Versus Match A Proteus Kill-Team gets sent to the Island(Claymore)

[Agent23]

You know the drill, ROB saw Claymore and decided to have some fun.
So, he decides to send Proteus Kill-Team
to help out the rogue-ish Claymores that met during the Paburo hunting party incident
the goal is the complete and total annihilation of all Yoma, out of control Awakened Beings, the Abyssals and the Organization responsible for the whole mess.

Scenario 2) The marines have no support from the rogue Claymores and must exterminate all the Mutants, Demons and Heretics.

Fight!

 

[Scooby Doo]

I think they would be good upper mid tiers but drop down to low tiers once their ammo runs out and their armor gets worn out from attrition.


They don't help much against high tiers other than being a speed bump and are frankly wasted if sent against them.

 

[ATP]

You know the drill, ROB saw Claymore and decided to have some fun.
So, he decides to send Proteus Kill-Team
to help out the rogue-ish Claymores that met during the Paburo hunting party incident
the goal is the complete and total annihilation of all Yoma, out of control Awakened Beings, the Abyssals and the Organization responsible for the whole mess.

Scenario 2) The marines have no support from the rogue Claymores and must exterminate all the Mutants, Demons and Heretics.

Fight!

Yoma,average awakened,Organization - OK.
Awakened beings,even weaker then Priscilla,would eat them alive.

Best case - Claymores gave them plan of Organization building and where their HQ is,marines go during night and kill them silently.
After that,they still need nukes to kill Awakened.Impossible in Priscilla case,unless you burn half of Island.

 

[Agent23]

Yoma,average awakened,Organization - OK.
Awakened beings,even weaker then Priscilla,would eat them alive.

Best case - Claymores gave them plan of Organization building and where their HQ is,marines go during night and kill them silently.
After that,they still need nukes to kill Awakened.Impossible in Priscilla case,unless you burn half of Island.

Plasma weapons and promerhrum flamers are good for such tasks.

They would also have missiles and any other gear that a Proteus team can equip, which includes terminators and hoverbikes.

Do not forget that Kill-Teams exist specifically with the purpose of taking out the most powerful of xenos leaders and turn the tides of things like Waaghs and the like.

But even if they are not able to take her out on their own don't forget they are going in as support for some of the Claymores.

 

[ATP]

Plasma weapons and promerhrum flamers are good for such tasks.

They would also have missiles and any other gear that a Proteus team can equip, which includes terminators and hoverbikes.

Do not forget that Kill-Teams exist specifically with the purpose of taking out the most powerful of xenos leaders and turn the tides of things like Waaghs and the like.

But even if they are not able to take her out on their own don't forget they are going in as support for some of the Claymores.

None of Claymores except Theresa was capable of fighting Priscilla - and she was dead.

 

[Agent23]

None of Claymores except Theresa was capable of fighting Priscilla - and she was dead.

I have only seen the anime, but Claire did a pretty decent job of it.

 

[ATP]

I have only seen the anime, but Claire did a pretty decent job of it.

Becouse Theresa awakened inside her,that is why she could kill Priscilla in manga.
Without that,all send to fight Priscilla would die.

 

[Agent23]

Becouse Theresa awakened inside her,that is why she could kill Priscilla in manga.
Without that,all send to fight Priscilla would die.

Imperium tech is a lot more resilient and tough than the medieval swords and armor we see in Claymore and we know that bolters are basically an automatic rocket launcher, and the weakest infantry weapon in 40k is at least as powerful as a 12mm anti-material rifle.

Terminators can literally survive inside a running thermonuclear reactor .
I think you are underestimating the marines.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Imperium tech is a lot more resilient and tough than the medieval swords and armor we see in Claymore and we know that bolters are basically an automatic rocket launcher, and the weakest infantry weapon in 40k is at least as powerful as a 12mm anti-material rifle.

Terminators can literally survive inside a running thermonuclear reactor .
I think you are underestimating the marines.

It's more like Speed Difference, their claymores aren't made out of regular steel no such conventional material could survive the speeds they go at.

The problem with the high tiers is they can easily dodge anything fired at them before taking into consideration they're closer to Custodes in reflexes than Spacemarines.


Then take into consideration because of their size they can easily regenerate damage while every shell and missile fired is one that they can't replenish for the years it would to manufacture from a medieval tech base.

 

[Agent23]

It's more like Speed Difference, their claymores aren't made out of regular steel no such conventional material could survive the speeds they go at.

The problem with the high tiers is they can easily dodge anything fired at them before taking into consideration they're closer to Custodes in reflexes than Spacemarines.


Then take into consideration because of their size they can easily regenerate damage while every shell and missile fired is one that they can't replenish for the years it would to manufacture from a medieval tech base.

I don't think the Claymores were faster than bullets or missiles and plasma bolts, they could dodge sword strikes and projectiles, but that was a function of that weird energy field they used in some cases.

 

[Scooby Doo]

I don't think the Claymores were faster than bullets or missiles and plasma bolts, they could dodge sword strikes and projectiles, but that was a function of that weird energy field they used in some cases.

It's not a weird energy field, they're literally speed demons that have bullshit inner chi demon equivalent.




They're literally so fast they can swing hundreds of times while maintaining a conversation and look like they aren't even moving because of how fast they're going.

Spacemarines would literally shit themselves to death seeing that type of speed.

 

[Agent23]

It's not a weird energy field, they're literally speed demons that have bullshit inner chi demon equivalent.




They're literally so fast they can swing hundreds of times while maintaining a conversation and look like they aren't even moving because of how fast they're going.

Spacemarines would literally shit themselves to death seeing that type of speed.

