Battletech Clover Spear - The War of 3056 (Battletech AU)

[Georgiaboy1966]

Just to give you an idea of the future of the universe, here's a timeline and a short piece of the results of the Harrowing:

Timeline 3059-3077.docx
- Timeline

Results of the Harrowing.docx - Results of the Harrowing

I can see several possiblilties for the 5th Succession War.

1st. Capella/Andurian draws in FedCom and FWL. I rate this as a strong possibility.

2nd Kurita/Ghost bear. I rate this as small/medium possibility.

3rd. FedCom/Kurita. caused by a assassin strike by ISF on Samantha SD while at training pulling in the training unit and OPFor chasing down the attackers.

4th Clan Triumviant attacks Wolf/Ghost Bear holdings. rate medium to high possibility.

5th Clan Triumvant attacks Diamond Sharks and Goliath Scorpian (who went to Kowloon, go figure) which draws the FedCom into the war cause of their worlds being attacked.

6th. Clan Triumvant finds that Clan Snow Raven have set up in one of the Three periphery Nations and goes after them, does not matter which one is attacked, but the Taurins are drawn into the war.

 

[CurtisLemay]

So, who are the principal nations of the 5th Succession War?

The Federated Commonwealth
The Capellan Confederation
The Free Worlds League (as a true Blakist puppet)
The Draconis Combine
The Triumverate of the Clans
The Wolf Republic
The Ghost Bear Empire
The Nova Cat Republic
The Azami Caliphate
ComStar
Free Rasalhague Republic

In short, a true conflagration.

 

[PsihoKekec]

And you did some foreshadowing of Arthur SD doing something very stupid, possibly a catalyst, weakening the FC before shit hits the fan.

 

[CurtisLemay]

Consider also this,
By 3077? The FC will not have seen a major power conflict in over a decade, not since Magic Glass in 3064 and those were glorified raids. Sure, there's counter-insurgency work in the Capellan Confederation, and peacekeeping work along the border with Andurien from time to time....but the AFFC is a little out of practice. A nugget 'Mechwarrior in 3056 is now in his 40s and is getting ready to think about mustering out. Many figures of 3056 are already retired. Simply put, the AFFC isn't all that ready for the war to come. They're ready for the last war. And it's going to hurt at first.

 

[Tiamat]

The Federated Commonwealth
The Capellan Confederation
The Free Worlds League (as a true Blakist puppet)
The Draconis Combine
The Triumverate of the Clans
The Wolf Republic
The Ghost Bear Empire
The Nova Cat Republic
The Azami Caliphate
ComStar
Free Rasalhague Republic

In short, a true conflagration.

Wolf Republic??

Is it just me or does something about the image of Wolf Clanners potentially voting at the ballot box sound utterly hilarious? 😆

 

[CurtisLemay]

Wolf Republic??

Is it just me or does something about the image of Wolf Clanners potentially voting at the ballot box sound utterly hilarious? 😆

It's not quite like that, but it's a unique solution to the problem.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

Mind you the good news for the AFFC is that they likely have by far the biggest fleet in existence and they've probably had the budget and industry to afford to train frequently and hard.

 

[CurtisLemay]

Mind you the good news for the AFFC is that they likely have by far the biggest fleet in existence and they've probably had the budget and industry to afford to train frequently and hard.

It is very good news, and it's the saving grace of the AFFC when war comes. But yeah, there's a lot of green kids when it does. And not just kids.

 

[Typhonis]

It is very good news, and it's the saving grace of the AFFC when war comes. But yeah, there's a lot of green kids when it does. And not just kids.

Green officers as well. Depending on where it takes place...

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I can't imagine that there has been NO fighting for the FC forces, so they'll be existing institutional combat experience, just not on the large scale. Logistics will probably suffer initially, especially during the first counter attacks the FC attempts, as logistics are much simpler on the defense.

 

[CurtisLemay]

I can't imagine that there has been NO fighting for the FC forces, so they'll be existing institutional combat experience, just not on the large scale. Logistics will probably suffer initially, especially during the first counter attacks the FC attempts, as logistics are much simpler on the defense.

You'd be right, but the AFFC hasn't fought a near-peer competitor since 3064. That's the big issue.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

You'd be right, but the AFFC hasn't fought a near-peer competitor since 3064. That's the big issue.

Certainly, though 10-15 years is not really enough time to lose the institutional knowledge gained by the FC, especially with people like Victor in charge. It will surely take some dusting off, and they'll likely be more mistakes made. That learning curve will suck, but I don't think it will amount to tragedy on any sort of large scale.

