China Military News

[TheRejectionist]

There are increasing rumours and hearsay in the cities close to US military bases here in Italy that the next flare up is going to be over Taiwan.
Thing is, if it would have been an isolated instance I wouldn't have remembered it at all. Small issue is that I heard from friends in the same occasion, all of them living close to those bases and I don't think that is a coincidence.

As long Meloni Italy doesn't ultimately decides to reinstate the draft we should be OK, but we are pondering whether it is a IF or a WHEN...and if it is the latter...whether we get the Taiwanese coastline or the Israeli sandbox.

 

[Zachowon]

There are increasing rumours and hearsay in the cities close to US military bases here in Italy that the next flare up is going to be over Taiwan.
Thing is, if it would have been an isolated instance I wouldn't have remembered it at all. Small issue is that I heard from friends in the same occasion, all of them living close to those bases and I don't think that is a coincidence.

As long Meloni Italy doesn't ultimately decides to reinstate the draft we should be OK, but we are pondering whether it is a IF or a WHEN...and if it is the latter...whether we get the Taiwanese coastline or the Israeli sandbox.

Taiwan is critical to the entire western wordls infrastructure for one.
And all the US bases in Italy...focus on Africa not Asia or Europe

 

[Marduk]

There are increasing rumours and hearsay in the cities close to US military bases here in Italy that the next flare up is going to be over Taiwan.
Thing is, if it would have been an isolated instance I wouldn't have remembered it at all. Small issue is that I heard from friends in the same occasion, all of them living close to those bases and I don't think that is a coincidence.

As long Meloni Italy doesn't ultimately decides to reinstate the draft we should be OK, but we are pondering whether it is a IF or a WHEN...and if it is the latter...whether we get the Taiwanese coastline or the Israeli sandbox.

Why is reinstating draft such a meme in *those* circles?
Disregarding the retarded politics of it for a moment, on purely pragmatic military technical grounds, there are currently very limited benefits to throwing masses of bodies aka light infantry at a military conflict (ask Russia about its "successes" with that)- and doubly so when talking about one that by obvious geographic factors is bound to be a naval-air one.
Unless someone invents a way to move incredible masses of conscripts into mainland China despite the land, air and naval opposition on its part in what would be eclipsing the biggest amphibious landings of history by dozens of times, or Ace Combat is going to be made into reality and all the conscripts will get a jet, i think you and everyone else outside of China and Taiwan are pretty safe from a draft.

 

[Zachowon]

Why is reinstating draft such a meme in *those* circles?
Disregarding the retarded politics of it for a moment, on purely pragmatic military technical grounds, there are currently very limited benefits to throwing masses of bodies aka light infantry at a military conflict (ask Russia about its "successes" with that)- and doubly so when talking about one that by obvious geographic factors is bound to be a naval-air one.
Unless someone invents a way to move incredible masses of conscripts into mainland China despite the land, air and naval opposition on its part in what would be eclipsing the biggest amphibious landings of history by dozens of times, or Ace Combat is going to be made into reality and all the conscripts will get a jet, i think you and everyone else outside of China and Taiwan are pretty safe from a draft.

More men to clean and maintain the ships

 

[Marduk]

More men to clean and maintain the ships

Within few weeks of that going hot there will be much less ships to maintain.
It takes much longer to get the average urbanite office worker any kind of skills relevant to be more help than problem in that.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Why is reinstating draft such a meme in *those* circles?
Disregarding the retarded politics of it for a moment, on purely pragmatic military technical grounds, there are currently very limited benefits to throwing masses of bodies aka light infantry at a military conflict (ask Russia about its "successes" with that)- and doubly so when talking about one that by obvious geographic factors is bound to be a naval-air one.
Unless someone invents a way to move incredible masses of conscripts into mainland China despite the land, air and naval opposition on its part in what would be eclipsing the biggest amphibious landings of history by dozens of times, or Ace Combat is going to be made into reality and all the conscripts will get a jet, i think you and everyone else outside of China and Taiwan are pretty safe from a draft.

Marduk I am not the making the argument, but it is not a meme anymore, here at least. Whether it will be proposed more seriously at all or manage to pass through both houses of the Parliament is another different beast.
And also, I don't think whoever could potentially send us over there cares much about our safety or logistics, my best guess would be that either they sends to the West Coast of the US and then shipped to Hawaii and then to the Pacific, or they sends us in the opposite direction in Thailand,Malaysia or Indonesia, if the elites there aren't deep in the pockets of the Chicoms.

