Culture Anti-Semitism and Collective vs. Individual Guilt

King Arts

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Anyone can be a neighbor.

Including foreigners.

What is your point to these regarding brothers?
I was responding to your claim about it being prohibited to lend at interest to your family only. The text does not mean what you are trying to read into it. It’s not limited to just siblings. That passage means ALL Israelites are brothers. It was talking about a large nation not a small community so this quote of yours is wrong.

This looks more like an injunction against doing things that will cause strife within a family or community, than a blanket ban. Ensuing verses talk about eating from a neighbor's crops, but not to an exploitative level, so that fits fairly well with the overall trend.
 

LordsFire

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I was responding to your claim about it being prohibited to lend at interest to your family only. The text does not mean what you are trying to read into it. It’s not limited to just siblings. That passage means ALL Israelites are brothers. It was talking about a large nation not a small community so this quote of yours is wrong.
In my post you quoted I said 'family or community.'

I did not say 'just siblings.'

Look, are you going to admit that your position of 'usury is banned period' directly contradicts scripture?
 

ATP

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Compilation of few polish articles:

1.Polish Holy Cross brigade during WW2 fought both germans and soviets,and eventually go to Czech where they libereted Holiszów concentraction camp,saving about 300 jewish womans from being burned alive.

Soviets wanted to kill them,so accused them of being antisemites - but,former prisoners in Touluse in 1950 /France/ told truth about being saved by them.
here:
They killed commies,and some of them were jews.that is all.

What is important - for soviets fighting them were antisemitism.

2.German newspapers usually show Poland as hiding place of antisemites,but lately Frankfurter Allgemaine Zeitung/FAZ/ show Poland as country where jews are defended most in entire Europe.Which is not true - nobody attack them,so they do not need help.
Jew from polish city Cracow,Jonathan Ornstein,claim that jews from Ukraine and western Europe would come to Poland.

Strange.It seems,that germans plan to send their jews to Poland...but they plan to do the same with muslims,and then jews would be attacked.

3.In serial "Holocaust"/1978/ we have good germans - but all poles were antysemite monsters.When they show uprising in warsaw getto,it was destroyed by polish units without germans/bullshit - there were no polish units in german army,and one in police - on Ukraine/
in 'Sophie Choice" movie poles are not only monsters,but they inventet Holocaust/bullshit,again/

4.Old french historian,Anatol Leroy-Bealieu /1842-1912/ who wrote about jewish migrants to USA stated fact,that considering where most jews lived people could think,that jews come from Mazovia/part of Poland/

5.During WW2 Emila Dembska with unknown polish woman hide 11 jews in her home ,till germans discovered her and killed with all except 3 jews/Karpl family/ who before hide elsywhere.

6.Ukrainian pederast Igor Isajew living in Poland and supporting jews claim that we poles are both antiukrainian antisemites.Becouse we remember both about ukrainian genociding poles,and some jews helping commies.

7.Polish patriot,late Jan Kobylański,claimed that polish Foreign Ministry support Izrael instead of Poland/which was mostly truth/ - and our leftist Sikorski named him as antisemite for that.

8.poor jew Abram Tauber from Chodło was saved during WW2 by polish partisants from germans,after WW2 served in soviet secret police murdering them,in 1956 go to USA as Abe Tauber,and thanks to gold stealed in Poland become rich.
Later he demanded from Poland temenent house in Chodło,which he never had - becouse he was poor,and there was no such houses there anyway.

9.Jewish organizations get from Switzerland 1,25 billion,when there was only 31 millions on jewish dead accounts.

10.Jewish writer Isaac Singer is antisemite now - becouse he wrote about jews showing how they really lived - that they were poor,and some engaged in porn.

11.During WW2 american jews from USA do not helped jews in Poland - becouse ,according to Izaak Grenbaum, one cow in Palestine was more important then all polish jews combined.
 

ATP

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Interesting story - where antisemitism was used to save marriage.
Polish jew,Krzysztof Gruszczyński,made many poems and even movies about how great commies are,till 1968 - when his waifu made him leave poland using his jewish heritage as pretext.
Why? he get much money,but use it for fun,and welcomed friends to home where they drink heavily.

So,she suggested that if they live,he could become world writer.He belived that,they go to Denmark/not even tried for Izrael/ where his waifu worked for him just like in Poland - but,becouse he do not have money/he wrote almost notching there/ he could not drink entire days with friends.
Died in 1992 on cancer.

Fun thing is - if he wanted to stay,he would live in commie Poland like King getting much money for some commie poems and movies.But,his marriage probably would not survived it,so....
 

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