What If? All the Goblins from Goblin Slayer were replaced by Uruk-Hai from the Legendarium?

[Shipmaster Sane]

I honestly don’t get what it is with all the Fantasy LN’s love for “Adventurer’s Guilds” over guys just going off and traveling the road and stumbling by quests
Same for why they make almost all their superheroes into corporate sponsored dudes doing commercials and maybe even being registered with the government
And yeah, it’s something I’ve pointed out with a bunch or edgelords regarding GS
“Fighting Dirty” is NOT enough and you will regret having not become a better swordsman or getting beefed up and getting better equipment, the moment you deal with someone BOTH skilled and strong
He actually gets his shit beaten out of him and has trouble with anything higher than angry green midgets
Guy is more “hit and run” than anything else when it comes to melee. Yeah, it’s relatively simple, but wait until you get the shit beaten out of you by the Devil’s Lance who doesn’t even bother predicting your movements
And wait till someone starts doing feints or coming at you really fast and making you wonder where's the next hit coming from

GS is one of a thousand edgelord fantasies where what the writer thinks is edgy "dirty fighting" "realistic" "Pragmatic" etc etc etc is really either not as effective as he thinks it is or stuff that everyone has been doing since the dawn of time. GS would be nothing unusual in DnD, because 99% of adventurers are paranoid hard asses that tactically analyze every situation.

In GS, GS is the one competant man in a world of retards. In DnD or any realistic setting, he's just everyone else but short.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

GS is one of a thousand edgelord fantasies where what the writer thinks is edgy "dirty fighting" "realistic" "Pragmatic" etc etc etc is really either not as effective as he thinks it is or stuff that everyone has been doing since the dawn of time. GS would be nothing unusual in DnD, because 99% of adventurers are paranoid hard asses that tactically analyze every situation.

In GS, GS is the one competant man in a world of retards. In DnD or any realistic setting, he's just everyone else but short.

Are they all “multiclass” or “jack-of-all-trades” types?

GS’ skillset seems like a Robert E. Howard protagonist, except I’m pretty sure every one of them, including that one FAT & Alcoholic Knight who kept on going into battle to avoid his Lord punishing him, would beat him in an actual fight and would fight dirty too

 

[LifeisTiresome]

@CarlManvers2019
@Shipmaster Sane

A lot of fantasy, not all but a lot don't really portray the Medieval era accurately. This is not a Goblin Slayer issue and more fantasy issue in general. Hell, look at Game of Thrones. On SB, they talk about how Peasants were important for harvesting and all that but in Game of Thrones, trying to protect the peasants who do all the work of harvesting and shit is treated as bad.

Never mind, that Game of Thrones has so many, many failures of accuracy despite all of its fans saying that its realistic.

As for GS himself? Nothing special, he is not someone who can beat up the powerful guys in his series IIRC. Infact, saving the world was not done by him and done by someone else and they could crush GS with their pinky finger if they wanted to I would believe.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

@CarlManvers2019
@Shipmaster Sane

A lot of fantasy, not all but a lot don't really portray the Medieval era accurately. This is not a Goblin Slayer issue and more fantasy issue in general. Hell, look at Game of Thrones. On SB, they talk about how Peasants were important for harvesting and all that but in Game of Thrones, trying to protect the peasants who do all the work of harvesting and shit is treated as bad.

Never mind, that Game of Thrones has so many, many failures of accuracy despite all of its fans saying that its realistic.

As for GS himself? Nothing special, he is not someone who can beat up the powerful guys in his series IIRC. Infact, saving the world was not done by him and done by someone else and they could crush GS with their pinky finger if they wanted to I would believe.

Yeah, still recall the Lords talking shit about Edmure’s surprising level of actual nobility and caring for his subjects

I think all those Lords think they can easily live with the majority of their Smallfolk dead, crippled, broke and/or traumatized and STILL expect to be able to fight another war and have the tax money to do it

A point sort of constantly made in-universe, hell the lack or Serial Escalation in the LN, specifically the lack of Hobs and Champions and Lords or new “classes” makes me think he really won’t be do anything special or dealing with anything big or significant for the majority of the series

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Yeah, still recall the Lords talking shit about Edmure’s surprising level of actual nobility and caring for his subjects

I think all those Lords think they can easily live with the majority of their Smallfolk dead, crippled, broke and/or traumatized and STILL expect to be able to fight another war and have the tax money to do it

The land will just farm itself somehow *shrugs*

Lol

A point sort of constantly made in-universe, hell the lack or Serial Escalation in the LN, specifically the lack of Hobs and Champions and Lords or new “classes” makes me think he really won’t be do anything special or dealing with anything big or significant for the majority of the series

The whole point of GS is following this guy as he deals with creatures that don't threaten the world and can't threaten armies but are a threat to the common people out in the frontier.

