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Yes that Russia, the place with the historical Russian landmass and full of Russians.
russian landmass - true till mongol conqest.But now is full of soveks.If you do not undarstand difference,read "Letter from Russia" De coustine wrote after his trip there in 1839.

He go there as tsar supported and come back beliving in democracy - but even in that corrupted hellhole people still have some virtues.Now,after 70 years of communism,even that vanished.
 
I don't know your definition of reasonable, it's almost certainly not the same as mine.
The deal I'd make to all protectorates is that any American you allow into your nation is given limited immunity from local laws. They are still liable for murder, rape, or theft. You may also punish them for anything that is a crime in the US. However the punishment can't go beyond what the punishment in the US would be. Furthermore some crimes Americans would be granted absolute immunity too. Like for instance Lese Majeste. Basically Americans would be given absolute freedom of speech rights just like in America when they are in foreign nations that accept the protection of the U.S.

Why not try third options like China, which would demand less than you and Russia?
Ironically this would be a free miracle for eurofederalists, as they would also demand less and with US leadership going bonkers they would look like a relatively sane and benign option in comparison.
China might be an option to bow towards. But I don't think you'd go for that.

As for the Eurofederalists lol they won't demand less. Their minimum demand is for the nations of Europe to lose more power and be like US states.

Wrong. Most of the world finds it most convenient to rely on you as opposed to other options. If you dramatically worsen the offer, many will change their preference, and even more won't trust you to not suddenly change such relations in the future even worse.
Well we aren't changing anything it's the EU and UK that want to punish Americans for saying things online that are illegal in Europe but legal in America.
 
The deal I'd make to all protectorates is that any American you allow into your nation is given limited immunity from local laws. They are still liable for murder, rape, or theft. You may also punish them for anything that is a crime in the US. However the punishment can't go beyond what the punishment in the US would be. Furthermore some crimes Americans would be granted absolute immunity too. Like for instance Lese Majeste. Basically Americans would be given absolute freedom of speech rights just like in America when they are in foreign nations that accept the protection of the U.S.
So countries t hat are not USA reliant tourist havens would simply not allow Americans, or only allow few well behaved ones for good reason.
Now that's an election winner, right?
Less destinations for you to travel to, so much easier to pick the next vacation spot!
China might be an option to bow towards. But I don't think you'd go for that.

As for the Eurofederalists lol they won't demand less. Their minimum demand is for the nations of Europe to lose more power and be like US states.
Well if US starts to demanding the same, what difference does it make.
Well we aren't changing anything it's the EU and UK that want to punish Americans for saying things online that are illegal in Europe but legal in America.
So? If you want to punish countries because some politicians there want things you disagree with, well then your country will be treated as about as much of a viable partner as a meth addict ruled cartel.
Reading this sort of "big brained" ideas around here is slowly making me sympathize with the "muh tone and presidential behavior" centrists. They may be stupidly passive and unchanging on some topics, but hey, at least they aren't going wildly retarded on anything unusual, as they see the spicier people do, and so they make it their priority to not let such people get into power ever, because if that happens, all bets are off, they will ruin everything.
 
russian landmass - true till mongol conqest.But now is full of soveks.If you do not undarstand difference,read "Letter from Russia" De coustine wrote after his trip there in 1839.

He go there as tsar supported and come back beliving in democracy - but even in that corrupted hellhole people still have some virtues.Now,after 70 years of communism,even that vanished.
It doesn't matter what you want to be true, Russia is a country and Russians are a people who speak Russian. Calling them "soveks" because you think communism changed their culture irreparably doesn't work because cultures change all the time. The Chinese are still Chinese, and China still China, even though they've been conquered a dozen times. And modern Russia is very Russian as a reaction to that soviet period.
 
Actually the Russia which currently has a chunk of it occupied by the Ukraine... thanks to American weapons and various mercenaries.
The parts of Ukraine occupied by Russia are an order of magnitude larger and will actually mean something a year from now
 
Actually the Russia which currently has a chunk of it occupied by the Ukraine... thanks to American weapons and various mercenaries.
They arnt mercenaries if they are not fighting for the aspect of money, and are fighting fir the nation.
Additionally, the current one is actually Ukrainians in Russia.
The parts of Ukraine occupied by Russia are an order of magnitude larger and will actually mean something a year from now
While yes, it isn't as big of a deal as the battle lines have basically stagnated
 
An updated map of Ukraine invasion of russia @Kursk oblast. Starting to think it might be to position arty or rocket systems for depth on russian logistic infrastructure.