Yeah, and at least once it was mentioned that they could sense that chi to dodge attacks, IIRC it was a big part of the series, also Thresa was a very special case, both she and the total nutjob with the horns and the wings had their limits, IMHO.

So, how far up the chain can they get?

The Blue Lion Furry?

 

[Bear Ribs]

Claymore speed indeed gets ludicrous fast. Calculations for Riful's speed in an overland dash go from Mach 3075 at the high end to around Mach 500 for what's generally considered mid-range to Mach 9.5 at the very lowest possible. Claymore numbers in debate tend to get so over-the-top that most people quietly ignore them and just presume that they're fast enough to accomplish whatever they want.

I don't think the Claymores were faster than bullets or missiles and plasma bolts, they could dodge sword strikes and projectiles, but that was a function of that weird energy field they used in some cases.

Claymores have some absolutely ludicrous speed feats. Elegant Hysteria was moving somewhere between 64,000 and 640,000 meters a second but she's a hyperspecialized speed build. Slower beings like Miria (same link) tend to come it at around a third of that. Clare using Quicksword is able to cut through a river 40 times before the first cut has sealed up (calced as requiring her to perform 2500 slashes per second)

Note that this is a low-end feat, Clare was still considered one of the slowest and weakest Claymores when she performs this Quicksword to defend against Ophelia trying to eat her.

Basically, Claymore speed feats are pretty much "Sufficient Velocity," as debaters have repeatedly noticed, if you try to actually figure out their speeds using any rational yardstick, they're moving so fast nobody can take the resulting figures seriously. The manga routinely has Claymores and Awakened begins pulling off tricks like jumping from one part of the continent to another (or at the very least, traveling across major cities into the countrysides) faster than a normal human can turn their head to react to it. Nothing short of a Culture Mind can process fast enough to keep up with them.

This gets even more ridiculous when one considers that Claymore base humans are significantly tougher and faster than real world base humans with some pretty crazy feats of their own, like roofjumping in full plate.

 

[Agent23]

Claymore speed indeed gets ludicrous fast. Calculations for Riful's speed in an overland dash go from Mach 3075 at the high end to around Mach 500 for what's generally considered mid-range to Mach 9.5 at the very lowest possible. Claymore numbers in debate tend to get so over-the-top that most people quietly ignore them and just presume that they're fast enough to accomplish whatever they want.


Claymores have some absolutely ludicrous speed feats. Elegant Hysteria was moving somewhere between 64,000 and 640,000 meters a second but she's a hyperspecialized speed build. Slower beings like Miria (same link) tend to come it at around a third of that. Clare using Quicksword is able to cut through a river 40 times before the first cut has sealed up (calced as requiring her to perform 2500 slashes per second)

Note that this is a low-end feat, Clare was still considered one of the slowest and weakest Claymores when she performs this Quicksword to defend against Ophelia trying to eat her.

Basically, Claymore speed feats are pretty much "Sufficient Velocity," as debaters have repeatedly noticed, if you try to actually figure out their speeds using any rational yardstick, they're moving so fast nobody can take the resulting figures seriously. The manga routinely has Claymores and Awakened begins pulling off tricks like jumping from one part of the continent to another (or at the very least, traveling across major cities into the countrysides) faster than a normal human can turn their head to react to it. Nothing short of a Culture Mind can process fast enough to keep up with them.

This gets even more ridiculous when one considers that Claymore base humans are significantly tougher and faster than real world base humans with some pretty crazy feats of their own, like roofjumping in full plate.

I've only seen the anime.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Yeah, and at least once it was mentioned that they could sense that chi to dodge attacks, IIRC it was a big part of the series,

Irc it was only limited to two characters in the series, the Protagonist and Teresa which is why they were top dog but the other speed feats by other characters was just pure speed.

also Thresa was a very special case, both she and the total nutjob with the horns and the wings had their limits, IMHO.

Their limits were rather ludicrous, Teresa canonically only died due to holding back too much against a stupidly amped demon/claymore.

So, how far up the chain can they get?

The Blue Lion Furry?

With full kit they stop anyone near Irene's level
With out ammo and damaged armor probably some random middle strength abyssal claps them.

 

[Bear Ribs]

I've only seen the anime.

The manga has at least two Claymores who can sense every Yoma within a radius well over 1000 Kilometers, and both Claymores and Awakened Beings who can move from outside that range to engaging said Claymore in melee faster than a base human can react, literally in mid-sentence.

 

[Agent23]

The manga has at least two Claymores who can sense every Yoma within a radius well over 1000 Kilometers, and both Claymores and Awakened Beings who can move from outside that range to engaging said Claymore in melee faster than a base human can react, literally in mid-sentence.

Yeah, I am tempted to make this Anime Only.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Yeah, I am tempted to make this Anime Only.

Even anime only is still attacking thousands of times a sec while appearing stationary is much faster than conventional space Marines, Spacemarines can maybe swing a handful of times faster than a human can process what happened but that's like basic Yomai speed.


They're solid average with their ranged weapons and explosives, but once they run out of ammo they're going to be slow for Abyssals.

Abyssal Rigardo for example would treat them the way a Great Daemon would treat a one armed Guardsman.

 

[Agent23]

I think the marines won't need to resort to swinging, just shooting and grenades.

Melta bombs and krak missiles/grenades should be a very nasty surprise for most of their opponents.

So, how far up the chain can the Marines go before they are at their limit?

 

[Scooby Doo]

I think the marines won't need to resort to swinging, just shooting and grenades.

Melta bombs and krak missiles/grenades should be a very nasty surprise for most of their opponents.

So, how far up the chain can the Marines go before they are at their limit?

Depends how are they being organized? They'll easily slaughter basic Yoma for years but might last minutes to seconds against any Abyssal.