them) at that point.
 

JagerIV

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Technically we already did, Thomas Jefferson helped write the declaration of the rights of man which does cover most of these points. The problem is a constitution means nothing if the people will not guard the protections it offers.
Article X – No one may be disturbed for his opinions, even religious ones, provided that their manifestation does not trouble the public order established by the law.

Article XI – The free communication of thoughts and of opinions is one of the most precious rights of man: any citizen thus may speak, write, print freely, except to respond to the abuse of this liberty, in the cases determined by the law.

I love that "we guarantee this right" first clause of the sentence followed immediately by massive "but not really" clauses in the second half of it. You may think anything, as long as it does not desturb the public order established by law. So, if that public order is, say, Communism, then, well, any thought that can be considered non-communist is free game to be oppressed for.

And then the second basically seems to say "free speech will not be infringed, unless we write a law infringing speech".

Both of those are basically meaningless declarations as far as any limit on speech is concerned. Basically all the protection it seems to grant is requiring the government to write a law which lays out the standards by which your thought or action may be punished.
 

Tryglaw

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Oh I concur, a lot of modern leftists and liberals are actually rather submissive and weak willed.

They(those that could anyway) would likely convert to Islam with great enthusiasm, both to save their own necks and probably because they think that would win the affection or respect of the Muslims ruling them.

Those that did not-die hard feminists, homosexuals and so on-would either realize too late they were doomed, or they’d probably flee. But there likely wouldn’t be a place to flee too(at least for them) at that point.

In case you haven't yet, read this:


Excellent book.
 

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