PsihoKekec
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Five minutes of hate news
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Lanmandragon
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Man rhe Brits elites are bigger tratiors then the Dems. Sad state of affairs.
We need to engage in active repatriation of every cunt. Let alone the criminals
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Hmmm why do i get the feeling that a lot of said criminals will "tragically" die at the hands of their fellow inmates
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
Very unlikely, this isn't Russia where terorrists and pedos are sometimes mistakenly sent to general area of the prison..
Yaqub Ahmed? Nah, our prisons are full of Muslims from Pakistan who industrialise that sort of thing. He'll be fine
British prisons (like German, French, etc. ones) are by now majority non-British in their inmate population. These chaps will be fine. /sarc.
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Now in an American or Russian prison that would be a whole other story
Airedale260
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I made the mistake of actually digging into it on another board and got slammed as a white person trying to justify the shooting of a black man, instead of, say, trying to figure out what the hell actually happened. It’s a mess and I find it highly problematic, but there are so
Essentially Georgia law apparently allows for private citizens to make an arrest of a suspected felon even if they’re not in hot pursuit of the suspect, but they see him the next day. The victim and the shooter had prior encounters back when the shooter was still working as a cop & investigator, so saying he could positively ID the suspect wasn’t a stretch.
The two issues with it are: 1) Excessive force, since if he tried fleeing they should have pursued and tackled him (that they appear to be far too out of shape to do that doesn’t mean lethal force is okay). I think they simply were upset he was going to get away and fired. Also, 2) The fact that you can subsequently make an arrest for a crime you don’t see committed in your presence (McMichael seeing the video apparently counts as “immediate knowledge” under Georgia law).
So these idiots need to be charged with manslaughter at the very least, possibly second-degree murder, and Georgia needs to amend its law so private citizens, even retired cops, can’t play vigilante.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
L.A. County jail inmates trying to infect themselves with coronavirus, sheriff says
The L.A. County inmates are seen in a video drinking from a communal container amid the coronavirus outbreak, the sheriff says.
www.latimes.com
Wuflu redemption. No need to get out of prison through the sewage pipes with a sexy poster to hide your escape plan.
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Legally, it's likely felony murder (a death that happens during the commission of a felony). Their arrest was likely a false arrest, because for the arrest to be a citizens arrest, the guy would have to have known that Arbery committed a felony, not just trespassing.
Morally, it's a lynching. I'm wildly in favor of self defense, but not expanding vigilantism.
It's basic economics. They've incentivized having the virus.L.A. County jail inmates trying to infect themselves with coronavirus, sheriff says
The L.A. County inmates are seen in a video drinking from a communal container amid the coronavirus outbreak, the sheriff says.
Wuflu redemption. No need to get out of prison through the sewage pipes with a sexy poster to hise your escape plan.
This is all pointless theorizing when there is a video of the confrontation publicly available.
Here's one, from a pro-Arbery lawyer source in fact, - this one is tolerated by twitter as it doesn't show the last part of it with the third shot and Arbery becoming incapacitated, but it shows what is the most contentious part, and the full one is also available to whoever wants to find it.
Long story short, it's going to be a pretty nasty and politically charged case with a contentious argument about what exactly happened in roughly 1 second before the first shot was fired during which little is visible on the video, after which the shotgun guy and Arbery ended up fighting for control of the shotgun.
It doesn't matter how Arbery died if the stopping was a felony (which, if it wasn't a completely legal citizens arrest, it then is a felony). Felony murder is a death during a felony. It really doesn't matter if the killing was a complete accident or not, or who precisely caused it, as long as the defendants had something to do with it.
Even if it had been a legal citizens arrest, I don't think they would be allowed to use a self defense case anyway, as they initiated the conflict. At that point, it becomes a manslaughter case. But I don't think they will get there.
-Did they initiate the conflict in the sense of initiating a physical fight?
-Did they even get to the stage of physically attempting a citizen's arrest (rather than just planning that), whether screwed up or justified? The audio in the video is not good, but other sources suggest they were yelling at him to stop and talk... That's not a felony, and not a citizen's arrest either.
Airedale260
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Essentially it boils down to them using excessive force while trying to make a citizens arrest. The elder McMichael allegedly saw video of a burglary the day before and ID’d Arbery from that (being a retired cop with prior cases involving him, he’d know him well enough to correctly ID him). So he sees Arbery out jogging the next day and rushes to make the arrest, which is legal in GA.
My guess is that they tried saying he attacked them and ran because even with reason to detain him, you can’t use deadly force when arresting someone. Or at least not unless they escalate first, which Arbery didn’t. He tried running away.
So that’s likely why when the cops showed up, McMichael claims Arbery attacked them and started running, because that would give a veneer of legitimacy to it being a valid shoot. The cops likely didn’t press him even with possible questions because McMichael was a brother officer and then a county detective in the DA’s office, especially when the victim is someone with a less than stellar reputation in the community.*
*-That said, he didn’t deserve to die for resisting arrest. And that’s even assuming McMichael did make a valid ID.
Anyway, my point is, it appears to be a bit more complicated than “two white rednecks gun down random black man in cold blood.” It’s still wrong, but there’s a bit more to the story.
Tzeentchean Perspective
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CarlManvers2019
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They're "Just Following Orders" man, it's not helped if they'll look like the "bad guys" for going against Trudeau
Not blood boiling but definitely eyeroll inducing.
How's that for your daily dose of derp?
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