United States Anti-Semitism in the United States (and elsewhere)

Captain X

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Now we get to see if Hamas or Native American Rights/Voices matter more to the Left.

I know that answer all too well, considering how the Left, at best, tends to forget we even exist unless they can use us like a club against their enemies. I've also seen how they act when a Native doesn't have the thoughts and opinions they think we should have. :cautious: The footage we see here is a great example of that. They honestly think we would be united with them when Islam would erase the remnants of Native culture and religion. They will also constantly bring up "stolen land" and "colonists" when they themselves effectively colonize and steal land. They will invoke all of the Americas as Native land, but the second any of us takes them up on that and include them as not being welcome (or in this case get specific about them in particular not being welcome), well, they attack, verbally, physically, or both.

I kind of admire them for their courage, but part of me wishes they'd been better fighters, too.
 

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I know that answer all too well, considering how the Left, at best, tends to forget we even exist unless they can use us like a club against their enemies. I've also seen how they act when a Native doesn't have the thoughts and opinions they think we should have. :cautious: The footage we see here is a great example of that. They honestly think we would be united with them when Islam would erase the remnants of Native culture and religion. They will also constantly bring up "stolen land" and "colonists" when they themselves effectively colonize and steal land. They will invoke all of the Americas as Native land, but the second any of us takes them up on that and include them as not being welcome (or in this case get specific about them in particular not being welcome), well, they attack, verbally, physically, or both.

I kind of admire them for their courage, but part of me wishes they'd been better fighters, too.
It's also kinda funny when you think about it, the claim that all the US is on "stolen land" in effect denies the agency and sovereignty of American Indians to have either sold land to the original colonists, or to enter into treaties that ceded land and recognized borders... yes, certainly some land was stolen and conquered, but other land was bought, traded for, or ceded in much more legitimate exchanges...
 

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It's also kinda funny when you think about it, the claim that all the US is on "stolen land" in effect denies the agency and sovereignty of American Indians to have either sold land to the original colonists, or to enter into treaties that ceded land and recognized borders... yes, certainly some land was stolen and conquered, but other land was bought, traded for, or ceded in much more legitimate exchanges...
The other problem is that the American Indians were never some sort of ethnocultural collective group like the leftist narrative implies it to be...

They are divided in tribes, who each had their own land (if they were not nomadic that is, as some tribes were) and would often fight with other tribes over such claims, which combined with their obviously lacking attention to bureaucracy, courts and record keeping, creates a rather nightmarish situation regarding even trying to attribute which land would legitimately belong to who, and why would conquests of tribe A against tribe B who in turn took land from tribe C who are gone before the settlers even arrived now be more legitimate than conquests of European settlers against tribe A or B, and that could all apply to the same piece of land.
What makes the European's conquests less legitimate than Comanche's conquests or Aztec's conquests?

This cannot be argued without defaulting to some sort of "right to land" that is carried by a specific, hard to measure degree of ethnic proximity, being inside of which legitimizes even raw conquests, but being outside of which makes even treaties and sales invalid, and we know well that the very same people would throw an antiracist fit if someone went to London and said that every non-European there is living on stolen land, even those who didn't get welfare and social housing ;D.
 

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