Its small scale. Its deliberate about this. It basically ignored the whole saving the world shit.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

The land will just farm itself somehow *shrugs*

Lol


The whole point of GS is following this guy as he deals with creatures that don't threaten the world and can't threaten armies but are a threat to the common people out in the frontier.

Its small scale. Its deliberate about this. It basically ignored the whole saving the world shit.

Yeah, I feel in the recent translated volume, if the Merchant’s son didn’t hire him to defend against the Goblins who were angry about their bosses telling em things were broken, he’d have joined in on that thing with the demons coming out of portals

Guy spent part of the volume investigating what was going on with some Merchant spreading lies, not seeing any Goblins for awhile, saying he wasn’t suited for normal adventures

And the rest solved itself, on the “main quest” as all
him and his party did was report a mound full of undead that later turned out to be part of some
big plot that he only played a really small part in preventing

I don’t think the Edgelords actually get that, alongside the guys wanking him

Saw a fic where he was easily killing an Ork WAAAGH in Warhammer Fantasy in-spite of the size difference

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Are they all “multiclass” or “jack-of-all-trades” types?

No, people always forget that class in DnD doesnt mean you always have to act like a stereotype of your class. Take Krusk, for example: He's the "Iconic Barbarian" of 3.5, yet when he appears in a novel his go-to strategy is complicated, convoluted Rambo shit with traps and bows and arrows etc, only resorting to his supernatural rage power and melee skills when absolutely necessary, despite the fact that these are his primary strengths. Your class is not some restrictive caste system or AI program that locks you into only ever handling any situation one way, it just broadly describes the things you're particularly, supernaturally good at.


GS himself could be represented by either a Rogue or Fighter (or multiclass Rogue Fighter) anywhere from level 1 to level 4.

The whole point of GS is following this guy as he deals with creatures that don't threaten the world and can't threaten armies but are a threat to the common people out in the frontier.

Its small scale. Its deliberate about this. It basically ignored the whole saving the world shit.

"Local man wanders through unclaimed valuable countryside where everyone hates their wives and children, frustrating their constant attempts to get them killed"


Honestly the best explanation for the world in GS is if a large number of the common men of this land are actively supporting the Goblins in the hopes that their wives and annoying naruto children are killed.

 

[ATP]

Uruks in book were not supersoldiers,but superorks.That is why 80 uruks could scatter more then 100 mordor orcs.Against human soldiers they still die - for example,Eomer killed 80 +x uruks and 100 normal orks loosing 15 soldiers./x becouse we do not knew how many uruks was in unit attacking from forest/

But goblins from GS are weaker then mordor orcs,and they still are big problem.If people could not deal with them,they would not copy with uruks,too.
P.S Even advanced adverturers were relatively weak - for example,when goblins swarmed HEA she killed one with knife and was easily overwhelmed and almost raped.Pitiful,for 2000 years old warrior.

 

[Guncannon]

In GS, GS is the one competant man in a world of retards. In DnD or any realistic setting, he's just everyone else but short.

Is Goblin Slayer that short? I feel like it's more he's often surrounded by taller characters like Lizard Priest.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Is Goblin Slayer that short? I feel like it's more he's often surrounded by taller characters like Lizard Priest.

5 foot six might make you tall in Japan, but you're WELL under the Manlet threshold.

Especially in DnD where humans are ordinarily even taller.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

"Local man wanders through unclaimed valuable countryside where everyone hates their wives and children, frustrating their constant attempts to get them killed"


Honestly the best explanation for the world in GS is if a large number of the common men of this land are actively supporting the Goblins in the hopes that their wives and annoying naruto children are killed.

Lol. I get your point man. But as I said, its a problem plaguing other fantasy series. Its just what it is.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Lol. I get your point man. But as I said, its a problem plaguing other fantasy series. Its just what it is.

Stupid shit being common doesn't make it better, if anything it makes it worse.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Stupid shit being common doesn't make it better, if anything it makes it worse.

Sometimes you gotta give up on logic

I went through The Black Moon Chronicles and all I can wonder is how the hell do they have the bureaucracy and supplies for all those armies and how the hell can everything be fine enough for another immensely insane war in just a few hours or days

And how hasn't all those casualties made a big dent in everything?

How can such extreme sacking even NOT make trouble?

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Sometimes you gotta give up on logic

Literal degeneracy.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Literal degeneracy.

It's how I stopped making an issue over how the Joker still hasn't received the death penalty

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

It's how I stopped making an issue over how the Joker still hasn't received the death penalty

The solution to being served garbage at a restaurant is not to lose your sense of taste.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

The solution to being served garbage at a restaurant is not to lose your sense of taste.

Hey I like the food my dad kept calling garbage before forcing us to leave for something fancier