The theaters near Clan territory as well as the Draconis March are likely going to be the best prepared as the former is staring at clanners (no explanation needed), and the latter is facing the Krazy Combine. The Capellan/FWL border sounds like it's had some hot times as well.

Weakest borders feel like they're going to be the FWL/FC-Lyran region and anything facing the peripheries (of course).

 

[Typhonis]

I would bet that the main kerflufle could easily be started by the WOB. Look at the Jihad for instance.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I would bet that the main kerflufle could easily be started by the WOB. Look at the Jihad for instance.

Wouldn't be surprising. And they definitely have a hard-on for the FC at this point.

 

[Typhonis]

Wouldn't be surprising. And they definitely have a hard-on for the FC at this point.

Add in them trying Doppleganger 2 Electric Boogaloo? There you go...only who would they Doppleganger?

 

[The Whispering Monk]

@Typhonis
I'm not sure Dopple ganger would aim at anyone highly placed if it happened at all. I'd expect it to be a force commander so they can attack across a boarder in order to start something. The hard part is pulling that off without getting caught/shot/arrested by a subordinate or Counterintel agent.

 

[Shermpotter]

Okay, Curtis, I love the scenario and how you are making it more realistic and all. But that's where my qualifier of 'more' comes in. The Harrowing sounds like it is worse than the OTL version, and the 3 Clans left have zero chance of taking the Inner Sphere or realistically any of the other surviving clans. I don't care how many sibkos they decant, they have less than zero experience against the Spheroids. And if they do try anything I fully expect the FC and others to go out to the Homeworlds and permanently resolve this problem up to and including salting the earth. And as far as the Wobbies go, the FC has an equal if not bigger stiffy for them. The battle cry of "Remember Hanse and Melissa" will reverberate. And the crap they pulled during the Fall of Sian ought to be open knowledge now. Last but not least, no one, not just the FC, has anything resembling peer to peer combat experience recently, not when the peer is the FC (which is truly an enormous, wealthy, well-populated and advanced polity). Realistically the FC is almost as large as all the others combined.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Okay, Curtis, I love the scenario and how you are making it more realistic and all. But that's where my qualifier of 'more' comes in. The Harrowing sounds like it is worse than the OTL version, and the 3 Clans left have zero chance of taking the Inner Sphere or realistically any of the other surviving clans. I don't care how many sibkos they decant, they have less than zero experience against the Spheroids. And if they do try anything I fully expect the FC and others to go out to the Homeworlds and permanently resolve this problem up to and including salting the earth. And as far as the Wobbies go, the FC has an equal if not bigger stiffy for them. The battle cry of "Remember Hanse and Melissa" will reverberate. And the crap they pulled during the Fall of Sian ought to be open knowledge now. Last but not least, no one, not just the FC, has anything resembling peer to peer combat experience recently, not when the peer is the FC (which is truly an enormous, wealthy, well-populated and advanced polity). Realistically the FC is almost as large as all the others combined.

And remember...the FC is nominally allied with the reborn Capellan Confederation.

 

[CurtisLemay]

Okay, Curtis, I love the scenario and how you are making it more realistic and all. But that's where my qualifier of 'more' comes in. The Harrowing sounds like it is worse than the OTL version, and the 3 Clans left have zero chance of taking the Inner Sphere or realistically any of the other surviving clans. I don't care how many sibkos they decant, they have less than zero experience against the Spheroids. And if they do try anything I fully expect the FC and others to go out to the Homeworlds and permanently resolve this problem up to and including salting the earth. And as far as the Wobbies go, the FC has an equal if not bigger stiffy for them. The battle cry of "Remember Hanse and Melissa" will reverberate. And the crap they pulled during the Fall of Sian ought to be open knowledge now. Last but not least, no one, not just the FC, has anything resembling peer to peer combat experience recently, not when the peer is the FC (which is truly an enormous, wealthy, well-populated and advanced polity). Realistically the FC is almost as large as all the others combined.

You are right on all counts Sherm, and tbh, I am still working on the course of the war. It's looking a lot like multiple troublespots erupted at once. But rest assured, it will be the same high standards achieved in Clover Spear.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

The real question is what the hell the IS Clans, comstar, and the great houses have for their warships programs compared to otl. Because in otl they where starting to launch their first ships in 3057 and for that matter the FWL and the dracs had a lot of designs being either finishing their first hulls that year or building. The fedcom had the fox and the avalon being made plus presumably the design that became the otl Mjolnir via gaining a lot of weight and the durandal under development at that time plus whatever else in terms of refits and designs would be cooked up by everyone in 20 years. Because to be blunt you throw on the AMS spam and all the sudden the apply Alamo missiles to the face method isn't nearly as reliable indeed by tabletop stats it won't work period