 

[Marduk]

Marduk I am not the making the argument, but it is not a meme anymore, here at least. Whether it will be proposed more seriously at all or manage to pass through both houses of the Parliament is another different beast.
And also, I don't think whoever could potentially send us over there cares much about our safety or logistics, my best guess would be that either they sends to the West Coast of the US and then shipped to Hawaii and then to the Pacific, or they sends us in the opposite direction in Thailand,Malaysia or Indonesia, if the elites there aren't deep in the pockets of the Chicoms.

Again, i don't care if you think they want or what they don't want or wherever shitty mindreading attempts anyone makes, fancies don't matter, the question is, *what* are they going to get sent from US to China on specifically?
Magic? Do you think our elites can conjure giant floating fortress ships out of sheer will and sacrifices to dark gods like the Dark Elves of Warhammer?
Do you think amphibious assault ships and marine equipment can be grown like mushrooms?
How much of that stuff do you think USA has? (hint: the answer is not as much as it should, nevermind enough for such crazy plans).
Even turning half of non-conscript US Army amphibious assault capable would be a titanic effort and something that would take immense investments and many years of time.
Then there's few dozens of other NATO armies, and that's before anyone is going to start even considering conscription in random NATO countries.
Why send more warm bodies to Malaysia, Indonesia or Thailand when these countries of all places have plenty already that don't need to be moved at all? That is assuming they would want to take part in that fight, which i'd say is unlikely.
But if they do, what's the point of sending them conscripts, in a war that's about the only thing these countries already have in quantity. They will want ammo, tanks, fuel, planes, not your stupid unwilling conscripts, they can get those locally.

"Not caring about logistics" in that context would be a recipe to intentionally lose the war, and grounds for being considered a CCP agent.

 

[LordsFire]

Within few weeks of that going hot there will be much less ships to maintain.
It takes much longer to get the average urbanite office worker any kind of skills relevant to be more help than problem in that.

To echo this, the US military-industrial complex won't be *interested* in conscripts in the event of a war for Taiwan, they'll be interested in welders, machinists, etc, and the kind of pay those jobs can earn will make conscription unnecessary.

 

[Zachowon]

To echo this, the US military-industrial complex won't be *interested* in conscripts in the event of a war for Taiwan, they'll be interested in welders, machinists, etc, and the kind of pay those jobs can earn will make conscription unnecessary.

That's the fun part, the domestic industrial base will have to sky rocket, but no one cares to think of tje pros

 

[Husky_Khan]

Hilarious if true regarding China's new Flying Boat sized Jet Powered Ground Effect Ekranoplane, the so-called 'Bohai Sea Monster.'

China Builds New Large Jet-Powered Ekranoplan - Naval News

Ekranoplans, special ultra-low flying aircraft, promise to combine features from ships, airplanes, and hovercraft. There are many designs and projects out there, but they have yet to truly realise their promise. Now the discovery of the large 4-jet 'Bohai Sea Monster' in China harks back to the...

www.navalnews.com

 

[Scottty]

Not quite military, but with implications...


Discussion?

 

[paulobrito]

More and more near Cyberpunk time...

 

[Captain X]

What happens there seems to end up happening here.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Complete and total propoganda. These are highly edited videos, and it's just for Chinese schills to reee about how amazeballs China is at everything despite sucking at pretty much everything.

 

[Doomsought]

Not quite military, but with implications...

Sing to the tune of YMCA by the Village People:

Young man, There is no need to feel doubt, I said
Young man, don't pick what you believe, I said
young man, because its new you see
you can trust the technology
Young man, There is no need to feel doubt, I said
Young man, don't pick what you believe, I said
young man, because its new you see
you can trust the technology
Why won't you believe the C G I -aye - aye
Why won't you believe the C G I -aye -aye

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Not quite military, but with implications...


Discussion?

Robots will make totalitarian regimes nigh unassailable, They will also make insurgencies obsolete because some robots getting blown up just won't have the same impact as John Smith coming home missing limbs and having to spend the rest of his life as a cripple.

 

[Captain X]

Robots will make totalitarian regimes nigh unassailable, They will also make insurgencies obsolete because some robots getting blown up just won't have the same impact as John Smith coming home missing limbs and having to spend the rest of his life as a cripple.

That's when you'd have to go after leadership somehow.