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Cherico

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Found that New York has a snitch program for enforcing their Idling laws:

$87.50 for 3 Minutes: Inside the Hot Market for Videos of Idling Trucks

I'm not going to get into whether the law itself is good or bad, because how much pollution idling trucks produce isn't something I know a lot about.

I'd assume that they idle for some the the same reasons I've left my car running in a parking lot though. Weather conditions can suck, and sometimes you don't want to run down your battery while using it for a long period of time.

But incentivizing citizens to tattle on other citizens for cash feels really scummy to me.

new york city has a history of scummy behavor
 

DarthOne

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Last night, in Kiev the capital of Ukraine, unknown armed men have broke into the house of the Orthodox Priest Genady Batenko and have kidnapped him. The police have refused to start an investigation. Father Genady works in the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Patriarchate of Moscow, as an expert on bio-ethics, being also the surgeon.

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxwoFlmYnnDjBY6z7-T98P0sbB1DRlOSpC
 

bintananth

behind a desk
Found that New York has a snitch program for enforcing their Idling laws:

$87.50 for 3 Minutes: Inside the Hot Market for Videos of Idling Trucks

I'm not going to get into whether the law itself is good or bad, because how much pollution idling trucks produce isn't something I know a lot about.

I'd assume that they idle for some the the same reasons I've left my car running in a parking lot though. Weather conditions can suck, and sometimes you don't want to run down your battery while using it for a long period of time.

But incentivizing citizens to tattle on other citizens for cash feels really scummy to me.
Those large diesel engines are not easy to start and only *need* to be shut down when maintenence is required.

According to a truck driver I know they need to idle for about an hour a day just to keep the battery charged.
 

Morphic Tide

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Those large diesel engines are not easy to start and only *need* to be shut down when maintenence is required.

According to a truck driver I know they need to idle for about an hour a day just to keep the battery charged.
So much like the driving limits, it's a case of legislators with zero clue how the business works fucking it up in attempts to make it "work better".
 

Bear Ribs

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Found that New York has a snitch program for enforcing their Idling laws:

$87.50 for 3 Minutes: Inside the Hot Market for Videos of Idling Trucks

I'm not going to get into whether the law itself is good or bad, because how much pollution idling trucks produce isn't something I know a lot about.

I'd assume that they idle for some the the same reasons I've left my car running in a parking lot though. Weather conditions can suck, and sometimes you don't want to run down your battery while using it for a long period of time.

But incentivizing citizens to tattle on other citizens for cash feels really scummy to me.
Diesel fuel turns into molasses in cold weather (anything below about 32 degrees), such as you might run into in, oh, I dunno, a decent chunk of New York. Semitrucks use a heating system to ensure their fuel stays liquid but it won't work if the engine is off.

Truckers also normally sleep in their trucks, and use the engine on idle to keep the interior comfortable and to run the interior fridge, microwave, and TV (No really, there's practically an apartment in the better-equipped ones). While a 10-hour idle will burn maybe 30 bucks worth of diesel it's dramatically cheaper than a hotel even before the difficulties of parking a semi at a hotel.

The batteries make the situation even worse as the amount of power needed to start a truck is massive and a jump start alone typically runs at least a hundred bucks.

And then wear a tear, most manufacturers recommend idling for 5-10 minutes minimum to cool the engine before shutting it off, so that it cools more slowly and reduces thermal shock.
 

bintananth

behind a desk
So much like the driving limits, it's a case of legislators with zero clue how the business works fucking it up in attempts to make it "work better".
Listening to someone start a large diesel engine that's been left to sit for awhile when there's snow on the ground is interesting because that engine probably weighs more than your car does and it's not happy about being woken up from a nap.
 

Arlos

Sad Monarchist
Not sure if this is where it goes, but since we don’t have a news propers mega thread...:oops:

Apparently, a 737 Max crashed in China, no clue on if it’s a pilot mistake, or there is another conception problem.
 

gral

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Not a Max, it was a 737-800. There's a video of the aircraft going down in a 90-degree angle. Nasty shit.
 

Arlos

Sad Monarchist
Not a Max, it was a 737-800. There's a video of the aircraft going down in a 90-degree angle. Nasty shit.
No, I definitely heard it was a Max through people in the industry (tough it’s never 100% certain, sometimes news get distorted), most media outlet say they don’t know the model yet.
 

gral

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90 degree angle? Like, straight-up diving nose-first into the ground? Jesus Christ, that sounds deliberate.
Either deliberate, or a sign some went really wrong(loss of wings, horizontal stabilizers locked on fully down position - both of those have happened before, although with different models of aircraft).
 

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