 
I reckon one part that has kept Putin's rule relatively stable has been that people have gotten used to the slow but steady pace of mobilization. A deep penetration into Russia proper may force the Russians' hand to ramp up their propaganda and mobilization, which then will again create problems for their industry and logistics to keep pace. All in all, not a good showing for the Russians, even if it's a move that - if it fails - may very well break the back of Ukraine's army.
 
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This is completely unworkable.
It's EU bureaucracy, it's not like they care.
It's also not that meaningful as implemented.
Wonder how much bribery by whoever makes these was done to get this passed.
 
It doesn't matter what you want to be true, Russia is a country and Russians are a people who speak Russian. Calling them "soveks" because you think communism changed their culture irreparably doesn't work because cultures change all the time. The Chinese are still Chinese, and China still China, even though they've been conquered a dozen times. And modern Russia is very Russian as a reaction to that soviet period.
You want to belive,that russia still exist.You could belive in fairy tales,but it do not change reality.And reality is,that Russia from De Coustine times had old elites which would die for their honour,and serfs who loved to work on land,even when it not belonged to them.

Now? current kgbstan elites would not knew what honour is even if it come and kicked them ,and their serfs abadonned villages and go to cities,becouse they do not want to work on fields.

China - if Mao style rulers hold them for 73 years,they would cease to be chineese,too.
Just like we poles would be all soveks,if we were under soviets longer,and without Catholic Church.And even then,30% of polish population or more are now soveks,not poles.
 
You want to belive,that russia still exist.You could belive in fairy tales,but it do not change reality.And reality is,that Russia from De Coustine times had old elites which would die for their honour,and serfs who loved to work on land,even when it not belonged to them.

Now? current kgbstan elites would not knew what honour is even if it come and kicked them ,and their serfs abadonned villages and go to cities,becouse they do not want to work on fields.

China - if Mao style rulers hold them for 73 years,they would cease to be chineese,too.
Just like we poles would be all soveks,if we were under soviets longer,and without Catholic Church.And even then,30% of polish population or more are now soveks,not poles.
The only one throwing around fairy tales and schizobabel is you, Russia is a real place that is currently occupying large parts of Ukraine. Period.
 
You know reading what the EU told Musk to do....is there any way he could just block the interview in the EU while allowing Americans to still watch it? Or will Congress grow a pair and tell the EU NO?
 
You want to belive,that russia still exist.
Stop throwing that nonsense around.
Tell me, what do we call the people in 2024 who speak russian and call themselves russians and live in a country named russia?

Are the the same as the russians from 100 years ago? of course not. those are all dead and gone.
Is their culture in ruins from the evils of communism? of course it is. But frankly you could say the same about every nation in the world today.

USA, germany, england, australia, etc... all have had their culture destroyed by the evils of communism. their modern culture is pedophilia, child grooming, and worshipping butt sex.

Nobody thinks the current russians are the old russians. But we need to call them something. and that something is... Russian. because that is the name of their language and country and what they call themselves
 
You know reading what the EU told Musk to do....is there any way he could just block the interview in the EU while allowing Americans to still watch it? Or will Congress grow a pair and tell the EU NO?
Musk could do it easily. EU could do it too, or at least block twitter completely. But with 99% certainty the EU would not do such a thing, and would very much prefer for Musk to do it himself, because there are very few politicians in the EU wanting to have to explain why suddenly twitter isn't working and how it was their own initiative to block it. It would certainly cause seat losses, possibly even early elections in few countries.

That's the big trick about 21st century western censorship. The politicians want it, but not nearly enough to be willing to suffer the political consequences of being responsible for it and having own name attached to it.
 
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Stop throwing that nonsense around.
Tell me, what do we call the people in 2024 who speak russian and call themselves russians and live in a country named russia?

Are the the same as the russians from 100 years ago? of course not. those are all dead and gone.
Is their culture in ruins from the evils of communism? of course it is. But frankly you could say the same about every nation in the world today.

USA, germany, england, australia, etc... all have had their culture destroyed by the evils of communism. their modern culture is pedophilia, child grooming, and worshipping butt sex.

Nobody thinks the current russians are the old russians. But we need to call them something. and that something is... Russian. because that is the name of their language and country and what they call themselves

The problem with communism is that were still too close to it in time.

100 years hence I expect historians to be a lot more honest about its evils and just how evil it was.
 

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