How can you render them instinct then?
Tell me without vaccines?
I know it isnt
Because changing it would make it useless and would make them no longer effective...
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Tell me without vaccines?
Bigking321
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And how is that different than the Vax they tried to mandate everyone be forced to take?
Did it stop covid? No it did nothing to prevent catching or spreading it. In fact it damages the immune system. And causes heart problems. And causes miscarriages. And raises cancer rates by a insanely huge amount.
So useless and not effective. Actively bad for the population. And they did it anyway.
So... I don't see your point?
Are you claiming they should be trusted even after that?
"Like sure they tried to force everyone to take poison and compromise their health, but they would never mess with other vaccines. That's crazy talk!"
Edit: And they went after and tried to ruin anyone that pushed back on any of it. The pointless lock downs and covid precautions. That ivermectin is a really effective treatment for it. That the vaxx was incredibly dangerous and unsafe. That covid was funded and planned by the dod and the health wizards that lied about every single detail about it to cover their asses. The fact they denied it came from that lab for forever when they knew damn well that's where it was from. That they investigated themselves and found themselves innocent. And worked with the government and media to ban anyone claiming anything else but their lies.
Hell, no. I will never trust these people again. If they offered me a glass of water I'm going to assume it's poisoned.
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>X person is sick
>Quarantine person until disease is fought off
>Do this with every person when they get sick
>Disease dies off because there's no more hosts with it
Bam, simple, done.
That...isn't how it works.
Because if a sick person isn't detected in your authoritarian shit hole, you get a plague scenario.
Edit: did not work for china
Humanity has survived for a hundred thousand years without vaccines, I think we can handle a lil measles as a worst-case scenario.
And with how much surveilance is out and about nowadays, I think we can target every single sick person as well.
Totally worked for China.
And..we survived by pure luck.
The black plagued killed what, a third of Europe total? In a time where transmission was not as easy to cross the world...
You're implying the measles and polio are in any way comparable to the black plague? And that low density western nations are china?
For the amount if surveillance China has they still couldn't stop the spread...
And no, but often times by the time said diseases get caught it could have already spread
Ir people will revolt and not say that have said thing until jts too late
Unless you require mandated daily testing.
There is no way to stop a spread of diseases in the manner you say.
You can mitigate it but you can never truly stop it without vaccines.
The chinavirus turned out to be a nothingburger that gave some people the sniffles and killed old sickly people who were on death's doorstep anyways. Who cares?
You absolutely can stop diseases just by making sure people who get sick, don't spread it.
But that'd be inconvenient for people who WANT people to be sick.
You're arguing from a defeatist 'we NEED vaccines', neglecting the fact humanity thrived without them.
So...a third if Europe dying is thriving?
You are opening yourself up to biological warfare as your population would be horribly unable to deal with any mass sickness.
Add in the fact that you are basically asking people to die instead kf get treatment to stop a diseases.
Vaccines and cures have allowed us to keep people alive who would otherwise be dead.
And Covid in China was worse then what we had...
We have no clue what covid in china was like, and from the looks of things most of the deaths were from the government welding people into their own homes without food or water lmao.
And you're still equating commonplace diseases and ones which were dying out before vaccines, with the black death, arguably one of the most dangerous diseases known to man?
Bigking321
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You seem to be conflating the view that we don't need vaccines for everything with no medicine whatsoever.
I don't think anyone has said that?
I am not conflating the two.
I am making the statement that we found a cure for the black plague. And can cure/vaccinate it.
Same with Measles, Mumps, Chickenpox, Rubella, HPV.
Whooping caugh.
some of these happen due to the nature of the enviroment around you, and are not just cured by cutting everyone off and making no immigrants show up.
let's not even get started on things like Tentnus, which has a vaccine for it, or Rabies.
another thing we have vaccines for.
He is saying we dint need vaccines.
Bigking321
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Yes.
And you said he wanted people to not get treatment for diseases and mentioned cures. Which have nothing to do with vaccines.
Except everything I mentioned has a vqccine/cure for it.
That without jt would basically be condemning them to death
Bigking321
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A vaccine is not a cure. Why are you trying to combine those two concepts now?
Vaccines are preventative. A cure is something you take after getting sick to treat the symptoms.
These are not the same.
Vaccines are preventative. A cure is something you take after getting sick to treat the symptoms.
These are not the same.
Vaccines can help orevent and even cause them not to happen, depending on the vaccine.
Bigking321
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Yes. But a cure is something different. Like I said.
You seem to be trying to imply Zeno is against medicine entirely and not just unnecessary vaccines.
SoliFortissimi
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There are literal Antivaxxers on this thread, and in a majority? No wonder we are losing in the West.
At this point, I'm convinced half of you are just dead weight that keeps 90% of the public from taking us seriously. The average educated man sees some whacko talking about how vaccines will kill everyone any day now or cause autism, sees that it obviously hasn't, and then mentally slots all Conservatives as "crazy people" and moves one step closer to the Left.
And to make things worse, I don't see any way to change you. So looks like we can only delay defeat for the time being.
At this point, I'm convinced half of you are just dead weight that keeps 90% of the public from taking us seriously. The average educated man sees some whacko talking about how vaccines will kill everyone any day now or cause autism, sees that it obviously hasn't, and then mentally slots all Conservatives as "crazy people" and moves one step closer to the Left.
And to make things worse, I don't see any way to change you. So looks like we can only delay defeat for the time being.
Bigking321
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Shrug. I think the concept behind vaccines is fine.
I just don't trust the people making the vaccines or what they claim after covid. They destroyed any faith I had in them.
If people still want to have whatever injected into them after that I wish them the best.
I just don't trust the people making the vaccines or what they claim after covid. They destroyed any faith I had in them.
If people still want to have whatever injected into them after that I wish them the best.