Do you think all the racists live in the South? Between this and the "he can't be a racist, he isn't a hillbilly", I do have to wonder.
No, of course not. Trump could in theory be a racist. But he doesn't act as one would expect a racist to act. He appoints a black member to his administration. He releases black prisoners. He reforms prison for the benefit of black prisoners. He gives money to black colleges. These are not the actions of a hardened bigot. These are the actions of someone who wants their vote.
Nor does his background indicate that this was the case. Trump grew up in the New Netherlands region, where the Dutch originally settled. The entire settlement had never had a strong, cohesive ethnic identity and was thus had developed an early tolerant culture. Not everyone acted that way of course, but a dominate culture does not require that everyone act that way, but only that everyone is expected to act that way. You never had to LIKE the black kids, but you were expected to not try and lynch the black kids.
You are however, trying to match him up as if he came from a Deep Southern family, where social status is locked in at birth and everyone is expected to remain in their social caste. Where laws are bent to favor the rich and wealthy (without shame) and the rest can see to themselves. You've confused mercantilism with Deep Southern libertarianism.
anyway, if you don't like it, take it up with all the Trump voters who answered the poll incorrectly.
Or I'll just ignore it, because as we've seen in this election, most polls are
complete and utter bullshit.
I don't think you have any idea what "collectivism", "socialism", or "communism" mean. And I think trying to explain to you would be a waste of both our time.
I expect that few would trust a commie to explain anything, given they've bought into failed economic policy masquerading around as an ideology.
Nobody thinks the thing you are arguing against. Nobody believes Donald Trump hangs with the KKK or skinheads. When you make up a weaker position to argue against, it is called a "straw man" and is usually evidence you either don't understand what is being argues, or recognize you can't effectively defeat the actual argument.
Hey, asshole, one of the fucking moderators in the 2020 election literally tried to poison the well by asking Trump to denounce white supremacy. The media ran with the idea that Trump supported the white supremacists in Charlottesville for years. And before then, it was a constant, unrelenting accusation that Trump was a racist in 2016. Including nation-wide commercials of a red pick-up truck with a Trump flag chasing down minority kids.
Not trying to paint Trump as a racist? Fucking blow me.
The idea that wealthy northerners were never racist is just completely wrong.
No one said that. I instead, have told you that social racism was imbedded primarily in the Deep South and of a degree of xenophobia in the Appalachian region. It was not something the north had.
Just like the idea that all poor southerners were racist.
Also not what I said.
Fred Trump wouldn't have been engaging in racial discrimination in his real estate business if it didn't make him money, and it wouldn't make him money if New Yorkers weren't racist like the rest of the US.
Or maybe you should educate yourself.
A lot of the former slaves came into contact with the Scott-Irish, who were historically portrayed for being horribly uneducated, uncivil, and very violent. A lot of the black slang you hear today is not something black communities invented, but rather something that was imported and incorporated into their new culture.
And the Scott-Irish were the most unpopular nation within the early United States. They first arrived in Pennsylvania, a region dominated by Quakers, whose basic motto was "People are good, government just gets in the way of them" and promptly proved them wrong. The Scotts-Irish came from war-torn parts of the UK at the time and many of them became characterized as opportunistic thieves, loiterers, and savage brawlers. It got so bad that they started pushing them down into the southern-western portion of the state and encouraged them to settle in the Appalachian mountains.
And they were routinely derided by Yankees, Quakers, New Yorkers, Tidewater gentlemen, and Deep Southern plantation owners for CENTURIES.
Given the draw of New York City of the times, what you probably saw was the spreading of African communities who had absorbed a strong degree of Scott-Irish culture moving into New York City. And so naturally, because they acted like the stereotypical Scott-Irish, they were TREATED as Scott-Irish. It was less about their race and more about their culture.
Regardless, what we generally see with Trump's father is that he cared less about racial standing than he did about who could pay him more money and who caused the most property damage. Because his father was a tightwad. This is a guy who would actually show someone how to properly tighten or install something because he wanted it done both right and with maximum efficiency. Everyone knew the guy paid like shit, but he always paid on time. And that was worth something.
His father was just a fucking tightwad.
But he's a New Yorker, so no surprises there.
And yes, you can still find racists, but those racists are a product of their own upbringing or experiences, NOT the cultural impression left upon them.
